President Trump on 𝕏 — "Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. . ."
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I’m a practicing Roman Catholic
You are correct May and the saints are not omnipresent. However this may help you understand:
https://catholic.cafe/2020/01/16/are-mother-mary-saints-and-angels-omnipresent-like-god-to-listen-to-prayer-requests-of-the-faithful-from-different-locations-on-the-planet-at-the-same-time/#:~:text=Mother%20Mary%2C%20the%20Saints%20or%20the%20Angels%20are,%28Ephesians%203%3A20%29.%20It%20is%20God%20who%20empowers%20them.
Catholics pray to the saints and especially to the Blessed Mother to intercede for us. We also ask them to pray for us. We do NOT worship their statutes NOR do we worship them.
We pray the prayer above to St Michael to protect us. We have different Saints we pray and ask help from. Some have specific novenas you can pray to specific saints to help us find lost things, ask for healings, etc.
I often pray the prayer above to Saint Michael but don’t typically pray to other saints for their help.
We pray aloud and also silently on our own.
This morning before Mass at my church we prayed the rosary aloud as a group. We will be praying the rosary every Sunday before Mass bc October is respect life month.
Alright, thanks. But can you explain how they hear your prayers? Do you believe they are omniscient or omnipresent? I don't understand how they HEAR your prayer.
God allows them to hear us.
To what end? I'm sincerely curious. Are you saying that God allows angels and Mary to hear your prayers so that they -- what? Can answer them? Or transmit the prayers to Him? But He has already heard them. I don't get it.
It's like asking your friends to pray for you. The saints in heaven are considered our friends (and our spiritual family), and because the soul is eternal, they are more alive now than ever. Their prayerful intercession is even more powerful than the intercession of friends and family who are still living on earth. The taxonomy is:
The Church Militant = believers on earth
The Church Triumphant = souls (saints) in heaven
The Church Suffering = souls in purgatory, who will one day reach heaven
I don't know if angels hear our prayers specifically, maybe the do, maybe they don't, but one thing for sure, angels only take orders from God, and will only go to where God commands. Daniel 10:10-13 is an account of exactly this. Daniel humbled himself before God and prayed, 21 days later Michael finally showed up, but Michael told Daniel that the prayer was heard the first day, and God sent Michael to Daniel, but the enemy's dark forces delayed Michael for 21 days. There is a war in the unseen realms and our biggest weapon is prayer, knowledge of the Word and our faith. You should read it, it's fascinating. Daniel 10:10-13 gives a tiny glimpse into the job of Michael
they don't need to be omniscient or omnipresent to hear you pray.
when somebody tags me in a comment, i get a notification. that doesn't mean i can perceive and be present at all parts of the internet at once. it just means there is a system where messages are relayed to the people they are relevant to.
Oh goodness. I honestly don't mean to sound disrespectful, but that doesn't make any sense to me. Where is the biblical support for this notion?
I'm just explaining the words that you are using.
As far as I know, the Bible doesn't specify the extent to which saints, angels, and archangels can perceive.
it does say there is much more to know than what is contained in it's written text, and that by forming a good relationship with God, you can be led to understand those things.
ask and ye shall receive.
The Catholic Rule of Faith is Scripture + Tradition. Catholics believe Jesus gave us a church initially, not a Bible. The Bible came later through His Church.
The Protestant Rule of Faith is sola scriptura.
It's a different ecclesiology. I hope that helps!
These answers are well meaning but incorrect. You don't have to be God in order to read thoughts. Demons do it during exorcisms all the time. Demons can do it. Angels can do it. Higher enlightened beings can do it. An angel perceiving your prayers can be accomplished for the same reason a demon knows a person is calling out to him. These beings perceive thoughts on a vibrational level. Angels can absolutely perceive prayers without a person speaking them out loud.
When I asked my follow up question, the link wasn't visible to me. Thanks for that. I read it and the scripture the writer is using as proof text. However, I don't believe that the text says what he suggests. At all. Yes, God can do anything. But there is no biblical support for the idea that He parcels out prayer requests and allows angels or anybody else to hear and / or answer them. I appreciate you trying though.
I just gave you one link about Saints. Here is another that actually gives you the biblical references for why Catholics pray to saints: https://www.ncregister.com/blog/4-biblical-proofs-for-prayers-to-saints-and-for-the-dead
There are many others if you try want to delve into it. I am no theologian so I cannot draw you to biblical references. I do know there are more books in a Catholic bible than a Protestant one, however.
Being raised Catholic I never questioned it. It’s tradition. We celebrate All Souls’ Day and All Saints’ Day. And everyone who goes to Heaven becomes a saint.
Some lived lives that the Catholic Church recognizes.
Again we do not worship them nor do we worship their statues.
Just so you know praying to saints dates way back to the very early church. And the first Christian Church was Roman Catholic.
Thank you. This is the most helpful thing I've seen. I'll delve into it more in depth when I have time. The first example of the rich man and Abraham makes me wonder about the dead communicating with the dead. By that I mean, perhaps once dead, a soul in hell can communicate with a soul in heaven. But does that mean a live person can communicate with a dead person? Again, I'll look into it more because I know there were more examples given in the article. I appreciate the answer!
You’re welcome. I have to do my own research onto it.
Been taking bible study with a group of other women from other denominations. So it’s useful to learn how to justify my own faith as it relates to the Bible.