Congressmen Andy Briggs has put forward a bill to abolish OSHA (link to bill below).
For those of you who don't know, OSHA is a bloated and corrupt corpse that is riding on the backs of American workers. It has been weaponized by the Deep State as a regulatory burden for companies to make them less competitive. Removing them will help restore America back to a time when we were the leading industrial power in the world. Its very existence is an insult to the intelligence and self-preservation instincts of American workers
There are some concerns here that we can address. First, won't this make employees less safe?
No, it won't. Businesses have a vested interest in keeping their workers safe—after all, dead or injured employees can’t produce profits! If OSHA were abolished tomorrow, companies would immediately adopt even better safety standards, because no employer wants to deal with high turnover, expensive lawsuits, or negative press. It’s simple economics: the invisible hand of the free market is more effective than the heavy hand of government. We don’t need OSHA because we already have laws against negligence. If an employer is really reckless, workers can sue. And if they can’t afford a lawyer? Well, that’s why personal responsibility exists. Workers will refuse to work for unsafe companies. This is the way it has been done for centuries before OSHA existed.
Further, OSHA infantilizes workers. OSHA forces workers to wear unnecessary safety gear that just slows them down. If someone wants to operate heavy machinery in flip-flops, that’s their right as an American. If we trust people to vote and drive cars, we should trust them to decide whether they need safety goggles.
Abolishing OSHA is not just about saving money—it’s about restoring faith in personal responsibility. Without OSHA, we would enter an era where businesses thrive and workers make their own informed choices. In other words, we would return to a system that worked perfectly fine before OSHA was created in 1971.
Dept of Education followed by IRS…get in line MFs
Yup, that's the plan. Besides the ones I see often listed, I'm looking forward to purging the USPS, the NWS, and especially the NPS.
I agree.
Mostly.
There are many nasty capitalists who don't care about employees. It's human nature. What per cent? I don't know.
Do we need OSHA over everyone to protect against the bad employers? No.
Maybe we need some accountability measures if an employer allows employees to be injured or maimed through employer negligence.
There are already accountability measures, I mentioned in the post. Bad employers will get sued and will have a hard time recruiting good workers.
Yes, true, but being sued when the legal system sucks and is expensive is not much of an incentive. All you need to do is look to history to see how some employers are, or, talk to enough people today and you'll come across case after case of employer bullshit. Greed makes people do bad things.
This is where the communities and private charity organizations come into play. They can raise money privately. Look at Kyle Rittenhouse. Many people chipped in to help him fight injustice, and it worked. No government intervention needed.
Look, if people aren't willing to put in the work to promote themselves and tell their story, then there isn't much we can do. Creating a bloated government entity only makes this worse. Maybe some people will have a hard time, but that's nothing compared to the difficulty we all face when the economy is weighed down so heavily with regulation.
I actually saw an employee attach two male ends to a power cord. Government employee wasn't fired. Osha can't fix that problem. Unemployment can.
Yup. This is the result of homosexuality taking over our education system.
Do the EPA next.
IRS first. Then DOJ, FBI, DEA, ATF. Then DOE. Then DHS. Then DOT. THEN DOL. Then Dept of Interior. Then OSHA.
Or, better yet, Trump leans heavily.on his Cabinet Dept Heads to initiate it all at the same time. Overwhelm [them] with cuts all at the same time and it'll bog down the MSM and Deep State so bad, it may short circuit [their] smooth brains for good.
Airlines are one of the most regulated industries there is. Because of these regulations, a new airliner might cost tens of millions of dollars. Parts for airlines cost ten times their cost for the same part at the local hardware store. This makes it so only the biggest players. All we need to do to make this competitive is remove the regulations. Let the passengers and the companies themselves decide what level of risk they are comfortable with.
Teddy Roosevelt was a "progressive". Yeah, he helped in some ways, but he also did a lot of damage. He was in favor of things like "national health insurance", a progressive income tax, an inheritance tax, and social welfare programs (unemployment insurance, old age pensions). His environmental conservative violated the principles of private ownership and paved the way for the massive amount of land controlled by the government today. Last, his third party candidacy basically handed the Democrats their first Presidential win in decades and put Woodrow Wilson in office, who was the Carter Clinton Biden of his day. This is why we need to get back to teaching real history in our schools.
The constitution doesn't mention anything about labor regulations, so yes, the founding fathers did want to leave it up to us to figure out. We can still codify standards, but their adoption should be voluntary so that there is competition among the standards. That way the most efficient, and profitable standards will rise to the top.
Do you know what all those countries you mentioned have in common? They’re losers. Labor laws can be good, but more often than not, they impede business and progress. Do you know why young people are so liberal and don’t care about our country? It is because they’ve never had to work. They think childhood is all fun and games with their parents providing everything, and now they want uncle Sam to do the same. If you talk to kids who grew up working on a farm, they’ll tell you differently. They’re hardworking, independent, and don’t expect handouts. Sure, there were some issues with children working, back in the day, but child labors laws and minimum wage have made it impossible for children to work and is rotting out the moral fiber of our nation. As I’ve said before, we don’t need laws. We can do much better with the free market, and independent voluntary standards. Then workers can choose to work for companies that adhere to the standards they think best suit them. This will help teach personal responsibility, which is sorely lacking in our youth today. This is what MAGA is all about, making America truly great again, like is used to be.
People die all the time anyway. The question is, do we really live? We can’t just keep legislating all these safety nets. It erodes personal responsibility. Right now, we are all being punished because some people won’t take personal responsibility. That is basically a core fundamental of communism, total control of everyone.
Injuries were only higher because people were dumb. And yes, removing OSHA and all the hand holding may result in more injuries. However, this is a more fair system because it will punish stupidity and reward risk and intelligence. Also, people still work 84 hours a week, and more. This is a free country, everyone should be allowed to work as much as they want.
President Trump is creating a new elite. Look at Elon Musk. He was a poor immigrant from South Africa who believed in the American dream. He has worked hard and is now the richest man in the world, and one of the most powerful. Much of the current elite are only in power because of protection from the government.
The tenth amendment says “any powers not given to the federal government are reserved for the states or the people”. This is a right that is for us, we the people, and we shouldn’t cede this over to big daddy government because some individuals can’t take personal responsibility. You say these laws don’t contradict our rights, but they do. People tell me that I can’t work a job without a ugly yellow vest and a hard hat. That should be my right to choose. And further, corporations are people to. They have rights that need to be respected as well.
I have a hard time taking seriously anything from someone who has abandoned the US and lived somewhere else. Of course they will say stuff like that. Every person I’ve ever met who was a big international traveler was also very liberal.
Our food market is far from free. First off, large corporations control most of the food market. Do you know why? Regulations. I can’t buy fresh milk from my neighbor because the government says they have to boil it first. That is absurd. If I want raw milk, I should be able to drink it. The FDA poses such huge burdens on food companies that only the largest ones can survive. A single recall is enough to devastate a small company. This should not be happening. Once we abolish the FDA, the market will be wide open to anyone who wants to participate. Local growers will have a natural advantage in the market. It also doesn’t help that the government subsidizes corn and puts it in absolutely everything. We just need a hands-off approach.
Again, this comes back to personal responsibility. A fully functioning adult should be able to figure out what food is good, and what companies are creating healthy food. Bad food companies will go out of business because consumers will have lots of options and won’t choose them.
All because of big government regulatory capture. The US government is larger and spends more than any other government in the world. It is a bloated corpse that rides on our back. It is forcing people to choose unhealthy foods and limits our options. By removing all this regulation, the free market will correct these issues. Some people will eat unhealthy foods, but this brings us back to personal accountability. If you are drinking soda, eating fried foods, doing cocaine, or getting tons of body modifications, then that is your problem, not the mine, and not the government's.
President Trump has said:
We can't let our enemies use the technicalities of the constitution to hold us back. We have to continue to push forward while in power, otherwise we will be sidelined, and they will make sure we will never have another chance at this.
Get rid of OSHA!
What? Treat employed people like adults that have a healthy instinct for self-preservation? Oooooh.... this must be that "common sense" thing Trump keeps mentioning.
Apparently that's too much for some around here though. When did personal responsibility become such a bad thing?
Yes, AND that free-market hand INCLUDES non-government regulatory agencies like the National Fire Protection Association (founded 1895) and UL, formerly Underwriter Labs, founded in 1894. (UL in particular has been somewhat corrupted in recent years by partial integration into OSHA, but the point still stands).
Without free-market (and thus open to competition, etc), non-profit regulation, the wonders of corporate concern for employees and customers don't always materialize (see Big Pharma, going back to the Rockefeller influence in the 1800s, for instance. Hell, see slavery in the Old South, for that matter).
Regulation is necessary.
GOVERNMENT "regulation" is a corrupt, cancerous simulacrum of honest regulation.
I hope that non-profit, non-government regulatory groups will quickly fill the gap that OSHA has been forcibly covering. No regulation can be as dangerous as bad and corrupt regulation.
EDIT: See The Market for Liberty (free at Mises.org or available at Amazon) for much detail on how actual liberty can much better supply needed regulation and other "government" roles than can coercive governance.
I was about to post similar to this. If you remove OSHA, fine, im happy too. BUT, an independent safety system should be required to take its place. Businesses and business owners suck. Ive personally seen a lot of people hurt and die from companies who don't give a crap about safety and push/bully employees to take excessive risk. It's a cop out to say businesses will care for the employees.
Moral ones will, but many won't until they're forced to. Too many bad actors to just pull that rug out without a suitable replacement. Take it back to the states, or make it an independent body, but strip it down first.
The free market can produce a system. Businesses create standards all the time. It may take a while, but they usually will all land at the same place. It can be like how certain products will say "this conforms with such and such standard". We do this for organic foods and IT equipment. Basically, when someone goes to apply for a job, they can look up what standards of workers rights and safety that the company voluntarily complies with. This will be efficient and will utilize the free market to help make decisions.
Exactly.
As a person working in safety; I think reform would be beneficial (the C19 BS was so much of an overstepping of authority). Abolishment of OSHA would put the American worker at further risk. It is the Government's job to protect the citizen of the nation - protect from foreign & domestic adversaries, protect from being taken advantage of in trade, protect from being maimed, injured, or killed by their employer, protect from being taken advantage of by companies with more purchasing power than the average citizen (e.g., monopolies, insurance companies) etc. - an oversight body like OSHA, if properly executed, can continue the free market, but still hold the employer responsible to ensure a safe workplace.
The company i currently work for is fairly safety-focused but only because there is a government obligation to be safety focused. all employers will fall into the productivity over people thought trap and 99% of the time, productivity wins out. If the company is able to pay out an insurance claim and continue to rake in the money they will, regardless of the consequences, if there is no authority telling them they have to provide a safe working environment.
Now, employees being retarded, doing stupid shit and then getting hurt, i don't see that as a responsibility of the employer and this is definitely an area where OSHA can use some significant reform.
If the company is paying out insurance claims, then they are fulfilling their end of the deal. If employees aren't satisfied with the level of protection that is afforded, they can get other jobs. That's the beauty of the free market, it is self correcting.
"They can't do that. We just printed a gazillion of those stickers that go on the ladders!!"/s
Trucks will start backing up without going "BEEP, BEEP, BEEP"!!
There is a secret, underground MAGA document that shows exactly which agencies should be allowed. No others are allowed. All the rest MAGA will be shutting down. Everyone in those agencies will be FIRED. Here is the secret, underground MAGA document: https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript