I am still in the "no tariffs until no income tax" camp.
No income tax is the promise, and I won't accept tariffs until that condition is met. That just ends up double fucking us the moment another RINO or Dem gets in office.
It's a good start for someone not even in office yet. But we need to go all the way. Score that goal. Sink that basket.
People on the left are already using it to ridicule us as they claim we voted for Trump because of inflation and they say tariffs are going to cause everything to skyrocket even worse so jokes on us… I definitely agree that Trump needs to takes care of us first so we can either afford the tariffs or higher cost for American made goods. And also to provide a good slap on the left side so they can stfu and eat their words.
Why do anons get so caught up in the lefts narrative?
Tariffs, at least to begin with, are to be used as a cudgel to reverse the decades long outsourcing of our manufacturing sector, not as a revenue producer. If your product and its parts are predominantly made in the USA you will have no tariff. This will supercharge the economy and wages will far outstrip any increase in the cost of some goods. The repatriation of manufacturing has already begun and companies are scrambling to meet the conditions.
And there is another reason for tariffs. They will be used as a diplomatic cudgel as well.
There is no downside to how Trump will use tariffs. We already have seen the positive effects in his first administration.
I dont think you can just end income tax by decree. It would cause short term damage thats unacceptable. You still have to fund the government. I see a gradual amending to the tax code and the clean up of unfair practices that cause us to pay taxes on money we have already paid taxes on, and as tariffs and other revenue producers come online it will be replaced with a flat tax and perhaps a VAT or removed entirely.
Frankly, that's always made the most sense to me. You buy based on what you can afford to buy. A flat consumption tax - I think food and meds should be exempt - would be applied equally and those who work more cash basis to avoid paying would pay.
True, but we need the economy fixed first, because right now, Tax Return= Life saver. Only time I can afford to repair my cars enough to get thru the year and pay off my bills.
You sound like you dont know how taxes work. Tax refund at end of year means you overpaid your taxes throughout the year. No income tax would mean you keep all of that tax money in the first place.
Of course. But an extra few bucks a week would get spent. A few grand at tax time lets me catch up for the year. If prices were at 2018 level I could actually save money but my wages have not kept up with inflation.
Income Tax = Slave Tax
This. It's still income tax. They took the shackle off your left leg and put it on the right...and everybody cheers.
I am still in the "no tariffs until no income tax" camp.
No income tax is the promise, and I won't accept tariffs until that condition is met. That just ends up double fucking us the moment another RINO or Dem gets in office.
It's a good start for someone not even in office yet. But we need to go all the way. Score that goal. Sink that basket.
People on the left are already using it to ridicule us as they claim we voted for Trump because of inflation and they say tariffs are going to cause everything to skyrocket even worse so jokes on us… I definitely agree that Trump needs to takes care of us first so we can either afford the tariffs or higher cost for American made goods. And also to provide a good slap on the left side so they can stfu and eat their words.
Agreed. Normies won't swallow it either because it will literally just be another tax on the people at that point.
Needs to be a give and take, but the give needs to happen as part of the package.
Why do anons get so caught up in the lefts narrative?
Tariffs, at least to begin with, are to be used as a cudgel to reverse the decades long outsourcing of our manufacturing sector, not as a revenue producer. If your product and its parts are predominantly made in the USA you will have no tariff. This will supercharge the economy and wages will far outstrip any increase in the cost of some goods. The repatriation of manufacturing has already begun and companies are scrambling to meet the conditions.
And there is another reason for tariffs. They will be used as a diplomatic cudgel as well.
There is no downside to how Trump will use tariffs. We already have seen the positive effects in his first administration.
I dont think you can just end income tax by decree. It would cause short term damage thats unacceptable. You still have to fund the government. I see a gradual amending to the tax code and the clean up of unfair practices that cause us to pay taxes on money we have already paid taxes on, and as tariffs and other revenue producers come online it will be replaced with a flat tax and perhaps a VAT or removed entirely.
Movement and momentum in the right direction is moar gooderer than hillary clinton and those like her tho...
Let's not assume it's a flat income tax. It could be a flat consumption tax.
Frankly, that's always made the most sense to me. You buy based on what you can afford to buy. A flat consumption tax - I think food and meds should be exempt - would be applied equally and those who work more cash basis to avoid paying would pay.
Yeah, plus even if it was on absolutely everything, currently day to day, the poorest class still pays 15% taxes.
True, but we need the economy fixed first, because right now, Tax Return= Life saver. Only time I can afford to repair my cars enough to get thru the year and pay off my bills.
You sound like you dont know how taxes work. Tax refund at end of year means you overpaid your taxes throughout the year. No income tax would mean you keep all of that tax money in the first place.
Of course. But an extra few bucks a week would get spent. A few grand at tax time lets me catch up for the year. If prices were at 2018 level I could actually save money but my wages have not kept up with inflation.
Practice better self control 💕