Nothing. At this level, it has almost no energy, and it takes Herculean effort to even make it happen. The slightest failure anywhere and the plasma will touch the walls and cool out.
No physical possibility. The whole more-than-half-century history of contained nuclear fusion is a story of the difficulty in even making it happen. Now, we can barely make it happen. So far, it has always taken more energy to make it happen than we have obtained from it.
Realize what they are saying: something the size and 4 times the weight of a locomotive (800 tons), requiring assembly tolerances of a Swiss watch. This is going to be inexpensive, right?
And they continue to repeat the ignorant bullshit lie that there will be no radioactive waste, when everyone knows the flux of 14 MeV neutrons will convert the first structural wall of the reactor into radioactive waste over time, requiring periodic replacement.
For 50 years, i have said magnetism is The key for clean energy, self propelling cars and on and on. The problem is 'they' can not make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on it.
Never gonna work... the first DEI hire that touches it , is gonna break it permanently cause they don't know what they are doing ... then you're going to have a real mess.
What "clean energy"? The fusion reaction releases the vast majority of its energy in the form of 14 MeV neutrons, which irradiate the "first wall" of the containment structure (usually made of steel) and turns it into radioactive waste. It must be replaced on a regular basis. Things the fusion fad proponents (always 30 years away) won't tell the public...because it is a "detail." This has only been known for half a century.
Oh, the money has been spent on the legitimate stuff. It's just that it is a waste of time and money. Virtue signalling and a way to bribe the science community. Or, a demonstration of how scientific mystification can impress the scientifically illiterate. "I can't understand it...so it must be profound, and therefore important."
Hmm, don't robots spring from the "science community"? Are you on the receiving end of some of those "legitimate" bribes?
You're right about the signalling though. It's "virtually" all signaling. Weird how robots always wanna use the British accents and spelling. Sorta pretentious dontcha think?
Anyhoo, signal received. 14 MeV on the steel in 30 years. Gotcha. 😉
You don't know? Mostly, robots (autonomous systems) sprang from the defense industry (guided missiles). Then, automatic behavior became commercially exploitable, and you have vendors (e.g., Boston Dynamics) making big strides. The pure science folks like to dream about artificial intelligence, but some of their thinking is not first rate (I am in mind of Roger Penrose, who made an impossible conjecture as the basis of a thought experiment). I have always been in industry, working for honest wages, and sometimes saving the government some money.
I'm not aware that robots "always use the British accents and spelling." The robots that call me have very unpolished accents and seem to specialize in murmuring (but they are using human beings for their voicebox). It is an attempt to simulate an educated mind, when you really have a toaster made in Shropshire. Yes, pretentious.
It's been 30 years in future for the past 50 years, if that gives any hint. I stopped holding my breath when that was imparted to me 50 years ago, and I started understanding the basic problems. Sadly, all this focus on Fusion the Ideal Power Source has stood in the way of Fission the Real Power Source. There is so much uranium and thorium, we have millennia of power available to us, not counting the uranium dissolved in seawater. I would say it can buy us time to figure out something even better.
But don't beam the power for distribution. That is incredibly dangerous---or you need huge transmission systems to make them safe. Electricity is immeasurably safer and more compact.
Maybe you're right. I guess it's just the Hollywood robots with the pretensions. Although that Penrose dude is a Brit and I suspect all that fancy physics is just as fake an an AutoPen signature.
You're probably also right about robots coming more from industry than science, especially the control laws and the guidance systems. But why do killer spacebots always wanna talk about missiles and other things that go BOOM. What, do you work for Raytheon or something? How'd you survive the jab mandate? Did the honest hard working robots get a free pass? The humans didn't.
Not my luck to run into any smarmy robots. Penrose is mostly a mathematician. I was reading a book by him on artificial intelligence, and he got into a discussion about the Turing test and how we might or might not determine that an A.I. was intelligent---and postulated, "Let's suppose we have a paper tape program infinitely long..." At which point, I finished the sentence with, "And then the fucking universe would be filled entirely with paper," and put the book on the shelf. I haven't opened it since.
Missiles with inertial guidance are probably the first example of autonomous behavior. Once you let it go, there is no bringing it back, and it is terribly important that it go where it is supposed to go. I talk about these things because there is a long-standing database and continuing challenge. I worked for Boeing, home of the Minuteman, the SRAM, the ALCM, the Inertial Upper Stage, etc. We developed the world's first solid-propellant three-axis-stabilized kinetic energy projectile. I worked on target discrimination algorithms. I don't recall any mandate at work, but it was immaterial to me, since I was retired by then.
I don't understand the meaning of your concluding remarks about robots getting a free pass. They are not biological. Lots of people did not get a free pass. What am I supposed to take from that? I didn't agree with it.
I'm not so sure about your paper tape analysis. If the universe is truly infinite then it has plenty of space to hold an infinite amount of infinite things. So an infinitely long paper tape would would not necessarily fill it up. Not even close. Do the math. Your reasoning on the subject seems more emotional than logical so you're clearly not a killerspacerobot. Maybe you should switch to killerspacerobotmaker?
Anyhow, what do you think of Penrose tiles? I sorta like em. Does topology have a place in target discrimination algorithms? I find it strangely fascinating. https://www.goldennumber.net/penrose-tiling/
A mini-sun on earth? What could go wrong? 🙄
A return to Fusion/Fission reactors is probably a good idea. I do like plenty of failsafes, to be sure.
Exploding by extreme combustion isn’t high on my list of to-do’s, though it sure beats some other more prolonged methods of going out!
I guess that's better than trying to create black holes, which I found quite conCERNing!
🎯 😄
Probably the reason it is being built in France. Kek
Any time, fren. 😂
(Some day you'll thank me for pointing this out.) 😛
No explosion. Just a fizzle. The plasma would go "poof."
Nothing. At this level, it has almost no energy, and it takes Herculean effort to even make it happen. The slightest failure anywhere and the plasma will touch the walls and cool out.
Some good news on the Horizon.
Now you know why I don't get invited to parties. Kek.
No physical possibility. The whole more-than-half-century history of contained nuclear fusion is a story of the difficulty in even making it happen. Now, we can barely make it happen. So far, it has always taken more energy to make it happen than we have obtained from it.
I think it's sort of ironic that with all this tech and investment, what we end up with is a fusion powered steam engine.
Realize what they are saying: something the size and 4 times the weight of a locomotive (800 tons), requiring assembly tolerances of a Swiss watch. This is going to be inexpensive, right?
And they continue to repeat the ignorant bullshit lie that there will be no radioactive waste, when everyone knows the flux of 14 MeV neutrons will convert the first structural wall of the reactor into radioactive waste over time, requiring periodic replacement.
It'll rust by the time they actually get close to finishing that project FFS ... it's been decades by now
For 50 years, i have said magnetism is The key for clean energy, self propelling cars and on and on. The problem is 'they' can not make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ on it.
Imagine a 'force' that does not Use energy?
Fusion has been the wave of the future for the past fifty years,
Never gonna work... the first DEI hire that touches it , is gonna break it permanently cause they don't know what they are doing ... then you're going to have a real mess.
We’re gonna need some itty bitty little planets to keep it company. What if we’re just floating around in some power plant somewhere?
Well, thats some money laundering scam. Steven B. Krivet would like a word.
Here it is. He got the ITER scientists to admit that ITER was a scam and still these muppets double down. Please read this carefully.
https://files.catbox.moe/gx4jjf.pdf
You didn't read it did you? It proves that the energy input is greater than the output. Block away, its your choice.
Lets turn the earth into a star to save on winter heating costs.
It's just a small spot. We never turned Earth into a campfire.
Why can’t we have nice things in the USA?
What "clean energy"? The fusion reaction releases the vast majority of its energy in the form of 14 MeV neutrons, which irradiate the "first wall" of the containment structure (usually made of steel) and turns it into radioactive waste. It must be replaced on a regular basis. Things the fusion fad proponents (always 30 years away) won't tell the public...because it is a "detail." This has only been known for half a century.
Looks like the drum of a giant washing machine. I think the only thing clean coming outta that is the laundered money.
Oh, the money has been spent on the legitimate stuff. It's just that it is a waste of time and money. Virtue signalling and a way to bribe the science community. Or, a demonstration of how scientific mystification can impress the scientifically illiterate. "I can't understand it...so it must be profound, and therefore important."
Hmm, don't robots spring from the "science community"? Are you on the receiving end of some of those "legitimate" bribes?
You're right about the signalling though. It's "virtually" all signaling. Weird how robots always wanna use the British accents and spelling. Sorta pretentious dontcha think?
Anyhoo, signal received. 14 MeV on the steel in 30 years. Gotcha. 😉
You don't know? Mostly, robots (autonomous systems) sprang from the defense industry (guided missiles). Then, automatic behavior became commercially exploitable, and you have vendors (e.g., Boston Dynamics) making big strides. The pure science folks like to dream about artificial intelligence, but some of their thinking is not first rate (I am in mind of Roger Penrose, who made an impossible conjecture as the basis of a thought experiment). I have always been in industry, working for honest wages, and sometimes saving the government some money.
I'm not aware that robots "always use the British accents and spelling." The robots that call me have very unpolished accents and seem to specialize in murmuring (but they are using human beings for their voicebox). It is an attempt to simulate an educated mind, when you really have a toaster made in Shropshire. Yes, pretentious.
It's been 30 years in future for the past 50 years, if that gives any hint. I stopped holding my breath when that was imparted to me 50 years ago, and I started understanding the basic problems. Sadly, all this focus on Fusion the Ideal Power Source has stood in the way of Fission the Real Power Source. There is so much uranium and thorium, we have millennia of power available to us, not counting the uranium dissolved in seawater. I would say it can buy us time to figure out something even better.
But don't beam the power for distribution. That is incredibly dangerous---or you need huge transmission systems to make them safe. Electricity is immeasurably safer and more compact.
Maybe you're right. I guess it's just the Hollywood robots with the pretensions. Although that Penrose dude is a Brit and I suspect all that fancy physics is just as fake an an AutoPen signature.
You're probably also right about robots coming more from industry than science, especially the control laws and the guidance systems. But why do killer spacebots always wanna talk about missiles and other things that go BOOM. What, do you work for Raytheon or something? How'd you survive the jab mandate? Did the honest hard working robots get a free pass? The humans didn't.
Not my luck to run into any smarmy robots. Penrose is mostly a mathematician. I was reading a book by him on artificial intelligence, and he got into a discussion about the Turing test and how we might or might not determine that an A.I. was intelligent---and postulated, "Let's suppose we have a paper tape program infinitely long..." At which point, I finished the sentence with, "And then the fucking universe would be filled entirely with paper," and put the book on the shelf. I haven't opened it since.
Missiles with inertial guidance are probably the first example of autonomous behavior. Once you let it go, there is no bringing it back, and it is terribly important that it go where it is supposed to go. I talk about these things because there is a long-standing database and continuing challenge. I worked for Boeing, home of the Minuteman, the SRAM, the ALCM, the Inertial Upper Stage, etc. We developed the world's first solid-propellant three-axis-stabilized kinetic energy projectile. I worked on target discrimination algorithms. I don't recall any mandate at work, but it was immaterial to me, since I was retired by then.
I don't understand the meaning of your concluding remarks about robots getting a free pass. They are not biological. Lots of people did not get a free pass. What am I supposed to take from that? I didn't agree with it.
I'm not so sure about your paper tape analysis. If the universe is truly infinite then it has plenty of space to hold an infinite amount of infinite things. So an infinitely long paper tape would would not necessarily fill it up. Not even close. Do the math. Your reasoning on the subject seems more emotional than logical so you're clearly not a killerspacerobot. Maybe you should switch to killerspacerobotmaker?
Anyhow, what do you think of Penrose tiles? I sorta like em. Does topology have a place in target discrimination algorithms? I find it strangely fascinating. https://www.goldennumber.net/penrose-tiling/