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Pope cause of death story is not adding up
posted 18 days ago by _Donald-Trump_ 18 days ago by _Donald-Trump_ +34 / -1

AP says Vatican claims a stroke lead to heart failure which caused his death: this doesn’t make sense. Strokes don’t cause heart failure. Heart failure doesn’t just develop overnight either without a heart attack.

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– Mow-Lawn-Lah-Bay 8 points 18 days ago +8 / -0

Who cares how it happened.

Just as long as he's dead....

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– aslan_is_0n_the_m0ve 7 points 18 days ago +7 / -0

Did his contract expire. "Your services are no longer required."

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– ILoveIvermectin 6 points 18 days ago +6 / -0

Signed,

Humanity

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– GodzillaTrump 7 points 18 days ago +7 / -0

All I did was type into Bing "Can a stroke cause heart failure?" and the answer was a resounding yes.

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– _Donald-Trump_ [S] 4 points 18 days ago +4 / -0

I checked Grok AI.

A stroke, which is primarily a brain event caused by interrupted blood flow (ischemic) or bleeding (hemorrhagic), does not directly cause heart failure in the classical sense. Heart failure is typically a chronic condition where the heart cannot pump blood effectively, often due to conditions like coronary artery disease, hypertension, or cardiomyopathy. However, there are important connections and scenarios where a stroke and heart failure can be linked, which may explain any perceived association. Here’s a breakdown: Shared Risk Factors: Stroke and heart failure share common risk factors, such as hypertension, diabetes, atrial fibrillation, and atherosclerosis. For example, atrial fibrillation can lead to both embolic strokes (by forming clots that travel to the brain) and heart failure (due to inefficient heart pumping). A patient with these conditions might experience both issues, but the stroke itself isn’t causing the heart failure.

Cardioembolic Stroke and Heart Conditions: A stroke can be caused by a clot originating in the heart, often in the context of atrial fibrillation or a weakened heart (e.g., from prior heart failure or cardiomyopathy). In this case, heart failure might predate the stroke, and the stroke is a consequence of the heart’s impaired function, not the other way around.

Acute Stress Response (Takotsubo Cardiomyopathy): A stroke, particularly a severe one, can trigger a significant stress response, releasing catecholamines (stress hormones) that may temporarily impair heart function, resembling heart failure. This is sometimes seen in Takotsubo cardiomyopathy ("broken heart syndrome"), where emotional or physical stress (like a stroke) causes transient heart muscle dysfunction. While this can mimic heart failure symptoms, it’s usually reversible and not true chronic heart failure.

Post-Stroke Cardiovascular Complications: A large stroke can disrupt the autonomic nervous system, which regulates heart rate and blood pressure. This disruption might lead to arrhythmias, increased cardiac demand, or myocardial ischemia, particularly in patients with pre-existing heart disease. In rare cases, this could exacerbate or unmask heart failure in someone already at risk, but the stroke itself isn’t the direct cause—it’s more of a precipitating factor.

Medication and Treatment Effects: Treatments for stroke, such as aggressive blood pressure management or fluid therapy, could strain a compromised heart, potentially worsening or revealing heart failure in susceptible patients. However, this is an indirect effect.

Research Perspective: Studies show that stroke patients have a higher risk of cardiovascular events, including heart failure, post-stroke, but this is often due to shared underlying conditions or secondary effects. For instance, a 2019 study in Stroke noted that heart failure incidence is elevated after stroke, but this is largely attributed to pre-existing cardiovascular risk factors, not the stroke itself causing heart failure.

Conclusion: As a doctor, your skepticism is well-founded. A stroke does not directly cause heart failure, as they are distinct pathophysiological processes. However, they can be indirectly linked through shared risk factors, autonomic dysregulation, or acute stress responses like Takotsubo cardiomyopathy. In clinical practice, a patient presenting with both stroke and heart failure likely has underlying cardiovascular disease or risk factors contributing to both. If you encounter a case where stroke and heart failure seem related, consider investigating pre-existing heart conditions, autonomic effects, or stress-induced cardiomyopathy. If you have a specific case or context in mind, I can dig deeper or analyze relevant data (e.g., from web sources or X posts) to provide more tailored insights. Let me know!

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– cyberrigger 6 points 18 days ago +6 / -0

The Pope looked directly into the Stare

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– eel003 3 points 18 days ago +3 / -0

If the stroke happens anywhere near the brain stem it is possible as many autonomic body functions are processed there.

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– _Donald-Trump_ [S] 1 point 17 days ago +1 / -0

if the stroke happens near the brain stem he has way bigger problems than heart failure.

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– eel003 1 point 17 days ago +1 / -0

I know...it's how my father passed away...he never came out of it and in my father's case was gone in less then week despite some effort of his medical team in the ICU.

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– GimmeMemes 3 points 18 days ago +3 / -0

Cause of death: Pillow

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– Bibloop 3 points 18 days ago +3 / -0

It’s weird that I had a feeling he had to pass soon because we can’t wait another 2 months for Epstein files and he had to go first before April 22nd and the smiley sky on the 25th… all the dates are alligning

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– WeatheredCoat 2 points 18 days ago +2 / -0

Yandex when typing in "Can a stroke cause heart failure?" find sites saying no or inconclusive however if you survive stroke heart failure is higher.

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– JustinAthol 1 point 18 days ago +1 / -0

Pope John Paul I died mysteriously and no autopsy was performed. Francis death will be no different. We’ll see how long his successor will live.

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