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pepewarrior0102 3 points ago +3 / -0
  1. You could check out VAERS using their search tool (https://wonder.cdc.gov/) but it's complicated. There is a website that supposedly summarizes this data in a more readable form, found here: https://vaersanalysis.info/2021/09/10/vaers-summary-for-covid-19-vaccines-through-9-03-2021/ (And their methodology for doing so they describe here: https://vaersanalysis.info/about/website-validation/)

  2. It's not FDA approved. They created a 'ghost vaccine' on paper with the exact same ingredients named Comirnaty. That's the one they approved, and you can't even get it anywhere. The one you can get, BioNTech, is still under EUA. It was a deceitful move.

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pepewarrior0102 3 points ago +3 / -0

For this reason I was weary that the "Australian Truckies" thing might be a PsyOp to move the whole thing along. Shortages seem to be something the cabal wants.

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pepewarrior0102 2 points ago +2 / -0

NOTE: NOT a doctor/vet/anything like that. Just digging.

  1. The first paper he links gives anti-Ivermectin arguments I've already heard
  • "Occasional" adverse events (from what I've researched personally, very rare)
  • Some of the first studies for Ivermectin vs. Covid-19 were done in vitro (in a culture dish and thus he's claiming not representative of real treatments)

My rebuttal to #1: I've heard the in-vitro argument before but we've seen the studies where where they're used in humans. To be fair, he goes on to note that these "don't follow proper reporting guidelines", but I'd need to dig further.

  1. He's mentioning harmful effects in humans with the mdr-1 gene mutation. As a background, certain dog breeds such as Collies that also have this gene can experience neurological effects in doses larger than (I believe) 600 micrograms/kg. I believe the human dose is 0.2mg/kg which is 200 micrograms/kg. However in the study I'm about to link this (does) in RARE cases cause issues like any other drug can.

I found a study on the neurological side effects of Ivermectin:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5929173/

"The mechanism of these events has been debated in the literature, largely focusing on the role of concomitant high burden infection with L. loa versus the presence of mdr-1 gene variants in humans allowing ivermectin penetration into the central nervous system (CNS)."

So it's debated whether mdr1 is the issue or whether L. loa causes this. The author of this study claims that a patient's smeared blood stain didn't show evidence of microfilariae, which apparently discredits the possibility of a high density of L. loa being present. Thus the author of the study became concerned with Ivermectin itself.

However, it goes on to note that such events are rare:

"By comparison with the extensive post marketing experience with ivermectin in the successful treatment of parasitic infections, the number of reported cases suggests that such events are likely rare. However, elucidation of individual-level risk factors could contribute to therapeutic decisions that can minimize harms. Further investigation into the potential for drug–drug interactions and explorations of polymorphisms in the mdr-1 gene are recommended."

I've heard much good about this being used to treat Covid in the US.

3.) This Kats guy himself- his language seems to be that of a Liberal. "sorry, but no" along with saying that "early bootlegged manipulated studies don't count" and that Ivermectin "never demonstrated any efficacy". He also goes on to say the same about vitamin D, zinc, and Quercetin. (Dr. Zelenko uses these IIRC). He then goes on to tag the facebook profiles for the CDC and the NIH as though they're his allies and are going to help him, even though most on this site would agree that these organizations are corrupt.

Finally, despite his criticisms of pro-Ivermectin studies, he does not have that many studies to offer; his website links a few studies that talk about the use of melatonin as an anti-inflammatory and hypothetically call for its use for Covid-19 (but show no studies on actual patients), and then he links a paper describing how Niacin might hypothetically be used to treat Covid-19- authored by himself. The only other proof on his website is a screenshot of a few twitter posts thanking him.

Conclusion: I have tried to look at this honestly and "entertain a thought without accepting it" as Aristotle would say. I don't want to be biased- I'll admit I have been very pro-Ivermectin, but I just don't agree that the FLCCC is committing "crimes against humanity" and that it would be Fauci and the NIH to swoop in and save the day. If there are better ways, why aren't the NIH and the CDC pursuing them if they're on the up-and-up, as Kats makes it seem? Moreover, it seems that he is exaggerating rare Ivermectin side effects (even the author of such papers acknowledge they are rare). And finally, he needs to provide more, real evidence that HIS cure is better- it's currently not even up to par with the Ivermectin studies that he criticizes.

Again, not a doctor. If you have another opinion feel free to reply.

by KittyQ
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pepewarrior0102 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was reading someone on here's post that said Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine may help mitigate the side effects of the vaccine- so perhaps there's some hope. Also, see if you can make sure they don't get the 3rd shot or any further boosters. Hope this helps! Cheers friend. We are with you in spirit.

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pepewarrior0102 2 points ago +2 / -0

Are there any proofs associated with these people that might convince one they're the real deal?

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pepewarrior0102 0 points ago +1 / -1

It will hurt the common man first, the elites have enough money to find alternatives or hold out for a while.

The wake up pains are supposed to come from people witnessing the deep state's actions, not from people inadvertently harming themselves.

I am all for mass non-compliance, but what if this is a psyop to usher in the mass starvation / etc for the great reset which we KNOW they want?

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pepewarrior0102 0 points ago +1 / -1

It will hurt the common man first, the elites have enough money to find alternatives or hold out for a while.

The wake up pains are supposed to come from people witnessing the deep state's actions, not from people inadvertently harming themselves.

I am all for mass non-compliance, but what if this is a psyop to usher in the mass starvation / etc for the great reset which we KNOW they want?

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pepewarrior0102 -2 points ago +3 / -5

This. Seems like their "great reset" wants people to be without food. How is this helping?

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pepewarrior0102 1 point ago +1 / -0

Could you clarify what part of PatriotLove's interpretation differs from yours? (Sincerely asking)

It seems to me like both of you guys are correct and don't contradict each other. Like you said, one is 12+, the other is 16+, however both of those are adult age ranges and supposedly the one that's still in markets is the BioNTech which is still available under the EUA. So this is the one that adults will still be getting.

I have heard (but not confirmed?) that comirnaty, which was purportedly created and approved on the spot using the same formulation, is not even obtainable. The idea I've heard is that this was simply done as a 'switcharoo' to mislead the public. Some people try to point out that it's 12 and 16 years of age but based on the inclusion of the "and up" part it seems that both the new approved comirnaty and the original EUA BioNTech are what would concern adults. Does anyone have more information or clarification?

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pepewarrior0102 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh sorry, I just meant you'd have to count/measure/eyeball 1/113.75th of the tube as 1mg, and then do the math and measure out the correct dosage. Will reword my comment.

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pepewarrior0102 7 points ago +7 / -0

Not a pharmacist but I've used Ivermectin before, the human tablet form, and 0.2mg/kg of bodyweight is what the FLCCC recommends in its I-MASK+ protocol for treating Covid, which is the same as the dosage amounts shown here.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

I also checked the math at the top; seems correct to say that there are 113.75 milligrams per tube. So you'd just have to count 1/113.75th of the tube as 1mg, and measure it out based on your calculated dosage.

I've heard before that sometimes the medicine will concentrate at one end of the tube and not be evenly mixed in with the paste, so you should put it in a separate container first and mix it around so that the medicine gets distributed evenly. But I've also had another guy disagree that this is an issue. I'd do it anyway just to be safe.

And finally, for the record and for credibility purposes, I would recommend getting human tablets from frontlinemds.com (backed up), americasfrontlinedoctors.org, or https://www.exstnc.com/ (by state directory)

Anyone is free to copy/paste any of the information in this comment or the entire comment.

by Restore
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pepewarrior0102 1 point ago +1 / -0

Is this legal?

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pepewarrior0102 0 points ago +1 / -1

OP is just asking for thoughts. He isn’t trying to make this post go viral and the headline isn’t trying to insinuate this is true. Despite perhaps being untrue this is a fair post IMO because he is simply asking for clarification- and the info in the article taught me some things I didn’t know before (refrigeration trucks, for example).

Now, on the topic of the source itself. Despite the website claiming it’s made for jokes, does anyone remember the Q post that mentions plausible deniability and its effectiveness as a workaround for NAT SEC laws?

This is just hypothetical. I’m merely tossing around ideas now. Remember how the X22Report claims to be “one man’s opinion”, but airs 2 episodes 5 times per week with insights so good that some believe he’s being briefed by the patriots?

On the other hand, I have seen these “joke news” sites also mention the pope or something being arrested after the Jan 9 Vatican blackout (which was also very suspicious). Total hoax? Could it have happened? What about when the pope “vanished” like a hologram last year?

I am not advocating one belief or another. I am just sharing my thoughts. OP made this as a discussion thread, not as a news headline.

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pepewarrior0102 4 points ago +4 / -0

For Ivermectin (if you choose it over HCQ), the FLCCC puts out a good treatment guide called the I-MASK+ protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

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pepewarrior0102 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've heard that you should put it all into a container and mix it around, since the medicine supposedly is sometimes concentrated at one end of the tube. (Not an endorsement)

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pepewarrior0102 4 points ago +4 / -0

It seems he has fallen for the logically unsound MSM arguments against ivermectin:

  • Lethal doses can be fatal (duh)
  • Horse version was not meant for humans (duh)
  • FDA has approved it as an antiparasitic but not specifically for Covid (or, as they misleadingly write it, "IT'S NOT APPROVED BY THE FDA")
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pepewarrior0102 7 points ago +7 / -0

Accurately describes how they think. Just blind trust that another person is smarter than them.

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pepewarrior0102 4 points ago +4 / -0

This isn't apple's job. I will be making an effort to avoid their products.

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