“Pope” francis just died, less than a day after VP Vance met with him and prayed “for [francis’] good health”.
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Popes have declared themselves the Vicar of Christ. (Vicar = “instead of” in Latin). They have also claimed “infallibility”.
Sauce: https://www.gotquestions.org/vicar-of-Christ.html
They pray to Mary as the “mother of God”, and pray to statues and saints (mere men), where is that in scripture?
LMAO your source is gotquestions? Nice one. Unironically quoting an anti Catholic website regarding Catholicism is like quoting Mossad shill Alex Jones to prove Q isn't real. Next time try reading what Catholics actually believe instead of what people CLAIM they believe.
Pray to statues? Nope. That's bullshit. Been a Catholic my whole life never seen or heard of anyone praying to a statue.
If you're expecting a scripture reference for every last thing Christians do you'll be looking for a while. But that being said there are scriptures that are interpreted this way by Catholics. David calls upon the angels in Psalm 103:20-21 as a prayer. The intercessory prayers of the saints are described in Revelation 5:8.
Jesus is God. Mary is the mother of Jesus. Therefore she is the mother of God. This isn't rocket science. Elizabeth calls her "the mother of my Lord" in Luke 1:43. In fact, the hail Mary itself comes primarily from Luke 1:28. Among the titles given to her by Catholics that Protestants despise is "queen of heaven" but the scriptural basis for said title is literally found when she is given a crown of stars in Revelation 12:1.
Papal infallibility is one that is aggressively misunderstood. Infallibility only applies when a Pope is speaking Ex Cathedra which has happened exactly once.
Jesus HIMSELF says that the church has the authority to "bind and loose" in Matthew 16:19. Sins can be forgiven by the apostles. Would this not make them His vicars? Furthermore, even Protestants use the term "vicar" including Anglicans.
This is supposed to be a research board. Do better research.
You proved my point right here. If your religion’s practices are not based on scripture then it’s a tradition…. Period.
Praying to Mary is real in Catholic practices.
Huh? what kind of gobblygook is this? Point me to the scripture where humans (I.e popes) are infallible (aka never wrong).
So infallibility is real, it happened in Catholicism. Claiming any human (except Jesus) as infallible in ANY circumstance is an error and implies sinlessness. It is anti-Christ.
Maybe you should research your own religion. It is the harlot mentioned in Revelation. It claims the power to change the Sabbath and change the 10 Commandments which were written by the hand of God Himself.
"You proved my point right here. If your religion’s practices are not based on scripture then it’s a tradition"
Picking and choosing what scripture to follow. Paul literally says that we should follow tradition in 2 Thessalonians 2:15. Sola Scriptura is not Biblical at all.
"what kind of gobblygook is this?"
Thanks for admitting you have zero idea what you are talking about. One of the Biblical arguments for the concept of ex cathedra infallibility is John 16:13. All papal infallibility means is that when the bishop of Rome is making statements that apply to all Catholic churches he can not be in err (see Matthew 16:18).
"Maybe you should research your own religion."
LOL you are the one who needs to research it, not me.
"It is the harlot mentioned in Revelation"
Who told you that? Jack Chick? Trust me pal, this isn't the first time I've heard the "whore of Babylon is the Catholic church" argument. There are problems with that, for one it's an interpretation that even all protestants don't subscribe to. Furthermore, the Vatican is not one of the seven hills of Babylon as described in Revelation 17:10. The seven hills of Rome are Palatine, Capitoline, Aventine, Caelian, Esquiline, Viminal, and Quirinal. That alone shoots that idea that the Vatican is the Babylon of Revelation (not the Roman empire which was clearly the implication in the text as it was written during the persecution of Domitian) in the foot. Furthermore, Revelation 18:3 clearly states that "the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries". This implies that it is a global commerce hub (again PAGAN Rome sure as hell not the Vatican which has zero export afaik)
"It claims the power to change the Sabbath"
Are you a Seventh Day Adventist by chance? The Catholics did not "change" the Sabbath. The Sabbath was not changed, it was replaced by the Lord's Day (Revelation 1:10) in Christian worship.
"change the 10 Commandments which were written by the hand of God Himself"
The commandments aren't bulleted in the text. You can count as many as 13 or even 14 commandments and as a result, Jews, Catholics AND protestants all number them differently. The Catholic numbering was based on Augustine's writings after he studied Deuteronomy closely. Protestants were the ones who altered the ten commandments to split the first commandment into two and then combined the last two into one so they could "own" the Catholics over "muh statues" (forgetting that God Himself commanded statues of living things to be made namely the snake in Numbers 21:8). Even the fucking LUTHERANS use the Catholic ten commandments. It was protestant reformer John Calvin who altered the commandments in 1545 because he was an iconoclast. The Catholics did not change the commandments, if anything, protestants did.
AGAIN, please do some actual historical research outside of a Chick Tract.
Oh. Lord have mercy.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw
And put aside the Commandments in the process?
Bless your heart.
I’d love your thoughts on what our Lord Jesus has to say about this subject: (w/o your condescending tone please)
Mark 7 5-13
5So the Pharisees and scribes questioned Jesus: “Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders? Instead, they eat with defiled hands.”
6Jesus answered them, “Isaiah prophesied correctly about you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 7They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’c 8You have disregarded the commandment of God to keep the tradition of men.d”
9He went on to say, “You neatly set aside the command of God to maintaine your own tradition. 10For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’f and ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’g 11But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, ‘Whatever you would have received from me is Corban’ (that is, a gift devoted to God), 12he is no longer permitted to do anything for his father or mother. 13Thus you nullify the word of God by the tradition you have handed down. And you do so in many such matters.”