Earliest "Jesus is God' Inscription found in Israel deemed greatest discovery since Dead Sea Scrolls.
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Yes he is. He is the human incarnation of God himself, because as almighty and all knowing as God is, he did not understand the human experience and especially why humans abused their gift of free choice. God didn’t have an understanding of how far, good or bad humans would choose to go, either by their own choices or pressure from their peers. Through Christ he gained 1st hand experience and in Christ’s death forgave us for our sins, because truly humans can act in awful ways when they certainly do not know what they are doing. What the long term implications can bring/be of any given choice.
That’s why instead of continued punishment from God or just up and wiping the human slate clean…. again, he left us with all of our faults and issues to decide on our own to make our free choice to try to follow Christ’s teachings regarding ourselves to our best ability, or not period.
Eternity or Heaven’s Earth/Garden awaits for those that do their best. Those that fail, I’m guessing go to Hell, or get to do the rough and tough love version of Earth all over again.
This is unpossible
I like to explain it like this:
I went through Kindergarten. I know exactly what it’s like. I have memories from that time in my life, I know how and why the teacher makes specific decisions, I know how I behaved, and I know how I expect my daughter to behave.
But despite this, there are times I just don’t quite get why something bothers my daughter for the day and makes her behave in ways I don’t appreciate.
I know the how, the why, the outcomes, but I was missing the specific context of her lived experience. In a real way, I know too much and can see the bigger picture too well to be able to relate to her struggles.
If I could put herself in my shoes, would I?
Of course.
And that’s why I think God did it. By limiting his view, he can choose to view our issues from our eyes and know our struggles without the benefit of his full capabilities and knowledge.
And I personally find that approach to be so loving and beautiful.
I would go even further, based on my own personal experiences with Jesus.
Jesus opened himself up to be the vessel of God and was guided to teach others how to do the same.
That's why organised religion hated him, because he is telling people that they have a direct connection with God, unpolluted by the personal desires/drives of the priesthood who have always maintained a monopoly on access to 'God' (in inverted comma's because they are no such thing of course).
I'm not even religious & appreciate this explanation💖
I am a devout follower of Christ and love him, his sacrifice, and his Word and I am not religious- many Christians aren’t. It is one of the big lies- Christians understand the sacrifice but we aren’t God but the world puts hypocritical rules on us…”If they were real Christians they wouldn’t act this way.” But we are flesh and broken. Don’t look to us look to Christ. “At the name of Jesus every knee should bow…and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord.” Philippians 2:10-11. Every day is a gift. Don’t run out the clock on making the choice of who you serve. Until now making no choice is to serve yourself.
He gifted us free will.
No need to agree Anon. 😊 It’s of course my own belief of him but think about it, God spent an entire Testament spanking and attempting to get his children to do as he asked. It didn’t work. So he came as Christ to find out why, and how truly STUPID we are with free choice.
Christ never calls us stupid of course, but he sure as heck got frustrated with even his own apostles not listening or getting certain things. So he would then tell parables to make a point to them of not listening the easy way the first time.
Christ has a fantastic since of humor and I imagine he facepalmed himself in total frustration many times haha.
The only part you’re getting wrong is the claim that God didn’t know or understand something. He created us with free will fully understanding what He was doing in full depth. He is all-knowing.
I assume you’re not remembering the end of the second chapter of the Gospel of John:
I think that's the point that was being made. How can God become less than all-knowing unless constrained by an earthly vessel, with limitations and flaws which he does not possess?
Of course Jesus knew people well by that time silly. He was what 32 or 33 haha. But before he was even born my point is God was concerned and twitter pated, confused even after an entire Testament of man not listening. God needed the intimate, on ground, in person experience to really Get/Perceive/Comprehend, why we humans are so good, or stupid and then outright cruel with our free choice. How far would we take it. Through Christ’s death he understood what he needed from the experience. And promised to save us from our sins if we try to do our best to follow Christ’s words.
This is how Christ has guided me to my opinion. And truly he’ll sort us all out once he arrives again. And it’s going to be soon, in this lifetime even. It will be wonderful to hear what he has to say too.
He likened us to sheep! If you know anything about sheep… 🤔
He has known all ALLS always. It is impossible for God to not know something.
Just as simple as a parent can’t understand why their 4yr old won’t listen when being naughty, God factually spends an entire Testament of the Bible arguing with humans. Why did he not snap his fingers and make us act right? Because as another said here, God “rolled the dice” on how an animal would behave with free choice. No other animal on Earth has such a gift.
And so Christ arrived so God could in fact gain the “human” experience of our best and worst. “Forgive them Father. They KNOW NOT what they do.” He asked God to forgive us if our sins, and the greatest sin of all, just following orders or peer pressure to torture and kill another human whom was innocent. Because why? Humans do stupid shit, and Christ needed the intimate experience to understand the faulty piece/gift he gave us, and how far we would take it. Yes God designed us this is true, but we were his first experiment with giving the gift of free choice.
And it is a both wonderful and tragic gift to be sure, as no other species has done the wonders and damage we humans have period.
It's not that God "didn't understand" the human experience. We could have not sinned but we all have, and through Adam we have.
He came as Jesus with the intent from the beginning, even as foretold in Old Testament prophecies, to die for our sins. The decision was not made on-the-spot or because of any observations.
But that’s exactly what Christ did, made a more intimate, in person 33yr observation of us at our best and our most horrible. Christ learned why we are so stupid or careless, and also so kind too, with free choice. That’s why he said, “Forgive them Father. For they know not what they do.” And many times we truly don’t.
Christ already knew. Humans could not have.
Dude…..🙄
In other words God rolled the dice with free will.