How would you dismantle it? I believe they must go also but you can't just shutter a place like that. It has to be dissected i believe. It needs a divide and conquer tactic. Reducing funding and each dept until they are not effective. I can't see how tondo it overnight. Those guys have clearances and knowledge that has to be kept from our enemies.
I truly do not believe that the cia has any meaningful independent intelligencetjay isn't covered by another branch. Wrap up foreign operations, if they're "too critical", role those operators into a socom, you now report to socom. Repeat with the fbi. Most of the issues we have are from a lack of communication between the intelligence agencies anyway, if you're truly a matter of national security, you'll keep your job, move over like 5 percent of the beurocrats, shitcan the rest.
Yes, I agree. So much duplication of effort. All intelligence needs to be in one agency under the control the U.S. Military. The purpose of intelligence should be national defense.
Instead, it is currently used to spy on the American people, spy on our elected leaders, blackmail, spy on other governments who are no danger to the United States, subvert elections in our own country and other countries, overthrow governments through coup d'etats or soft coups, they run human trafficking rings, child trafficking rings, arms trafficking, drug trafficking, etc., etc., etc.
One of the things people need to understand... the CIA makes part of it's own money through illegal operations. Even if congress stopped all funding, the CIA would still have money. This makes it non-accountable to government leadership. It is the shadow government. It does what it wants.
The problem with intelligence collection is that you cannot afford to have just one knothole through which to view the world. You need several different perspectives to be sure you are not seeing figments of imagination, or being fed malarkey. But how do you reconcile the perspectives? That problem still exists despite what happens to the CIA. The CIA is a case where a wartime agency, the OSS, gained influence and dominance over all intelligence product, thus providing a unified---but curated---picture. Other agencies (e.g., DIA) used to provide competing collection, but have been subdued over time.
In any case, the present CIA has a huge backlog of portfolios, data, and infrastructure and any rational disposition will need to have a severe inventory process.
Yes, I agree. So much duplication of effort. All intelligence needs to be in one agency under the control the U.S. Military. The purpose of intelligence should be national defense.
Hence why IIRC Q at one point said DIA and NSA are all we need
We don't need the cia, so we don't really need a director.
It still needs a controlled demolition.
Very much so. Did you know that the KGB still exists today as a mafia? That's what happens when you don't take things like that down properly.
And every one of them needs to lose their intelligence clearance -
And let's not forget the NAME of this PIECE OF SHIT.
PETER STRZOK
He is Demon Possed, I Have No Doubts.
No, it was replaced by the Federal Security Service (FSB). Same beat, different beaters.
Many former KGB, the ones who weren't hired by FSB, made the move to organized crime.
No, we need a director. When you want to demolish a building, you hire a demolition company. He's that demolition company.
CIA knows all about demolitions too (911)
If it exists, you need control.
I guess we'll have to disagree with this for now.
How would you dismantle it? I believe they must go also but you can't just shutter a place like that. It has to be dissected i believe. It needs a divide and conquer tactic. Reducing funding and each dept until they are not effective. I can't see how tondo it overnight. Those guys have clearances and knowledge that has to be kept from our enemies.
I truly do not believe that the cia has any meaningful independent intelligencetjay isn't covered by another branch. Wrap up foreign operations, if they're "too critical", role those operators into a socom, you now report to socom. Repeat with the fbi. Most of the issues we have are from a lack of communication between the intelligence agencies anyway, if you're truly a matter of national security, you'll keep your job, move over like 5 percent of the beurocrats, shitcan the rest.
Yes, I agree. So much duplication of effort. All intelligence needs to be in one agency under the control the U.S. Military. The purpose of intelligence should be national defense.
Instead, it is currently used to spy on the American people, spy on our elected leaders, blackmail, spy on other governments who are no danger to the United States, subvert elections in our own country and other countries, overthrow governments through coup d'etats or soft coups, they run human trafficking rings, child trafficking rings, arms trafficking, drug trafficking, etc., etc., etc.
One of the things people need to understand... the CIA makes part of it's own money through illegal operations. Even if congress stopped all funding, the CIA would still have money. This makes it non-accountable to government leadership. It is the shadow government. It does what it wants.
The problem with intelligence collection is that you cannot afford to have just one knothole through which to view the world. You need several different perspectives to be sure you are not seeing figments of imagination, or being fed malarkey. But how do you reconcile the perspectives? That problem still exists despite what happens to the CIA. The CIA is a case where a wartime agency, the OSS, gained influence and dominance over all intelligence product, thus providing a unified---but curated---picture. Other agencies (e.g., DIA) used to provide competing collection, but have been subdued over time.
In any case, the present CIA has a huge backlog of portfolios, data, and infrastructure and any rational disposition will need to have a severe inventory process.
Hence why IIRC Q at one point said DIA and NSA are all we need