One of the major problems that China has is their lack of logistical support beyond the South China Sea and the first island chain. Their nuclear sub tech is under developed and not ready for prime time. They have lost a couple of them already that we know of. The last one sank in the harbor. So the idea that China would be able to deploy one of their diesel subs to the Atlantic is not likely. They are trying to rectify this logistical gap by taking over ports through Belt and Road debt traps.

China has all kinds of Russian military tech, but building it and have it actually function is where the problem lies. They lack experiential knowledge that comes from years of research and development. Their people are taught to obey centralized authority to the point that they cannot solve complex problems. They find it difficult to innovate and think outside the box. They want everything quickly to fulfill political goals. Add to this the fact that the entire military industrial chain is highly corrupt and self serving. The Russians unfortunately are finding out the hard way how unreliable Chinese military equipment really is. The reality of China is nothing like the propaganda that they promote.

Thanks for the info fren.

Granted, they have kicked everyone's ass when it comes to building ships. But it is not because they make a better product. Over the years they have slowly been able to muscle almost everyone else out of the market with regards to cargo and tanker ships due to cost and unfair trade practices. However, for many Western nations our superior military fleets are still built in the West and for reasons beyond just national security concerns. Thankfully several countries are trying to reverse the trend by encouraging their own homegrown commercial ship building - but it is going to take time to reverse. China's navel fleets however are still not ready for prime time and are more for show. They just lost one of their subs a couple of months ago. It sank in the harbor and never made it out for trials. This in addition to another sub they lost about a year ago that went down losing the entire crew. Their latest carrier, the Fujian, still has not made it out of sea trials and has yet to actually launch fighters. China has yet to project presence outside of their own backyard.

My point is that even though they may have antigravity tech does not mean they can build it and have it actually work. This is where China falls flat. Most of what many in the West believe the Chinese possess in the way of advanced technology is pure fantasy. They are masters of false facade and it only shows how successful they have been in their infiltration and propaganda. Sun Tzu strategy. We need to be more careful about what we believe with regards to Chinese tech and make sure we look beyond the surface.

Even though I have been a China watcher for years, my opinion also is based upon information from others with actual inside knowledge of China from diverse expertise - many of them Chinese that escaped the clutches of the CCP. They are all consistent in their warnings. The CCP knows they could never challenge the West head to head. So they are fighting an asymmetrical war with the West. Also, let us not forget that there are forces behind the scenes that profit from creating bogey men. It is good for business and fits their global agendas.

Thanks for your response and opinions. Discussion is good.

I've got the same gut feeling. The fact they're handing over the information, rather than us having to dig it out, is very telling. It stinks like bullshit, IMO.

Probably 😂 I'm thinking out of the box.