I mean how big of an asshole do you have to think God is...to create sentient souls in his image, who must eat fat and protein every day; and to put delicious fat-and-protein vehicles running wild throughout the world that are easy to breed and grow to enormous size, a perpetual food supply for humankind; and then make it a SIN AGAINST HIS HOLY NAME for humans to eat them??
Whatever bearded middle Eastern male made that one up really crapped the bed IMHO:
Starving to death—okie dokie! You won't need food in heaven!
Eating pork—how dare you sin so, you hellbound hellion!
Isaiah 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
Deuteronomy 14:3 Do not eat any detestable thing.
Two of the most stoutly defended false dogmas of modern Christianity are that it is a-ok super-okie-dokie to eat pork and shellfish, and that we must obey the governing authorities no matter what they say unless they very explicitly tell us to kneel before something they call Ba’al and very explicitly worship it, especially with regard to paying taxes, even though they use them to fund baby sacrifices for Moloch. Liars being famously known to be very transparent about their lies.
I don’t agree with everything the Muslims say downstream of not eating pork, but don’t disagree that we shouldn’t do it, and prefer to defend that position from a secular standpoint, because Paul is so mistaught (imo).
u/Winn and I are going back and forth on this elsewhere. 😁
It's fine that you and others avoid pork and shellfish because some anon(s) in the middle East thousands and thousands of years ago noticed folks getting sick from consuming undercooked samples and wrote down a rule forbidding it. That just leaves more bacon, shrimp and crab for me! :)
Yeah, I don’t condemn anyone for it, or think it’s necessarily a one way ticket out of Heaven, just think that it practically leads to better health and religiously is requested of us by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to be faithful. My bigger beef (badum-psh!) is more with the church for teaching we can and should ignore it now.
Lots of people disagree with me though, and that’s fine. By your last note if we didn’t eat so much, we’d also have more around for Bacon Armor. Really digging that idea.
Funny enough that you mention it, I’ve had a lot more trouble talking people out of eating pork than shrimp. A lot. Nobody wants to give up pork. I don’t get it. Even when I used to eat them both, I never thought that much of pork, but loved shellfish. Maybe my body was trying to tell me it needed more mercury and chitin.
And then camp out in the left lane doing exactly the speed limit because it deserves to be in the left lane?
Or...camp out in the left lane and then pace the car in the right lane for like 30 agonizing miles while and endless line of drivers behind it lose their minds and contemplate suicide?
I think my bigger issue is that the church has thrown out the entire Old Testament, except as a nice collection of stories.
Can pretty much get rid of the Bible and carry around a nice embossed postcard at that point. Meanwhile, the same principle being used to justify eating pork, which is called an abomination, is the same principle being used to move on to justifying sodomy now, another abomination, and … nobody sees it. Curses of being ruled by our women and cut off from our people… as was promised.
I’m really eager for the “Greater things than these”, but it won’t be seen (at least not often) while everyone keeps going around defiling their temples like a bunch of Greeks.
Let’s start obeying our way out of the curses and back into the blessings sections!
I’m trying to start with me on my own lingering issues.
Yes... the OT isn't just for the juice...There are many keys within it... especially of you don't take everything literally.
The "Greater things than these" comes into play (assuming you mean John 14:12)...I believe, is pointing to the communion of you and the Christ in the temple built without human hands... and ultimately, communion with the Supreme Being. It's wonderful. Very, very, very few will allow themselves to experience this. This is exactly what Christ pointed to... but billions are reserved to believe, instead of know... and no church will explain how to achieve this.
This is the distinction between belief and experiential knowledge. This is the part where those who call themselves religious, dwell in ego; never escaping the confines of the normal mind, so concerned about "being right", being judgemental about what is written in the book, which book is the right one and taking everything literally...
To most, your reward is in "heaven" after you physically die... Even though, Christ said that the Kingdom of heaven is within you ... not on a planet somewhere that God allegedly lives. This nonsense is preached to people when they are 6 years old... and they never go back and evaluate if it is true or not... Most think they know this to be true, because all the parrots confirm it - their entire life...so it MUST be true, right? It's all second hand information that requires belief.
Knowing the real truth, can only be achieved by going within and silencing the mind. Then through Christ can you know God. Directly. Without whisper down the lane... and know, not believe, that you are truly eternal. The truth will literally, set you free...
Man, if the SBC or Catholic Church were either one worth anything, especially given their teaching that pork is perfectly fine, they would have Christians all around the world wrap themselves in baconized armor and enter mosques in groups of 50+ to… I don’t know what step 2 should be, but step 1 is definitely bacon armor.
I mean how big of an asshole do you have to think God is...to create sentient souls in his image, who must eat fat and protein every day; and to put delicious fat-and-protein vehicles running wild throughout the world that are easy to breed and grow to enormous size, a perpetual food supply for humankind; and then make it a SIN AGAINST HIS HOLY NAME for humans to eat them??
Whatever bearded middle Eastern male made that one up really crapped the bed IMHO:
Starving to death—okie dokie! You won't need food in heaven!
Eating pork—how dare you sin so, you hellbound hellion!
Isaiah 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
Deuteronomy 14:3 Do not eat any detestable thing.
Two of the most stoutly defended false dogmas of modern Christianity are that it is a-ok super-okie-dokie to eat pork and shellfish, and that we must obey the governing authorities no matter what they say unless they very explicitly tell us to kneel before something they call Ba’al and very explicitly worship it, especially with regard to paying taxes, even though they use them to fund baby sacrifices for Moloch. Liars being famously known to be very transparent about their lies.
I don’t agree with everything the Muslims say downstream of not eating pork, but don’t disagree that we shouldn’t do it, and prefer to defend that position from a secular standpoint, because Paul is so mistaught (imo).
u/Winn and I are going back and forth on this elsewhere. 😁
It's fine that you and others avoid pork and shellfish because some anon(s) in the middle East thousands and thousands of years ago noticed folks getting sick from consuming undercooked samples and wrote down a rule forbidding it. That just leaves more bacon, shrimp and crab for me! :)
Yeah, I don’t condemn anyone for it, or think it’s necessarily a one way ticket out of Heaven, just think that it practically leads to better health and religiously is requested of us by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to be faithful. My bigger beef (badum-psh!) is more with the church for teaching we can and should ignore it now.
Lots of people disagree with me though, and that’s fine. By your last note if we didn’t eat so much, we’d also have more around for Bacon Armor. Really digging that idea.
Funny enough that you mention it, I’ve had a lot more trouble talking people out of eating pork than shrimp. A lot. Nobody wants to give up pork. I don’t get it. Even when I used to eat them both, I never thought that much of pork, but loved shellfish. Maybe my body was trying to tell me it needed more mercury and chitin.
Good comment, but this one is really referring to broccoli...
Oh no, the broccoli thing is referring to detestable haircuts.
For eating, just slap cheese on it. It saves cauliflower, and broccoli is way better than that blanched lashing.
Or we could go the simpler way and agree that brussel sprouts violate all sorts of international treaties
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"Oh Jesus changed all that"
Nope...SURE DIDN'T!!!
Jesus would never sit at your table and eat your swine, shellfish or even a cheeseburger.
If you think otherwise, you are greatly mistaken!
Personally, I don't care if you dig on the swine, the crawfish boils, neverending shrimp...I love you all no matter what.
I mean there is a reason the dietary protocols are there... these creatures are meant to clean up the filth...
But... don't go preaching throwing cherry picked scripture around if you're not going to follow the same laws Jesus did. It's so hypocritical...
Alright...had to get that out right quick. I gotta get those bacon cheeseburgers going...😆😆😆
+3/-3
Bubble dropped this bomb today.
https://greatawakening.win/p/19BGcrM5aD/x/c/4eSmVKZ82ra
It’s all connected.
Hm. If we stay “thinking”, the AI is gonna pass us.
And then camp out in the left lane doing exactly the speed limit because it deserves to be in the left lane?
Or...camp out in the left lane and then pace the car in the right lane for like 30 agonizing miles while and endless line of drivers behind it lose their minds and contemplate suicide?
Just pretend you're driving I95 in Virginia...
I think my bigger issue is that the church has thrown out the entire Old Testament, except as a nice collection of stories.
Can pretty much get rid of the Bible and carry around a nice embossed postcard at that point. Meanwhile, the same principle being used to justify eating pork, which is called an abomination, is the same principle being used to move on to justifying sodomy now, another abomination, and … nobody sees it. Curses of being ruled by our women and cut off from our people… as was promised.
I’m really eager for the “Greater things than these”, but it won’t be seen (at least not often) while everyone keeps going around defiling their temples like a bunch of Greeks.
Let’s start obeying our way out of the curses and back into the blessings sections!
I’m trying to start with me on my own lingering issues.
Yes... the OT isn't just for the juice...There are many keys within it... especially of you don't take everything literally.
The "Greater things than these" comes into play (assuming you mean John 14:12)...I believe, is pointing to the communion of you and the Christ in the temple built without human hands... and ultimately, communion with the Supreme Being. It's wonderful. Very, very, very few will allow themselves to experience this. This is exactly what Christ pointed to... but billions are reserved to believe, instead of know... and no church will explain how to achieve this.
This is the distinction between belief and experiential knowledge. This is the part where those who call themselves religious, dwell in ego; never escaping the confines of the normal mind, so concerned about "being right", being judgemental about what is written in the book, which book is the right one and taking everything literally...
To most, your reward is in "heaven" after you physically die... Even though, Christ said that the Kingdom of heaven is within you ... not on a planet somewhere that God allegedly lives. This nonsense is preached to people when they are 6 years old... and they never go back and evaluate if it is true or not... Most think they know this to be true, because all the parrots confirm it - their entire life...so it MUST be true, right? It's all second hand information that requires belief.
Knowing the real truth, can only be achieved by going within and silencing the mind. Then through Christ can you know God. Directly. Without whisper down the lane... and know, not believe, that you are truly eternal. The truth will literally, set you free...
Man, if the SBC or Catholic Church were either one worth anything, especially given their teaching that pork is perfectly fine, they would have Christians all around the world wrap themselves in baconized armor and enter mosques in groups of 50+ to… I don’t know what step 2 should be, but step 1 is definitely bacon armor.
Beer fountains, step 2?