Please reply if you've voted.
I'll start. I voted- Got my parents to vote as well. Talking to others to pressure them to save the country.
Cannot let off of the gas. If you haven't done it, please go and do it now if you still have early voting. Bring friends and family. Every one of these counts.
We can't gamble on election day. They're going to do something.
God bless you all. We're in the home stretch!
Yes. 1 parent voted, second one is playing games. But in his defense, his brain is deteriorating thanks to the covid shot. My mom asked if she should fill it out. I told her no. We are better then them. Dad votes by mail, or he doesn't vote at all. He needs to say who he picks. She asked even if he picks harris? I said yes, if he picks her, then we help him fill in the bubbles. We are not them, period.
Sometimes it's so frustrating having morals, but then again I do sleep well at night. God bless you!
I would add another take to patriotic_legend, which is that if someone’s brain is deteriorating due to poor judgment, they maybe shouldn’t continue to have their judgment honored and imposed on the rest of us.
Your honor in the matter is respected. Don’t cheat, and don’t break the law, but also don’t go out of your way to publish his voice if he’s seeking to destroy your and our inheritance in the 24th hour.
The vote is fundamentally about selecting good and wise stewards of freedom, how can a man whose mind doesn’t allow him to care for himself do such a thing. Do we truly want the overflow of that cup poured out on society?
Is it more honoring of him to add his dementia to the rule society, or to show that his heirs were raised in such an upstanding manner as to gently and kindly refuse to contribute to it?
I.e. don’t submit his vote regardless of how he votes, because his mind isn’t there to make a sound decision. If you want to talk him into seeing the light, do it for your own peace of mind, or better, seek for his.
Frankly, it probably isn’t immoral of you to claim his voice as a living inheritance and fill it out as you see fit. In war, and we are at war, there is nothing immoral about meeting the enemy with equal force, or even greater force, and they are ballot harvesting, and from people they have no morally justifiable reason to do so from, aside from “I can, therefore I will”. I would not do this myself, as the means are the ends, and I don’t like that particular game (their justification for all their actions is that they’re always at war with us, so anything goes, all the time. Screw that.), but it doesn’t strike me as immoral. Would also definitely be sure to check the election laws first to make sure it’s not illegal.
This said, I have no issue whatsoever with my first suggestion, which is likely what I would do. It seems quite reasonable to assert that people who are not of sound mind should not be able to vote, and I think that was even a requirement for voting at one point.
These sort of choices aren’t necessarily easy, use your own discernment.
Today I asked him again. He said he is still thinking. I told him I can write in anything so if he chooses to not vote, atleast his ballot won't be stolen from him and given to harris. I offered a write-in of me to lock away his ballot from being available for theft.
I understand your comment, but if you have taken legal guardianship, it is then your duty to act in his best interests. You can sign contracts for him in his interest. Which would mean you are making his decisions for him, so then why not decide who he votes for, for him.
That being said, the scenario I bring up is rare. If you do not have guardianship and you feel that your parent is incapable of understanding the political landscape, it is likely best to not help him vote no matter who he supports.
I did not take legal guardianship. I think I will just "write-in" his dogs name or my name so his ballot won't be stolen by dems. Basically kill the option. Your right. If he can't make his own choices it's better to not let him make one for me
that sounds like an interesting idea, or don't vote and look up his record after the fact, document not voting somehow and then you have a voter fraud case if someone votes.
Yes, as noted, it seems morally justifiable. I did make some edits you might want to check out. Not sure if before or after this response, or if you saw them.
My personal best path for where we should want to get back to is that mentally unsound people are not allowed to participate in selecting honest, wise public servants, and no proxy voting.
I’d likely pick the best path up front, rather than perpetuating the war.
I think your logic makes perfect sense, I think there was some ruling from the ADA to protect disability vote. But that is a 3 letter agency making law, which should be illegal.
I have a special needs son, who I will be guardian over when he turns 18. Not for 2 years, but this is all food for thought. Do I do the upstanding moral thing knowing that others out their do not and are casting votes for their wards, or do I say when in Rome and vote for him.
I think the proper moral stance would be not voting for him even though the rest of the world is doing immoral things.
In your case you are correct, but what do you think of a case where your parent cannot communicate, is in late stage dementia? If you are appointed legal guardian you can vote for them. And as long as you honor your parent by voting the way they have always voted I think it is okay. Probably not a common reason, kinda like abortion due to rape.
Personally, I see the scenario I present as you are voting to honor your parent. Thoughts?