It is not surprising to me at all. Here is why: In 1996 I became a Recruiter for the US Army. I had been in uniform for 15 years by then. The paperwork still had "THAT QUESTION" - (the one about being homosexual). We had to take a black marker and line all of that out on all four copies of the form. Thanks to Bill Clinton - this is when the shift started for the enlisted ranks, at least. I cannot speak for the officer ranks.
Thinking about all the places I served and all the people I served with - there was no disloyalty exhibited that I recall. But, the infiltration had started and not only was occurring in the push to "accept all" it was happening in the public schools and colleges all at the same time. It was not apparent to me until my child went off to college and became hateful, and disrespectful towards my veteran friends, and then, finally - no contact happened. I have not heard from him in over 4 years.
I guess as a young 18 year old I was just too patriotic to know any different. The Flag was precious - my oath was my truth, Reagan was my President and my Commander in Chief. It was a happy time.
Coming to the reality of what happened to my military, my family, and my country was not quick. I only learned all of this woke history because of GAW four years ago. Right after Jan 6, when my son told me he would not be in contact anymore -- I cried all over my keyboard - desperately searching for answers.
I have been here ever since.
Your Fren - the frog slowly boiled due to trust that everyone loves our beloved USA the way I do.
Red-pilled January 15-18, 2021
My wife and I are estranged from our 3 children (and our 5 grandchildren). You are not alone. Stay strong.
For me, when I see the world going downhill, I am very thankful that I have accepted Jesus as my personal Saviour. He is always there for me and I look forward to seeing Him face-to-face very soon.
I also was assigned to USAREC around that time (Nashville BN). Went on production Jan 1996. Found out REAL QUICK ... "the Army didnt issue you a family. Now, sign for your ridiculously high mission."
Sucks about your boy. Sorry to hear that. Liberal Universities are a fucking cancer on our society.
The irony is that when I was granted 100% Disability through the VA, my son got to go back to college under the VA Chapter 35 program to get his Master's degree. He chose Mary Washington which tore up everything good I had ever taught him.
After some consideration, I think I'll keep quiet on this, being a Nam vet.
Therefore, I'm old. And, having been what y'all call 'based' since long ago, well, not exactly that psyop term "boomer", probably my commentary wouldn't go over well.
However, what Trump et al are doing has been a long time coming.
First of all, it's necessary to understand Vietnam. The Nam wasn't some hogwash 'domino' thing about stopping communism: it was a diversion, pure and simple. LBJ NEEDED a diversion to distract from what he was doing in the US - 'the great society' bull that began the real division, destroyed inner cities and started the welfare generations.
We were never meant to win Nam; all you need to do is look at where AO was sprayed to see that. It was ALL south of dmz. No competent commander will intentionally go completely defensive - that's not a way to win. You attack the enemy, you don't place strategic targets off limits, and you don't allow the enemy to do whatever he wants. We could have finished that war, as one commander said, in two weeks if we wanted to, simply by dropping on Hanoi and following with the 84 and 101. Remove command, remove the enemy.
The tactics we employed did nothing more than piss off the "allied" SVN. There was precious little damage done in the north. Such garbage as bombing targeted rice paddies and jungle. We weren't even allowed to fly over strategic areas such as dumps. Some of us were CSAR (myself included); to go into NVA territory, we were forced to fly a corridor near Vinh; since the NVA knew we would, they had AA installations along that corridor.
Also, the military still had the draft; while there were some who were 'patriots' that volunteered because of God and country, there were many more who volunteered to get the service they wanted, under threat of draft. Some were 'he-men' who became Marines, other Marines were weenies that wanted to become men. Not being detrimental to the Jarheads, understand: many of my friends in service were Jarheads, and I'd put my life in their hands before any other service, generally speaking.
Anyone who went boots down there became convinced within a month or two that we weren't going to win. It's that simple.
Most Nam vets, to address the OP, would readily take up arms for this country - it's OUR country, dammit. There aren't many of us left to do that though, but most of us have a small armory and associated gear. We won't hump 90 lb all day, but I guarantee that whoever encounters one at arms would regret it, at least for a while. The viciousness of Nam jaded all of us, and taking an enemy life wouldn't mean shit. Nor would it matter if we had to remove some of the so-called 'law enforcement' that takes the wrong side. Most of us can still shoot pretty well; some can still go long, thousand yards or more. Some need powerful scopes, but still...
Do we support Trump/Q? Yes, in most cases, without doubt.
Do we know what is happening? Some of us do, those who have followed Q from start, and are willing to do the digs, draw conclusions.
Just keep in mind our numbers are small; last I saw, about 600,000 still live.
We are different from any vet beginning mid-1970s, since they are all volunteer. It has to be noted that the standards began deteriorating dramatically by 1978. Nam vets aren't the same.
I can't, in fairness, compare myself to any modern soldier/sailor; I went through training that was far beyond most, SEALs/SF included. Wont' go into that, save one fact: of over a hundred who volunteered for the HC-7 Big Mother detachment, five completed the courses; the rest were dropped. One was a PO2, and he went to Atsugi; there were three PO3 and one AN, all AX (antisub warfare techs) who had earned wings. Put another way: years after I got out, I encountered a Special Forces guy, SOG in Nam, blaster, many missions. We thought we recognized each other, and eventually he asked if I was a vet. I said yes, I was one of the Big Mothers (we did insertions/extractions also). This Beret backed away - "you f*ckers were crazy." Frankly, I hadn't understood for years what we actually did; I thought our purpose was to 'save lives', and it was, but what it took to do so was a bit over the edge.
I'm running on too much. I'll say one more thing: in the Nam groups I'm in, or was in, anyone who mouthed against Trump went through the wringer, and didn't make more comments.
I'm not surprised that the military contains officers that place political views ahead of their oath to uphold the Constitution. The DS has infiltrated every institution on earth, why would they ignore the US military? - the answer is they didn't. For decades, officers were evaluated and promoted based on their willingness to comply with the Left's sick ideology (LBGT, DEI, CRT, etc). Many of the TV 4-star Generals that Trump routinely disparages are products of this compliantocracy (word of the day).
Just like the DOJ, FBI, NSA and the CIA there is much work to be done to cleanup the branches of the military. I believe that this work is in progress and that Trump and those officers loyal to the Constitution know who most of the "bad apples" are. They will be removed one way or another.
I received this link today from Legal Insurrection and it's the first I've heard that the military might not be fully behind Trump. Does anyone have any insights on this article?
All Military will Honor their Commander in Chief. Officers that don't will be Court-Martialed and face JAG Prosecution and Judgement. If they wish to go through a version of the Nuremberg Trials it is up to them.
Considering some of the promotion corruption & degeneracy allowed to foment in the military; i.e. Kay Griggs testimony on you tube, I am not surprised.
https://youtu.be/4fdS5cdtPOA?si=bMqZo-2McJ5cqfDO
Well let’s see, they renamed bases, they allowed DEI and all sorts of sexual shit because the military was “too white”. Females. More females. White females, black females, all sorts of females. Our military should be only be Christian white men at all top ranks. Christian black men too maybe. There’s definitely some badass ones like Wesley Hunt. But get the women out of any top ranks! Same with government. They seem to bring utter destruction at all top levels.
It is not surprising to me at all. Here is why: In 1996 I became a Recruiter for the US Army. I had been in uniform for 15 years by then. The paperwork still had "THAT QUESTION" - (the one about being homosexual). We had to take a black marker and line all of that out on all four copies of the form. Thanks to Bill Clinton - this is when the shift started for the enlisted ranks, at least. I cannot speak for the officer ranks.
Thinking about all the places I served and all the people I served with - there was no disloyalty exhibited that I recall. But, the infiltration had started and not only was occurring in the push to "accept all" it was happening in the public schools and colleges all at the same time. It was not apparent to me until my child went off to college and became hateful, and disrespectful towards my veteran friends, and then, finally - no contact happened. I have not heard from him in over 4 years.
I guess as a young 18 year old I was just too patriotic to know any different. The Flag was precious - my oath was my truth, Reagan was my President and my Commander in Chief. It was a happy time.
Coming to the reality of what happened to my military, my family, and my country was not quick. I only learned all of this woke history because of GAW four years ago. Right after Jan 6, when my son told me he would not be in contact anymore -- I cried all over my keyboard - desperately searching for answers.
I have been here ever since.
Your Fren - the frog slowly boiled due to trust that everyone loves our beloved USA the way I do. Red-pilled January 15-18, 2021
My wife and I are estranged from our 3 children (and our 5 grandchildren). You are not alone. Stay strong.
For me, when I see the world going downhill, I am very thankful that I have accepted Jesus as my personal Saviour. He is always there for me and I look forward to seeing Him face-to-face very soon.
I'll join in your prayers for your child to return, wiser and kinder than before. 🙏
I also was assigned to USAREC around that time (Nashville BN). Went on production Jan 1996. Found out REAL QUICK ... "the Army didnt issue you a family. Now, sign for your ridiculously high mission."
Sucks about your boy. Sorry to hear that. Liberal Universities are a fucking cancer on our society.
The irony is that when I was granted 100% Disability through the VA, my son got to go back to college under the VA Chapter 35 program to get his Master's degree. He chose Mary Washington which tore up everything good I had ever taught him.
I have no clue how my son can do this to me.
After some consideration, I think I'll keep quiet on this, being a Nam vet. Therefore, I'm old. And, having been what y'all call 'based' since long ago, well, not exactly that psyop term "boomer", probably my commentary wouldn't go over well.
However, what Trump et al are doing has been a long time coming.
Welcome home, brother.
Thanks. Just help get this country back. That's all any of us wants.
Thank you and welcome home.
I am interested in your commentary.
see above make that below
I would love to hear more from the Vietnam vets.
First of all, it's necessary to understand Vietnam. The Nam wasn't some hogwash 'domino' thing about stopping communism: it was a diversion, pure and simple. LBJ NEEDED a diversion to distract from what he was doing in the US - 'the great society' bull that began the real division, destroyed inner cities and started the welfare generations. We were never meant to win Nam; all you need to do is look at where AO was sprayed to see that. It was ALL south of dmz. No competent commander will intentionally go completely defensive - that's not a way to win. You attack the enemy, you don't place strategic targets off limits, and you don't allow the enemy to do whatever he wants. We could have finished that war, as one commander said, in two weeks if we wanted to, simply by dropping on Hanoi and following with the 84 and 101. Remove command, remove the enemy. The tactics we employed did nothing more than piss off the "allied" SVN. There was precious little damage done in the north. Such garbage as bombing targeted rice paddies and jungle. We weren't even allowed to fly over strategic areas such as dumps. Some of us were CSAR (myself included); to go into NVA territory, we were forced to fly a corridor near Vinh; since the NVA knew we would, they had AA installations along that corridor. Also, the military still had the draft; while there were some who were 'patriots' that volunteered because of God and country, there were many more who volunteered to get the service they wanted, under threat of draft. Some were 'he-men' who became Marines, other Marines were weenies that wanted to become men. Not being detrimental to the Jarheads, understand: many of my friends in service were Jarheads, and I'd put my life in their hands before any other service, generally speaking. Anyone who went boots down there became convinced within a month or two that we weren't going to win. It's that simple. Most Nam vets, to address the OP, would readily take up arms for this country - it's OUR country, dammit. There aren't many of us left to do that though, but most of us have a small armory and associated gear. We won't hump 90 lb all day, but I guarantee that whoever encounters one at arms would regret it, at least for a while. The viciousness of Nam jaded all of us, and taking an enemy life wouldn't mean shit. Nor would it matter if we had to remove some of the so-called 'law enforcement' that takes the wrong side. Most of us can still shoot pretty well; some can still go long, thousand yards or more. Some need powerful scopes, but still...
Do we support Trump/Q? Yes, in most cases, without doubt. Do we know what is happening? Some of us do, those who have followed Q from start, and are willing to do the digs, draw conclusions.
Just keep in mind our numbers are small; last I saw, about 600,000 still live. We are different from any vet beginning mid-1970s, since they are all volunteer. It has to be noted that the standards began deteriorating dramatically by 1978. Nam vets aren't the same. I can't, in fairness, compare myself to any modern soldier/sailor; I went through training that was far beyond most, SEALs/SF included. Wont' go into that, save one fact: of over a hundred who volunteered for the HC-7 Big Mother detachment, five completed the courses; the rest were dropped. One was a PO2, and he went to Atsugi; there were three PO3 and one AN, all AX (antisub warfare techs) who had earned wings. Put another way: years after I got out, I encountered a Special Forces guy, SOG in Nam, blaster, many missions. We thought we recognized each other, and eventually he asked if I was a vet. I said yes, I was one of the Big Mothers (we did insertions/extractions also). This Beret backed away - "you f*ckers were crazy." Frankly, I hadn't understood for years what we actually did; I thought our purpose was to 'save lives', and it was, but what it took to do so was a bit over the edge. I'm running on too much. I'll say one more thing: in the Nam groups I'm in, or was in, anyone who mouthed against Trump went through the wringer, and didn't make more comments.
I am married to one of ya'll, I love my VN vets.
I'm not surprised that the military contains officers that place political views ahead of their oath to uphold the Constitution. The DS has infiltrated every institution on earth, why would they ignore the US military? - the answer is they didn't. For decades, officers were evaluated and promoted based on their willingness to comply with the Left's sick ideology (LBGT, DEI, CRT, etc). Many of the TV 4-star Generals that Trump routinely disparages are products of this compliantocracy (word of the day).
Just like the DOJ, FBI, NSA and the CIA there is much work to be done to cleanup the branches of the military. I believe that this work is in progress and that Trump and those officers loyal to the Constitution know who most of the "bad apples" are. They will be removed one way or another.
Obama purged the flag ranks.
And replaced them with fag ranks.
I received this link today from Legal Insurrection and it's the first I've heard that the military might not be fully behind Trump. Does anyone have any insights on this article?
" I received this link today from Legal Insurrection and it's the first I've heard that the military might not be fully behind Trump. "
...not everyone in the military are fans of the Great Orange Sultan...
...whether this sentiment is genuine or contrived/constructed has yet to be determined...
...I brush up against some old school warrior types and a few of them are grumbling...
...wags tail questioningly...
...strum on TNB Man...
ashlanddog:
🤔
"Be careful who you follow."
u/#q2737
""Be careful who you follow.""
...I follow Jesus...
...and The Bible is my operational manual...
...carry on...
So whats with the all new ridiculous usage of ellipsis? The 'Im a dog' thing wasnt getting enough attention anymore?
"So whats with the all new ridiculous usage of ellipsis? The 'Im a dog' thing wasnt getting enough attention anymore?"
...I tried being an asshole, but that only works for the more experienced...
...howls...
...carry on....
Follow the money.
Look at government contractors. Ratheon, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, etc.
All are staffed by former military and offer retirement board of directors positions to flag officers.
Retire Generals hire retired Colonels hire retired Lt. Colonel's hire retired Majors, etc.
Dishonorable discharge's should weed out obumas/bye-dones woke installments...
It just takes a couple to send a message. Then send the rest to the front lines.
All Military will Honor their Commander in Chief. Officers that don't will be Court-Martialed and face JAG Prosecution and Judgement. If they wish to go through a version of the Nuremberg Trials it is up to them.
Considering some of the promotion corruption & degeneracy allowed to foment in the military; i.e. Kay Griggs testimony on you tube, I am not surprised. https://youtu.be/4fdS5cdtPOA?si=bMqZo-2McJ5cqfDO
Well let’s see, they renamed bases, they allowed DEI and all sorts of sexual shit because the military was “too white”. Females. More females. White females, black females, all sorts of females. Our military should be only be Christian white men at all top ranks. Christian black men too maybe. There’s definitely some badass ones like Wesley Hunt. But get the women out of any top ranks! Same with government. They seem to bring utter destruction at all top levels.