Bc usury is wrong and evil. It doesn't matter what man permits. The God of heaven n earth forbids it.
My government takes loans. My insurance goes up bc other ppl take loans out on cars they can't afford. Usury effects almost every aspect of our culture.
And once again, it's only one group of ppl were discussing that are the prime benefactors of usury. Same group. Every time.
I was once like you; A jew apologist.
Porn; jews
Usury; jews
War ; Israel aka jews
Human trafficking guess who owned the slave ships? .... you guessed it ... those from the tribe of Judah.
Is interest (what you call "usury") evil? Not according to the New Testament, where bankers and interest are taken as a normality of life. See Matthew 25:27-30 and Luke 19:20-23. It was forbidden only among Jews by the Old Testament, in times where the issues were desperate famine or poverty. It was allowed between Jew and Gentile. Slaves were also allowed. Are you going to say that slavery is now allowed, on the same basis that you are saying interest is not?
Money is an asset. Assets can be rented, and money is no different. Are you arguing that the neighbor who rents his apartment makes it more expensive for you to rent your apartment? You have no idea how a market works, and you have no idea that no civic ill comes from rents, for free trade is only the voluntary exchange of assets and money.
The slave ships were owned mainly by Portuguese or Muslims. That is irrelevant, unless you are working in the topic of blood crimes against a race, which is collectivism.
You have no argument, only rationalizations. Interest is not evil. Many people need to borrow money for valid reasons, at the price of repayment. You cannot condemn anyone for what they do as free citizens, for otherwise you must also condemn the creditor.
Slavery is wrong.
Many things are wrong
Many things exist tgat we wish didn't exist.
Usury shoukd not exist. There is no counter argument. Full stop. You are morally wrong for defending usury. Full stop. It's like defending abortion. It's wrong period.
The slave ships were owned by jews and masons - try again.
Charging rent is evil. You do not get to charge ppl to live.
Everyone should own. Nearly everyone 5-10% will rent. But everyone not incapable should own the property they call home.
We are not free .... how silly of you to put forth that claim .....
Of course there is a "counter-argument." I gave it. It is a free-will transaction of a market commodity. No one is harmed by it, although people often complain about paying a price for anything. Should everything be free? Not likely. Should we countenance theft? I don't think so.
You are an anti-free-market nut job. You see evil all around you, while the rest of society sees it as a helpful necessity. No sin is committed. Bankers were accepted in the time of Christ, where it was expected that debts would be repaid with interest.
So, let me get this straight---you condemn all Jews because you want to live like an orthodox Jew? But you don't condemn gentiles?
I take my advice from a tenured professor in accounting. All loans should be government loans and should be interest free.
The Bible backs him with the interpretation that usury of any kind at any rate is inherently not beneficial to society as a whole. Ofc it exists. It shouldn't. But it does. And yes you can participate in it freely if you choose to. I chose not to. As a result I'm poor. I'm okay with the consequences of that belief.
Nothing is free. I agree. But we can have ppl live comfortably without having to pay hundreds n hundreds over n over n over with no prospect of ever owning anything. Why work hard? So you can have another Lamborghini? Like? Good for you? I live in a cage. I work in a cage and you think your witness of Christ Resurrected is just ..... a beaming light of hope to the world bc obviously christ blessed you and redeemed you and if i act like you, work hard, then i too can buy a property and make money doing nothing too and then i can start a business and once i can pay someone less than they're worth, and they agree to it, i can exploit them, in perpetuity....
Ain't it great?
No thanks fren. I hope I'm blessed with wealth but not at anyone's exploitation.
Bc usury is wrong and evil. It doesn't matter what man permits. The God of heaven n earth forbids it.
My government takes loans. My insurance goes up bc other ppl take loans out on cars they can't afford. Usury effects almost every aspect of our culture.
And once again, it's only one group of ppl were discussing that are the prime benefactors of usury. Same group. Every time.
I was once like you; A jew apologist.
Porn; jews Usury; jews War ; Israel aka jews Human trafficking guess who owned the slave ships? .... you guessed it ... those from the tribe of Judah.
Is interest (what you call "usury") evil? Not according to the New Testament, where bankers and interest are taken as a normality of life. See Matthew 25:27-30 and Luke 19:20-23. It was forbidden only among Jews by the Old Testament, in times where the issues were desperate famine or poverty. It was allowed between Jew and Gentile. Slaves were also allowed. Are you going to say that slavery is now allowed, on the same basis that you are saying interest is not?
Money is an asset. Assets can be rented, and money is no different. Are you arguing that the neighbor who rents his apartment makes it more expensive for you to rent your apartment? You have no idea how a market works, and you have no idea that no civic ill comes from rents, for free trade is only the voluntary exchange of assets and money.
The slave ships were owned mainly by Portuguese or Muslims. That is irrelevant, unless you are working in the topic of blood crimes against a race, which is collectivism.
You have no argument, only rationalizations. Interest is not evil. Many people need to borrow money for valid reasons, at the price of repayment. You cannot condemn anyone for what they do as free citizens, for otherwise you must also condemn the creditor.
Slavery is wrong. Many things are wrong
Many things exist tgat we wish didn't exist.
Usury shoukd not exist. There is no counter argument. Full stop. You are morally wrong for defending usury. Full stop. It's like defending abortion. It's wrong period.
The slave ships were owned by jews and masons - try again.
Charging rent is evil. You do not get to charge ppl to live.
Everyone should own. Nearly everyone 5-10% will rent. But everyone not incapable should own the property they call home.
We are not free .... how silly of you to put forth that claim .....
Of course there is a "counter-argument." I gave it. It is a free-will transaction of a market commodity. No one is harmed by it, although people often complain about paying a price for anything. Should everything be free? Not likely. Should we countenance theft? I don't think so.
You are an anti-free-market nut job. You see evil all around you, while the rest of society sees it as a helpful necessity. No sin is committed. Bankers were accepted in the time of Christ, where it was expected that debts would be repaid with interest.
So, let me get this straight---you condemn all Jews because you want to live like an orthodox Jew? But you don't condemn gentiles?
I take my advice from a tenured professor in accounting. All loans should be government loans and should be interest free.
The Bible backs him with the interpretation that usury of any kind at any rate is inherently not beneficial to society as a whole. Ofc it exists. It shouldn't. But it does. And yes you can participate in it freely if you choose to. I chose not to. As a result I'm poor. I'm okay with the consequences of that belief.
Nothing is free. I agree. But we can have ppl live comfortably without having to pay hundreds n hundreds over n over n over with no prospect of ever owning anything. Why work hard? So you can have another Lamborghini? Like? Good for you? I live in a cage. I work in a cage and you think your witness of Christ Resurrected is just ..... a beaming light of hope to the world bc obviously christ blessed you and redeemed you and if i act like you, work hard, then i too can buy a property and make money doing nothing too and then i can start a business and once i can pay someone less than they're worth, and they agree to it, i can exploit them, in perpetuity....
Ain't it great?
No thanks fren. I hope I'm blessed with wealth but not at anyone's exploitation.