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I just found some truly top kek: The Washington Independent, Feb. 1, 2022 - "The Idea Behind GreatAwakening.Win" (washingtonindependent.org)
posted 1 year ago by winn 1 year ago by winn +41 / -0
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– Archon69 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Kaspersky warns about WashingtonIndependent.org:

Prevented visiting a website that presents a data leakage threat

Prevented visiting a phishing or fake website designed to trick you into giving away your passwords, credit card details and other private data.

You were protected from visiting this website by Kaspersky security. You can close this window with no risk.

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– winn [S] 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Huh. Interesting. A WhoIs lookup says the domain was registered in 2024, yet this article says it's from 2022.

The domain was registered in Israel.

A wayback of the article only has something from 2024 https://web.archive.org/web/20240915000000*/https://washingtonindependent.org/greatawakening-win/

https://www.whois.com/whois/washingtonindependent.org

Looks like we may have ourselves a bonafied Israeli op. Totally fake and gay, probably AI generated articles (at least some portions of the article read like AI to me), and potential phishing website. I'll ask mods what should be done in this case. Thx for the heads up

The Domain Registrar is called Spaceship, inc

Spaceship is headquartered in Phoenix, Arizona, and can be contacted through their support email at [email protected].

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– FractalizingIron 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Good work.

Here's some anecdotal evidence that might be interpreted as indicating a fake disinfo (or other) operation.

TLDR: Conclusion: Fake website, using fake profiles, and probably AI generated stories. See "The real kicker" below to cut to the chase.


  • Articles in the archive (https://washingtonindependent.org/archive/page-2/) are dated back to July 31, 2020. There are 854 "pages' in the archive section.

  • All articles in the archives are dated July 31, 2020. (Sampled pages: page 2, page 5, page 10, page 50, page 100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 800, 854.

  • Articles cover stories, incidents events going back at least 2008.

  • I found 4 authors in the archive section:

Paolo Reyna

Camilo Wood

Dexter Cooke

Hajra Shannon

  • Their profile pictures appear to have no other web presence (tineye, google lens).

  • A web search of these individuals' details shows zero presence on the web

This, despite details in their profile blurbs which would indicate SOME web presence (university graduated, professions, years of 'experience', interests/topics, etc).

Example: Dexter Cooke. (This guy is a genius, apparently.)

Dexter Cooke is an economist, marketing strategist, and orthopedic surgeon with over 20 years of experience crafting compelling narratives that resonate worldwide.

He holds a Journalism degree from Columbia University, an Economics background from Yale University, and a medical degree with a postdoctoral fellowship in orthopedic medicine from the Medical University of South Carolina.

Dexter’s insights into media, economics, and marketing shine through his prolific contributions to respected publications and advisory roles for influential organizations.

As an orthopedic surgeon specializing in minimally invasive knee replacement surgery and laparoscopic procedures, Dexter prioritizes patient care above all.

Outside his professional pursuits, Dexter enjoys collecting vintage watches, studying ancient civilizations, learning about astronomy, and participating in charity runs.

But for some reason, he is no where on the web (linked-in? alumni?) despite being both an orthopedic surgeon, economist AND journalist. Jeepers.

Their archived articles have been very, very widely read (for a small independent mag) (sarcasm): Some of the archive articles have "millions" of views and lots of shares. This one,

https://washingtonindependent.org/97325/todays-primaries-a-final-test-for-tea-party-candidates/

has 901.2K Shares and 12.5M Views

(impressive!)

*Text string samples from articles that I tested via websearch did not show up anywhere (zero results). (Method: take a text strong of a suitable number of words and search with " " marks to isolate and see if the same strong is present anywhere in the search field.)


Authors / Reviewers of more recent articles yield a different result:

https://washingtonindependent.org/tsmcs-commitment-to-community-spurs-local-progress/

Author: Karan Emery Reviewer: Frazer Pugh

https://washingtonindependent.org/wp-content/uploads/authors/b5d596d710ca5c6a/karan-emery-360x360.webp

Indexed by Tineye on April 6, 2023

https://tineye.com/search/595ee12393003154c01940720d1430a34b428a51?sort=score&order=desc&page=1

Curiously, Tineye registers a link in relation to Emery: https://washingtonindependent.com/usui-reiki-ryoho-gakkai/

But this link forwards to this page: https://www.lucidpuzzle.com/usui-reiki-ryoho-gakkai/?utm_gclid=XAiFykAvBG79xnK6OFqTg22cXefCfY-O2p-aAcZZNCiTyu04gwb-elN8SJ8jifxts-9NsFmU-XN3M57mvYir3Q

(Cannot access page without guff following the ?)

Usui Reiki Ryoho Gakkai is the name of the link in both urls, but "usui" "reiki" is not present on the lucid puzzle page.

Question: why create that link a TWI? Who did it? TWI, or someone taking advantage of their web design?

Reviewer: Frazer Pugh

Tineye says first indexed October 20, 2014 BUT shows no other instances, and delivers a slew of "generated photos" that are similar.


Here is the real Kicker

Apparently (if I take Spencer Ackerman at face value) the Washington Independent did actually exist.

This Spencer Ackerman apparently wrote for it in its former life, and talks about how it is now a zombie.

"the Washington Independent, a liberal nonprofit experiment in substantive reporting online about politics, and the doomed media environment it represented. I worked there from 2008 to 2010...."

"On the zombie edition of the Washington Independent I discovered, the piece I had published more than ten years before was attributed to someone else...."

"Something today owns Washingtonindependent.com. It is graphically arraying itself to resemble journalism—specifically, to resemble the Washington Independent. Washingtonindependent.com, which I’m using to distinguish it from its namesake, offers recently published, article-like content that does not appear to me to have been produced by human beings. But, if you dig through its news archive, you can find work human beings definitely did produce...."

https://www.forever-wars.com/my-robotic-doppelganger-is-the-grim-face-of-journalisms-future/

An interesting read, it's basically where the trail leads, imo.

note: links to actual TWI stories that apparently once existed now appear to all redirect to the Lucid Puzzle page, where it should be noted, it looks like NONE of the articles or stories are even credited.

Kinda looks like skynet is making a move.


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– winn [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Awesome baton pass! The mods deleted this post (I reported it to see what they wanted to do) but perhaps another post can be made combining our replies while giving adequite warning about going to that website

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yes, I think so. Have the idea to at least post something about the approaches used (digging) because I think they are instructive. But new work has come in, so it may take a while, if even.

fwiw, the domain name and who is searches, etc, are a great departure point for putting together the data. Very often one of my go-to techniques. It was easy to follow on given the starting point you provided!

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– propertyofUniverse [M] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Taken down, just in case

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Just in case of ..... what, exactly?

Just asking for a fren.

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– propertyofUniverse [M] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Because the OP and a couple of others have doubts about the site.

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– FractalizingIron 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

PS. Thank you mod. Always.

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

.....

What doubts? winn expressed some concern that perhaps the OP had stumbled onto a deep state mossad psyop. I wondered if this was the reason you hid the post.

Did you read my dig on it, under winn?

It's a fake dodgy site, for sure, and the article is dodgy stuff, BUT because it relates directly to GAW, it's a relevant post, i think.

Also, the GAW post isn't asserting anything except anti-Q nonsense, so I don't think that disinfo is an issue.

The digs that are under it are high effort and a good example for frogs of GAW to read. (We do NOT see enough of high effort digs on ANY topic here. So much just blathering reactions and copy/pasting 'news'.)

The post and comments aren't exactly advocating the website either, so it's much more of a solid debunking than promotion of fake websites or disinfo stuff.

I would have thought the the comments under the post are highly instructive for all GAW frogs, especially those that don't really have any concept of digging.

My two cents.

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– DontTreadOnIT [M] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Several mods looked at this. We see your point, the content is intriguing. But is it potentially harmful as well? We can't be sure. It could be a way to log IPs or something. That's not in my wheelhouse but I can see the potential for malice. And given that there's nothing new here - we all know GAW is monitored - mods think it best not to send users to this very sus "news" site.

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– FractalizingIron 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Well, it's great to get the mods (several) perspective and input. Not difficult to accept the conclusion.

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– DontTreadOnIT [M] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Appreciate ya Frac

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– propertyofUniverse [M] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

I was in a hurry and playing it safe.

I'll get another opinion from the mod team.

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– FractalizingIron 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Thank you mod. Your service is of great value! Let no one tell you otherwise!

It's amazing that you get around to doing so much.

/ no sarc

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– propertyofUniverse [M] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

You're welcome of course, I've mentioned this post in the mod staffroom, they may think it's fine to re-instate this post.

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– FractalizingIron 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Thanks Props. Really happy to have a bunch of moddies take a considered look.

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– LoneWulf [M] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Just jumping in on the conversation...

I totally agree that this post has some excellent discussion going on. However, I have major concerns about links being included to the site in question. Had they not been included, I would not have had any objections to the post staying up. As a mod, though, it is our job to think of the best interests of the group, as a whole. Having seen anons do and try just about everything under the sun, it is inevitable that a few anons will attempt to visit this site. It's a tough call, but in light of the links being freely available, I think it is best not to repost this.

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– FractalizingIron 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Thank you Wulf. Having the multiple input really helps to make the decision based, (imo) and it also makes it both easier to embrace (by me) but also getting the mod perspectives helps me to expand my frame of reference.

One idea that popped into my head is to do a post that takes the techniques and strategies employed in the discussion, and write that up as a generic "how to...." in terms of verifying, identifying, approaching questionable websites (i.e. fake, not what they appear). A sort of debunking case study. This could be done without any specific reference to this or any other website, using unidentified examples.

That said, wow, this website is extremely dasting from a research perspective. After going through an examination from various angles, it was a little mind blowing to arrive at the dude who did a whole write up on it.

I'm not too saavy in the ways of web design or data theft, code manipulation, but I can understand that potential might exist here. So happy to defer to the modclusion. (That's "mods' conclusion". Coined, April 2025.)

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– Kensethfan2 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Global Rank: #25,145=17

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– Passthatwrench 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Paolo Has all the answers (sarc)

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