And the amount of people who have chosen that hill to die on is astounding. I know quite a few women who consider this the most important thing facing our country today. My sister is one of them. Nothing else matters. She's a one issue voter, and that issue is abortion, and none of us (the rest of the family) can figure out why.
From what I've heard, it's specifically the ones that Planned Parenthood gives out that are sabotaged. The same with condoms. And it's a proven fact (from Consumer Reports, no less) that Planned Parenthood's condoms are less effective than any major brand for sale.
One thing that annoys me to no end is when people talk as if there was no contraception before the birth control pill. There have been many effective methods for millennia (the most effective, other than abstinence, being avoiding vaginal intercourse altogether for other options). It's just that not everyone is willing to make the effort and/or sacrifice that can come with these methods.
Some couples in the 1920s-1950s would "double up" by using both a condom and a diaphragm at the same time, since the chances of both failing at the same time are extremely low. It wasn't convenient, but it was effective. Other methods of "doubling up" include a condom + the pullout method or a condom + the rhythm method.
The pill increased convenience exponentially, but I think that's been a detriment, since it convinced people to stop thinking of birth control as something you have to work at and put effort into. It bred laziness and sloppiness.
"Individual freedom is a fundamental principle that I safeguard. Without a doubt, there is no room for compromise when it comes to this essential right that all women possess from birth." M Trump
Not allowing murder does not infringe on individual freedom.
Allowing murder is just the opposite. The victim's individual freedom has been infringed upon.
Thou shalt not murder. If you don't understand what murder is than you need to check your premises!
Some people think "it's my body I can do what I want". Actually, once life is growing inside that body it's no longer just your body. That's the fact the deranged abortion cult seems to miss.
Did you read Melanie's book and can confirm she is pro-choice as my understanding is that she thinks abortion is ok in cases where the mother is in danger or rape/incest but not as birth control.
Melanie believes it's acceptable to punish the baby, for the sin of it's father, because of her Catholic faith, but God calls it murder, for the child He knitted in the womb.
Had a catholic friend who believed as Melanie, that rape/incest was not considered murder. So, she asked her priest, and the priest told her, YES it is murder.
In an ideal world, it wouldn't be necessary at all.
But before we can get anywhere close to an ideal world... we need to deal with the late-term abortions... the post-birth baby murders... the fetal parts/adrenochrome/human sacrifice industry... the human trafficking industry...
we have so many massive issues to deal with before we start telling 16-year-old girls they should be forced to carry out their 4-week pregnancy.
sometimes abortions are a result of the satanic industry, but sometimes it's just a result of life today.
and when we create a society in which 16 year olds do keep their legs closed, we can start holding them responsible. but this is the society we've brought them into. it's our responsibility, not theirs.
That society is created by a strong family unit that teaches personal responsibility to its youth.
Stop finding excuses for failure.
My parents taught us personal responsibility.
It saved me from taking a vax shot with unknown ingredients.
There is no love without discipline. That's biblical.
Our children are not fodder for evil.
so teach your children. but don't erase the line between kids that havent been taught, and those actively corrupting and harvesting humans. again, we have bigger problems to deal with.
how do you polish something? you start by removing the biggest imperfections. start with a coarse grit, and work your way down. if you skip steps, you don't accomplish anything. that's exactly what this holier-than-thou crap is.
Family is the first step. parents are the first step. Personal responsibility is the beginning of success.
There are many hetero couples that would adopt newborn humans
There is no reason to kill a human.
Remove the stigma from child bearing.
God created people in his likeness and image.
aaand the institutions in place for placing infants with parents are controlled by satanic pedophiles. the same ones that run the schools that encourage promiscuity.
society has been forced into the state its in. it needs constant manipulation to keep it that way. remove the ones doing the manipulation, and watch how things change.
Society became what it is because of cowardice and selfishness.
And lack of personal responsibility.
The Founding Fathers understood that living under tyranny was the same as prison.
Folk now kill human beings that God created in His Image.
Women are designed to incubate humanity.
to life.
The embryo is a separate being unto GOD WITH its own soul.
So by this logic, we shouldn't hold gangs in chicago responsible for drive by shootings because its the world they were brought into? Do you realize how absolute retarded of a take that is?
Individual responsibility is a thing, and shouldn't be ignored.
Some of the most horrific murderers in history were children, who by your logic, should receive no punishment just because they're underage or because of the environment they were raised in.
If you're going to keep trying to make a point, at least use some kind of logic that has a modicum of sense to it. Because at this point, you're just making yourself look bad.
No I want to focus on responsibility. YOU are making excuses for people being held unaccountable for their actions, which is 90% of the problem with everything in the modern world. We would have never gotten to this point if people had to actual be responsible for their actions.
Also, yes children can, and have, gone to prison for things such as murder. A quick google search would tell you that.
The fact you refuse to accept that people are responsible for their own actions and can't even be bothered to do a 30 second google search to see if you're right or not tells me all I need to know. So I'll be stopping this conversation now since you're so far up your own butt that you can't admit you're wrong.
FYI, abortion IS PART OF THE SATANIC AGENDA. It's literally modernized human child sacrifice. So you wanting to argue that we should focus on that, but then ignore abortion is both ignorant, and counter to your own stated goal. Thus showing you have zero idea about anything you're talking about
Demographics reported to the CDC in 2021, the majority of women who had abortions (57%) were in their 20s, while about three-in-ten (31%) were in their 30s. Teens ages 13 to 19 accounted for 8% of those who had abortions, while women ages 40 to 44 accounted for about 4%.
I think it is high time we treat those that had committed abortion be sentenced to death. As others have said, that is a growing human being inside that womb.
And the amount of people who have chosen that hill to die on is astounding. I know quite a few women who consider this the most important thing facing our country today. My sister is one of them. Nothing else matters. She's a one issue voter, and that issue is abortion, and none of us (the rest of the family) can figure out why.
I think we will have to ban abortion come hell or high water. A lot of that is due to the media.
Hmmm . . . Since it's The Guardian that claims it's in the book, I'll wait for a reputable source to quote from the book.
They want to do anything to ensure that President Trump isn't reelected.
She released a fucking x post verbally saying it. ☹️
Or use birth control. There are so many other options to prevent rather than use an abortion as birth control.
A whistleblower who was nurse who worked in an abortion clinic, said the birth control pills are purposely meant to fail.
From what I've heard, it's specifically the ones that Planned Parenthood gives out that are sabotaged. The same with condoms. And it's a proven fact (from Consumer Reports, no less) that Planned Parenthood's condoms are less effective than any major brand for sale.
One thing that annoys me to no end is when people talk as if there was no contraception before the birth control pill. There have been many effective methods for millennia (the most effective, other than abstinence, being avoiding vaginal intercourse altogether for other options). It's just that not everyone is willing to make the effort and/or sacrifice that can come with these methods.
Some couples in the 1920s-1950s would "double up" by using both a condom and a diaphragm at the same time, since the chances of both failing at the same time are extremely low. It wasn't convenient, but it was effective. Other methods of "doubling up" include a condom + the pullout method or a condom + the rhythm method.
The pill increased convenience exponentially, but I think that's been a detriment, since it convinced people to stop thinking of birth control as something you have to work at and put effort into. It bred laziness and sloppiness.
"Individual freedom is a fundamental principle that I safeguard. Without a doubt, there is no room for compromise when it comes to this essential right that all women possess from birth." M Trump
Not allowing murder does not infringe on individual freedom.
Allowing murder is just the opposite. The victim's individual freedom has been infringed upon.
Thou shalt not murder. If you don't understand what murder is than you need to check your premises!
All respect for MT gone
Some people think "it's my body I can do what I want". Actually, once life is growing inside that body it's no longer just your body. That's the fact the deranged abortion cult seems to miss.
Did you read Melanie's book and can confirm she is pro-choice as my understanding is that she thinks abortion is ok in cases where the mother is in danger or rape/incest but not as birth control.
Melanie believes it's acceptable to punish the baby, for the sin of it's father, because of her Catholic faith, but God calls it murder, for the child He knitted in the womb.
Huh. How does that square with her Catholicism?
Had a catholic friend who believed as Melanie, that rape/incest was not considered murder. So, she asked her priest, and the priest told her, YES it is murder.
"Individual freedom is a fundamental principle that I safeguard."
Well, that's just fucking great. Does it apply to the individual freedom of the baby? No?
You should count your lucky stars your mom was anti-abortion.
I'm with her.
In an ideal world, it wouldn't be necessary at all.
But before we can get anywhere close to an ideal world... we need to deal with the late-term abortions... the post-birth baby murders... the fetal parts/adrenochrome/human sacrifice industry... the human trafficking industry...
we have so many massive issues to deal with before we start telling 16-year-old girls they should be forced to carry out their 4-week pregnancy.
sometimes abortions are a result of the satanic industry, but sometimes it's just a result of life today.
we need to be able to tell the difference.
tell 16 years old girls to keep their legs closed. After that it's the baby's Body not their body.
and when we create a society in which 16 year olds do keep their legs closed, we can start holding them responsible. but this is the society we've brought them into. it's our responsibility, not theirs.
That society is created by a strong family unit that teaches personal responsibility to its youth. Stop finding excuses for failure. My parents taught us personal responsibility. It saved me from taking a vax shot with unknown ingredients. There is no love without discipline. That's biblical. Our children are not fodder for evil.
so teach your children. but don't erase the line between kids that havent been taught, and those actively corrupting and harvesting humans. again, we have bigger problems to deal with.
how do you polish something? you start by removing the biggest imperfections. start with a coarse grit, and work your way down. if you skip steps, you don't accomplish anything. that's exactly what this holier-than-thou crap is.
Family is the first step. parents are the first step. Personal responsibility is the beginning of success. There are many hetero couples that would adopt newborn humans There is no reason to kill a human. Remove the stigma from child bearing. God created people in his likeness and image.
aaand the institutions in place for placing infants with parents are controlled by satanic pedophiles. the same ones that run the schools that encourage promiscuity.
society has been forced into the state its in. it needs constant manipulation to keep it that way. remove the ones doing the manipulation, and watch how things change.
Thou shall not kill You can always make the child available for adoption rather than murder.
Society became what it is because of cowardice and selfishness. And lack of personal responsibility. The Founding Fathers understood that living under tyranny was the same as prison. Folk now kill human beings that God created in His Image. Women are designed to incubate humanity. to life. The embryo is a separate being unto GOD WITH its own soul.
So by this logic, we shouldn't hold gangs in chicago responsible for drive by shootings because its the world they were brought into? Do you realize how absolute retarded of a take that is?
Individual responsibility is a thing, and shouldn't be ignored.
and what happens if the shooter is a 13 year old? federal prison?
Literally yes, that's how it works.
Here's a list of (with videos included on many) of child serial killers.
https://vocal.media/criminal/the-10-worst-child-serial-killers-unveiling-disturbing-histories
Some of the most horrific murderers in history were children, who by your logic, should receive no punishment just because they're underage or because of the environment they were raised in.
If you're going to keep trying to make a point, at least use some kind of logic that has a modicum of sense to it. Because at this point, you're just making yourself look bad.
why do you care if i make myself look bad?
i am still quite certain they don't send 13 year old murderers to federal prison.
I didn't say there should be no punishment. but i'm also not equating teenage sex to drive-by shootings.
and I really don't understand the resistance to prioritizing dismantling the satanic human-harvesting industry.
this in itself will lead to many other positive changes in society.
there are actual monsters out there, preying on kids.
and you want to focus on punishing the kids?
No I want to focus on responsibility. YOU are making excuses for people being held unaccountable for their actions, which is 90% of the problem with everything in the modern world. We would have never gotten to this point if people had to actual be responsible for their actions.
Also, yes children can, and have, gone to prison for things such as murder. A quick google search would tell you that.
The fact you refuse to accept that people are responsible for their own actions and can't even be bothered to do a 30 second google search to see if you're right or not tells me all I need to know. So I'll be stopping this conversation now since you're so far up your own butt that you can't admit you're wrong.
FYI, abortion IS PART OF THE SATANIC AGENDA. It's literally modernized human child sacrifice. So you wanting to argue that we should focus on that, but then ignore abortion is both ignorant, and counter to your own stated goal. Thus showing you have zero idea about anything you're talking about
Demographics reported to the CDC in 2021, the majority of women who had abortions (57%) were in their 20s, while about three-in-ten (31%) were in their 30s. Teens ages 13 to 19 accounted for 8% of those who had abortions, while women ages 40 to 44 accounted for about 4%.
92% were adults = we're 100% screwed as a society
I think it is high time we treat those that had committed abortion be sentenced to death. As others have said, that is a growing human being inside that womb.
I don't know about that logic. I want to have 2 kids, but pretty sure I've wanted to have sex at least 3x.