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Our ancestors weren't idiots. There were good reasons for that behavior being socially suppressed and discouraged. We see those reasons now.
Except it wasn't, for the vast majority of history. You're extrapolating the Victorian era to be your "ancestors."
I'm not defending bad behavior, but by your logic "hating the sin" is the same as forcing people to lie.
Is it a lie for a pedo to not attack a child? or is it them resisting an evil urge?
As I clearly stated, I'm not defending bad behavior. I'm talking about your average gay person who wants to life a quiet life and be left alone. The idea of "closeting" that person is equivalent to forcing them to lie.
I'm gay, and pedos make me sick too. Totally on board with that. But there's no equivalence to the gay population in general.
If the average gay person wants a quiet life and to be left alone then quit shoving the shit in our faces.. I don't care if you're gay, I really don't have an issue with it.. but we don't need the parades of degeneracy, debauchery and sexualization of EVERYTHING.
You give these fucks an inch and they take a mile. That's why you suppress that. Hence, the closet.
The average gay person does exactly that. It's the activists who are a problem. I agree that the parades you mention are inappropriate since about 2010.
The activists jumped the shark since then. They're an embarrassment.
Maybe they might consider repentance rather than lying?
I said the same thing too just now lol. It seems like this guy is against personal accountability.
You do not know me at all. I have been dealing with this stuff for a quarter century, most of that voluntarily celibate as I pleaded with God for help, a miracle, something. 20 years of trying to pray the Gay away, and walking the line to the best of my ability. I fully and comprehensively explored the path that you are advocating.
I got the help, when I was ready for it, but it took the form of realizing that I'm accountable only to God and that He doesn't care that I'm gay; it's merely part of the experience I was ordained to receive in this life. He cares that I am grateful to Him and kind to my fellowman, and that's about it.
I suggest boning up on those parts of the Bible that talk about unrighteous judgements.
I don't understand the lack of reading comprehension. Did I not explicitly state that I'm not defending bad behavior? I am accountable to God. I am not accountable to you.
Having spent 20 years of my life attempting to "repent," I can assure you that's not how it works. The attempt did help me build a relationship with God, though, until such time as it sunk in that He accepts me based on my heart, not based on the arbitrary standards of man.
But thanks for the advice.
Edit: BTW, you're going to want to say that it's not the standards of man, it's the standards of God, because the Bible says so. I advise against that, I know more about it than you do. Unless you really want to be educated as to how exactly the Bible, when understood without the lens of tradition or dogma, says nothing in condemnation of homosexuality. I've had that argument so many times I can copypasta it.
Umm Leviticus 20:13?
Ah, the Law of Moses! I assume you obey it? Better put down the shellfish, and don't forget to plan around the prescribed monthly purification when you or your wife has her period. Once of you is gonna have to watch the kids.
You don't get to pick and choose. Either the entire Law of Moses applies or none of it does. Christian doctrine is that the Law of Moses was done away in Christ. Who, by the way, is not recorded as saying a single syllable on the topic. Seems like a pretty big oversight since He supposedly cares about it so much.
Can we deconstruct your statement? If an average gay person wants to live a quiet life and be left alone, then how would you hear about it? I don't know how many gay people you know, but I know hundreds. Only a handful were so insecure as to be activists. But those are the ones that YOU are likely to see.
Gays don't have to reproduce. It's an epigenetic expression during fetal development. Gays are born and always will be. We can unpack that if you'd like.
There are definitely problems in the gay community. I'd hazard the theory that we'd see a lot less of those problems if gays didn't feel the pressure to repress themselves. Repressed sexuality regularly leads to an eventual explosion of bad behavior.
Well since gays were tolerated in every empire of antiquity, that isn't a particularly compelling argument. You may as well argue that eating grain causes empires to collapse. Tell me, which empires were intolerant of gays and survived?
Do you really think that societal-ending hedonism is limited to gays? I'd suggest poking your head into the world if so. It's not gay people who are jumping into DNC abortion vans or becoming single mothers.
yes there is an equivalence both actions are detestable and dont build a society both should be controlled by the individual
Thanks for your opinion, now kindly fuck off.
Objectively true, and it seems your actual original disagreement. Be careful not to let emotion and physical desire cloud your judgement, it never ends well.
This is like the cocky teenager trying to tell the math teacher how to solve a math problem.
No, that means to stop doing the sin. They wouldn't have to be in the closet if they were being moral in their actions. They deserve the closet if they're going to do wrong against themselves, others and the Lord.
Great idea!
I think what needs to go back in the closet is all the trannies, pronouns, drag queens, flags, media celebration, books, lifestyle promotion, and gay sex talk. Keep the sex life private and certainly away from anyone under 18. The pedophiles can come out into the open however so we can deal with that. If someone is gay i shouldn't know about it from a mile away. Gay people are everywhere and that's fine. I think the reason for the resentment is the past 16 years of it being thrown in our faces so there is naturally going to be push back with all of it.
Yeah, the propaganda has radicalized me. I used to be pretty chill about it when people kinda kept it to themselves and didn't let it become their personality. Now when I'm around it I have a very difficult time hiding my distaste with their lifestyle. The fact they are glorifying a literal sin (pride) is disgusting.
That's how I feel. It's none of my business, i don't want to know and certainly don't care. The fact that its shoved in our face and especially the children really pisses me off.
yes keep the closet dwellers in their place....freaks
lol yes
A penis does not belong in any anus. That is all, carry on.
Sniff.
Bad behavior is one thing, but what you're saying is you'd rather live around liars than people with whom you disagree. That's pretty fragile.
No. People need to be accountable and change their ways, not hide them. Stop sinning against God and your true nature, and accept reality for what it is.
lol You think you know what you're talking about, but you don't. And you won't listen to little ol' me if I try to explain.
You don't know Trump. He likes GAYS. His Mentor was Roy Cohn = GAY
TGP The Gateway Pundint owner Jim Hoft=GAY
Richard_Grenell---- Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) under President Donald Trump = GAY
Milo Yiannopoulos worked for Breitbart from 2014 to 2017 = GAY
Peter Thiel, the one JD Vance is trying to get on-board = GAY
David Rubin, host of The Rubin Report = GAY
There is a list a mile long of these people on the RIGHT WING who are GAY.....see what they are really after now?
Are you sure you understand yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAOcfy5J2qw
This website is called The Great Awakening. God-based. Trump is not God. He is human and flawed. But he is who a lot of us want to lead our nest interests for this country. If someone is helping accomplish what us American people believe is right, it is really none of our business who's plugging whose holes. They know what they are about, and they know what the right way is. We can love our neighbors and by default, not accept their bullshit. It's more loving to hate the evil within someone, than to accept it and act like it's ok. I don't think Trump is worried about who is gay and who isn't. He wants people to do what's right. And he picks people he believes work for the agenda that he seeks.