Many of our churches need to clean house. It's the reason a lot of good Christians abandoned them. Perhaps what we need to do is go back to the way they worshipped in the early days of the church -- gathered in each other's houses.
Excellent point. I'm a man of faith and believer in God. Lost my trust in organized religion (churches) a long time ago. Yes, they need to "clean house." Churches seem to be run like businesses anymore. I keep my faith between me and my God, eliminating the middle man (churches) who only seem to want to capitalize on the relationship.
Years ago I discovered that the denomination of the church I went to supported rebel soldiers in a foreign country with the donations that were given for mission work.
Later, the church I attended hired a new pastor who greatly increased the size of the congregation...until it was discovered that he was picking up men at a local bar and bringing them back to the parsonage. The congregation found this out after his wife left and divorced him.
The ones you look up to the most are the ones that let you down, so it would seem.
If I told you who and what "God" was, you wouldn't trust me either.
Look at who you do trust. The Vatican's definitions and interpretations, passed down by the blind leading the blind for the past 1700 years. Otherwise known as the "cabal". They are responsible for mainstream Christian understanding. The same gang that runs the banking, government, military, media, legal and educational systems.
Do you disagree? Do you think the cabal controls and has controlled all these other institutions but somehow hasn't gotten their mitts on religious institutions as well?
That will probably happen organically out of necessity at some point.
I recommend watching The Story Keepers. It’s a cartoon, but gives a good idea of the situation. Is The Chosen from the same time period? I haven’t made time to see it yet.
Agreed, but before "the church" (circa 325 AD). Unfortunately, most Christians are steeped in the cabal (Roman) ideas, meanings, definitions, interpretations that have been deceitfully spread to the masses.
As a simple example, expressed by the OP, the "sabbath" is a lesson in "creation". "Creation" occurs in our imagination. The "day of rest" is in relaxing and knowing what you have imagined will come to pass as you wish. This is the "esoteric" meaning of the sabbath.
But 99% of practicing Christians won't even entertain the esoteric teachings. They, like all people, have been profoundly programmed to reject any suggestion that their preferred belief system has been debauched by the controlling cabal.
Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, materialists, republicans, democrats alike. All are locked into the cabal-generated dogma and can't see the forest for the trees.
It seems it's next to impossible to snap people out of this brainwashing until they can come to grips with the fact that everything in the mainstream, popular domain has been altered and debauched by the cabal. Their hands aren't just in government, or banking, or the legal system, or universities, or media. As many people now accept --- TO A DEGREE -- on this board.
The brainwashing starts in nursery school and Sunday school alike.
Can you really believe the cabal would allow "the truth" to be freely and openly expressed and taught in publicly accessible venues? Especially when it comes to spirituality and religion. These are the PRIMARY institutions they must debauch and control.
The controlling cabal was not allowed to completely deny earnest truth-seeking humans from the truth. Historically, these humans ended up in monasteries, abbeys, heritages, ashrams, mountain tops, mystery schools, etc. These were the places where historically truth could be quietly shared and discussed.
Things have changed since 1888 however. The truth was finally allowed to be openly discussed, by divine dispensation no less. But the power of the cabal to brainwash and control the public discussion continues to hold sway with the masses. This is changing fast and more and more people are snapping out of "going along to get along", but we're still a ways away from mainstream Christians willingness to entertain and contemplate the esoteric teachings, which have been around since time immemorial.
🤯 to this part..... > The controlling cabal was not allowed to completely deny earnest truth-seeking humans from the truth. Historically, these humans ended up in monasteries, abbeys, heritages, ashrams, mountain tops, mystery schools, etc. These were the places where historically truth could be quietly shared and discussed.>
Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, materialists, republicans, democrats alike. All are locked into the cabal-generated dogma and can't see the forest for the trees.>
I remember sitting in my college world religions class and coming to this realization. I blows my mind that others have a difficult time seeing it.
Thanks again fren for your role in this awakening. I appreciate all your comments and desire to share truth. I’m stalking your comments so I can read some good threads. 😂
Thanks again fren for your role in this awakening. I appreciate all your comments and desire to share truth. I’m stalking your comments so I can read some good threads
Much appreciated. Glad to have you hear as well, upvoting even my most controversial and aggravating comments!! hahaha
I remember sitting in my college world religions class and coming to this realization. I blows my mind that others have a difficult time seeing it.
"Safety in numbers" explains it pretty well. Some of us didn't have that program installed, or were able to avoid it in our consciousness. The irony is, all these mainstream religious traditions contain all the "pointers to truth" that would ever be needed. But the cabal's popularized renditions of them all point in the opposite direction!
You're making a difference here too, and I appreciate all your kind words! Our numbers will grow, leaps and bounds in the not-too-distant future. You can bank on it!
Many of our churches need to clean house. It's the reason a lot of good Christians abandoned them. Perhaps what we need to do is go back to the way they worshipped in the early days of the church -- gathered in each other's houses.
Excellent point. I'm a man of faith and believer in God. Lost my trust in organized religion (churches) a long time ago. Yes, they need to "clean house." Churches seem to be run like businesses anymore. I keep my faith between me and my God, eliminating the middle man (churches) who only seem to want to capitalize on the relationship.
Years ago I discovered that the denomination of the church I went to supported rebel soldiers in a foreign country with the donations that were given for mission work.
Later, the church I attended hired a new pastor who greatly increased the size of the congregation...until it was discovered that he was picking up men at a local bar and bringing them back to the parsonage. The congregation found this out after his wife left and divorced him.
The ones you look up to the most are the ones that let you down, so it would seem.
Exactly why I refuse to attend. I don't "look up" to any man of the cloth, only God. There have been too many wake up calls:
Priests/Pastors preying on the young/vulnerable.
Former MLB player Ben Zobrist. Look him up. In a nutshell, a man of faith (Zobrist) who's wife had an affair with his pastor/advisor.
This guy
And this guy
And this guy
The list is endless
"Those you are taught to trust the most."
-- Q
If I told you who and what "God" was, you wouldn't trust me either.
Look at who you do trust. The Vatican's definitions and interpretations, passed down by the blind leading the blind for the past 1700 years. Otherwise known as the "cabal". They are responsible for mainstream Christian understanding. The same gang that runs the banking, government, military, media, legal and educational systems.
Do you disagree? Do you think the cabal controls and has controlled all these other institutions but somehow hasn't gotten their mitts on religious institutions as well?
That will probably happen organically out of necessity at some point.
I recommend watching The Story Keepers. It’s a cartoon, but gives a good idea of the situation. Is The Chosen from the same time period? I haven’t made time to see it yet.
Agreed, but before "the church" (circa 325 AD). Unfortunately, most Christians are steeped in the cabal (Roman) ideas, meanings, definitions, interpretations that have been deceitfully spread to the masses.
As a simple example, expressed by the OP, the "sabbath" is a lesson in "creation". "Creation" occurs in our imagination. The "day of rest" is in relaxing and knowing what you have imagined will come to pass as you wish. This is the "esoteric" meaning of the sabbath.
But 99% of practicing Christians won't even entertain the esoteric teachings. They, like all people, have been profoundly programmed to reject any suggestion that their preferred belief system has been debauched by the controlling cabal.
Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, materialists, republicans, democrats alike. All are locked into the cabal-generated dogma and can't see the forest for the trees.
It seems it's next to impossible to snap people out of this brainwashing until they can come to grips with the fact that everything in the mainstream, popular domain has been altered and debauched by the cabal. Their hands aren't just in government, or banking, or the legal system, or universities, or media. As many people now accept --- TO A DEGREE -- on this board.
The brainwashing starts in nursery school and Sunday school alike.
Can you really believe the cabal would allow "the truth" to be freely and openly expressed and taught in publicly accessible venues? Especially when it comes to spirituality and religion. These are the PRIMARY institutions they must debauch and control.
The controlling cabal was not allowed to completely deny earnest truth-seeking humans from the truth. Historically, these humans ended up in monasteries, abbeys, heritages, ashrams, mountain tops, mystery schools, etc. These were the places where historically truth could be quietly shared and discussed.
Things have changed since 1888 however. The truth was finally allowed to be openly discussed, by divine dispensation no less. But the power of the cabal to brainwash and control the public discussion continues to hold sway with the masses. This is changing fast and more and more people are snapping out of "going along to get along", but we're still a ways away from mainstream Christians willingness to entertain and contemplate the esoteric teachings, which have been around since time immemorial.
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🤯 to this part..... > The controlling cabal was not allowed to completely deny earnest truth-seeking humans from the truth. Historically, these humans ended up in monasteries, abbeys, heritages, ashrams, mountain tops, mystery schools, etc. These were the places where historically truth could be quietly shared and discussed.>
I remember sitting in my college world religions class and coming to this realization. I blows my mind that others have a difficult time seeing it.
Thanks again fren for your role in this awakening. I appreciate all your comments and desire to share truth. I’m stalking your comments so I can read some good threads. 😂
Much appreciated. Glad to have you hear as well, upvoting even my most controversial and aggravating comments!! hahaha
"Safety in numbers" explains it pretty well. Some of us didn't have that program installed, or were able to avoid it in our consciousness. The irony is, all these mainstream religious traditions contain all the "pointers to truth" that would ever be needed. But the cabal's popularized renditions of them all point in the opposite direction!
You're making a difference here too, and I appreciate all your kind words! Our numbers will grow, leaps and bounds in the not-too-distant future. You can bank on it!