College should only be STEM, anything else is a vanity degree. If you want some liberal arts shit it should be exempt from student loans and cash only.
As an engineer who had only 3 electives, we need people who get classically educated. We need to not lose the ancient history, architecture, music that our founding fathers were exposed to and which gave them the knowledge needed to write the founding documents which educated the rest of the country with what they knew.
I didn’t say I expected it come from current-day institutions, outside of maybe Hillsdale. But we need that type of education in addition to STEM. Self-taught, free online? Just somehow.
Im an engineer also but I got a minor in history. Ive taken a few of Hillsdale Colleges free online courses and recommend them highly. Ive even paid for a couple. My favorite was Mathematics and Logic: From Euclid to Modern Geometry. The courses on the Constitution are invaluable.
I too believe a classical education is important. I think it should start in grade school. Our entire education system need to be reworked. I do see ZerroDefex point though too. We shouldnt be giving degrees concentrating in say Womens Studies, but that type course work should be worked into a larger framework of classical study.
The biggest problem with our education system is we dont teach kids how to think properly. A classical education teaches these things. Thats why I loved the Mathematics and Logic class. Geometry teaches you how to think logically.
As an aside you can purchase Pocket Constitutions in bulk from Hillsdale. I leave stacks at the desk in the local Libraries and donate them to HS and middle school history and government classes. Ive been known to leave a small stack next to the guest book at weddings and funerals too. I put them in with graduation and birthday cards. Kinda annoys my wife sometimes but Ive always though its valuable if I can get through to even one person.
Business degrees (real ones, not economics) decades ago were useful. I was in HR before companies just plopped anyone with a pulse in the HR Dept. We learned useful things to keep a workforce humming along and helped companies avoid lawsuits. I'm one of those HR dinosaurs that walked the plant floor twice a day (between grave and day shifts then between day and swing shifts.) I answered questions and if someone needed a form, I'd bring it to them. And I was humble enough to admit that I was pure overhead and that the production workers made the money that paid my salary. HR needs to get back to that.
I think they're whitewashing over the fact that most colleges and universities are more interested in practicing DEI/CRT/SEL, and prospective students know this now, and are less inclined to attend such centers of "higher learning." And once Gen Alpha starts coming of age, that issue will deepen the financial issues these institutions are facing. From what I've seen, Gen Alpha may as well be Gen X Light, with the exception that these kids are damn near full aware of the bullshit happening in their schools and aren't falling for it like Gen X and the Millennials and Gen Z did. That pendulum is starting to swing back the other way.
My daughter is very smart, both mentally and emotionally, and doesn't even want to attend any traditional school. She's been homeschooled now, starting her fourth year of it, is so far ahead of her age/peer group scholastically and emotionally, that she understands she doesn't even need a trade school if she's willing to self educate, which she is doing at a very high level now. She wants to be an artist of some type, so has been taking lessons (on her own) to teach herself how to digitally draw and animate. Her goal is to be an animator making her own stories, and she's already working on a project that should go online in a few months. Not gonna say what the project is, but if it's successful, she'll quickly be making the type of money that will set herself up for a very good living. (She's stated that her goal is to make enough money that I won't have to work anymore. As a single father, she's seen and lived thru the struggles and wants to make our lives easier.) And she isn't even 14 yet! I will say though, that this project she has isn't like the mindless drivel we see today in the animated arts. This one is educational in nature...the type of education we don't see in our schools (wink-wink).
Keep the idiots out of trade schools, they will just be a cancer for blue collar kids that want to learn and go to work. Let the the woke take underwater basket weaving to keep them away from the future trades workforce.
Hopefully it mean less people with expensive worthless degrees. If your going to go at least study something economical useful.
College should only be STEM, anything else is a vanity degree. If you want some liberal arts shit it should be exempt from student loans and cash only.
As an engineer who had only 3 electives, we need people who get classically educated. We need to not lose the ancient history, architecture, music that our founding fathers were exposed to and which gave them the knowledge needed to write the founding documents which educated the rest of the country with what they knew.
It seems like you’re under the impression that Universities still offer classical education. The courses and curriculum you speak of no longer exist.
I didn’t say I expected it come from current-day institutions, outside of maybe Hillsdale. But we need that type of education in addition to STEM. Self-taught, free online? Just somehow.
Im an engineer also but I got a minor in history. Ive taken a few of Hillsdale Colleges free online courses and recommend them highly. Ive even paid for a couple. My favorite was Mathematics and Logic: From Euclid to Modern Geometry. The courses on the Constitution are invaluable.
I too believe a classical education is important. I think it should start in grade school. Our entire education system need to be reworked. I do see ZerroDefex point though too. We shouldnt be giving degrees concentrating in say Womens Studies, but that type course work should be worked into a larger framework of classical study.
The biggest problem with our education system is we dont teach kids how to think properly. A classical education teaches these things. Thats why I loved the Mathematics and Logic class. Geometry teaches you how to think logically.
As an aside you can purchase Pocket Constitutions in bulk from Hillsdale. I leave stacks at the desk in the local Libraries and donate them to HS and middle school history and government classes. Ive been known to leave a small stack next to the guest book at weddings and funerals too. I put them in with graduation and birthday cards. Kinda annoys my wife sometimes but Ive always though its valuable if I can get through to even one person.
Business degrees (real ones, not economics) decades ago were useful. I was in HR before companies just plopped anyone with a pulse in the HR Dept. We learned useful things to keep a workforce humming along and helped companies avoid lawsuits. I'm one of those HR dinosaurs that walked the plant floor twice a day (between grave and day shifts then between day and swing shifts.) I answered questions and if someone needed a form, I'd bring it to them. And I was humble enough to admit that I was pure overhead and that the production workers made the money that paid my salary. HR needs to get back to that.
I think they're whitewashing over the fact that most colleges and universities are more interested in practicing DEI/CRT/SEL, and prospective students know this now, and are less inclined to attend such centers of "higher learning." And once Gen Alpha starts coming of age, that issue will deepen the financial issues these institutions are facing. From what I've seen, Gen Alpha may as well be Gen X Light, with the exception that these kids are damn near full aware of the bullshit happening in their schools and aren't falling for it like Gen X and the Millennials and Gen Z did. That pendulum is starting to swing back the other way.
My daughter is very smart, both mentally and emotionally, and doesn't even want to attend any traditional school. She's been homeschooled now, starting her fourth year of it, is so far ahead of her age/peer group scholastically and emotionally, that she understands she doesn't even need a trade school if she's willing to self educate, which she is doing at a very high level now. She wants to be an artist of some type, so has been taking lessons (on her own) to teach herself how to digitally draw and animate. Her goal is to be an animator making her own stories, and she's already working on a project that should go online in a few months. Not gonna say what the project is, but if it's successful, she'll quickly be making the type of money that will set herself up for a very good living. (She's stated that her goal is to make enough money that I won't have to work anymore. As a single father, she's seen and lived thru the struggles and wants to make our lives easier.) And she isn't even 14 yet! I will say though, that this project she has isn't like the mindless drivel we see today in the animated arts. This one is educational in nature...the type of education we don't see in our schools (wink-wink).
Keep the idiots out of trade schools, they will just be a cancer for blue collar kids that want to learn and go to work. Let the the woke take underwater basket weaving to keep them away from the future trades workforce.
Don’t want college debt, don’t get a useless degree.
The Majors they cut are the ones that require the students to memorize, “would you like to supersize that?”.
ROOKIE NUMBERS!!! KEEP GOING!!!
What’s the problem? Daaaa, $250,000 for a degree in basket weaving and you’re unemployed, with no hope of being a Barista
Water does flow uphill in some extreme cases, but you need a major jolt in order to do that.
They'll have to rename trade school course titles, thusly:
-Doctor of Plumbing
-Electrical Attorney
-Automotive Nursing