I did not like her throwing the devil horns or Ben Shapiro moving in before the burrial. But my point to post is this :
Charlie Kirk was shot before the Chuck Schumer Sponsored Senate vote on the Jeffrey Epstein files. He was assassinated on September 10, 2025, at 2:23 PM MDT (4:23 PM EDT) in Orem, Utah. The Senate vote to table the amendment for releasing the Epstein files occurred later that day on September 10, 2025, at 5:20 PM EDT in Washington, D.C. This places the shooting approximately 57 minutes before the vote, accounting for the time zone difference.
September 10, 2025, at 5:20 PM EDTOn that date and time, the U.S. Senate voted on a motion to table Amendment No. 3849 (sponsored by Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer) to S. 2296, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2026. The amendment sought to direct the Attorney General to publicly release all federal documents related to Jeffrey Epstein within 30 days.The motion to table passed 51–49, with most Republicans voting yes (to block the amendment) and all Democrats plus two Republicans (Josh Hawley of Missouri and Rand Paul of Kentucky) voting no. This effectively defeated the effort to force the release of the files. The vote occurred during Senate floor proceedings in Washington, D.C., and was a procedural maneuver tied to the must-pass defense bill.
This is something the left was heavily pushing. Look up how to say "I love you" in American Sign Language, if you haven't already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzJjdvTF10A
Sign language is a fairly recently constructed language, and these fuckers love hidden meanings and to have love be their gesture is exactly the kind of thing they would do(blatantly obvious)
I mean to even consider using this given the ambiguity of the gesture when the whole two hands making a heart gesture exists.....
People keep forgetting that there isn't just 'narratives' but also counter narratives and negative narratives, and getting people to defend a gesture that most people have a gut reaction to and saying that you aren't seeing what you are seeing.....
People are locked in the whole black or white A vs B of it all and completely ignoring the rest of the alphabet, ignoring intuition when they shouldn't and going with feelings when they should go with intellect, and people KEEP doing it and falling for it........
Unfortunately(will probably get downvoted to shit for this) the bleating is just about as loud here as it is on the left, the only difference is in which direction the sheep are facing....
Ok on this point alone I am going to actually weigh in- ASL I love you is a one hand gesture and pretty well known. In every picture of me and my heavy metal friends or it friends I slip an I love you in to their devil horns. I was literally good naturedly teased for it. To be clear Something absolutely does not sit right in my spirit with this whole thing so I am actually so in for the dig but on the sign language 🤟 that is a total red herring Squirrel IMHO
I usually don't go ........ unless there is more than one thing causing me reason to pause and usually it is the combo of intuition/gut-feeling combined with thought.
My gut feeling about her is that there is something of about her, which is what made me not simply brush of her gesture(I'm also a metal-head and the use of that gesture in that context is highly likely something they fermented in the metal community, they want its use to be normalized so that regardless of where the real assholes can use it as signal without worrying about it...)
I much prefer the british two-fingered up-yours as the origin of it is as a sign of defiance(during war with France captured long-bowmen had their draw-fingers cut of, so holding them up on the battlefield to taunt and show that they still had them and would put them to good use became a thing)
BUT did they normally talk to each other in sign language.....
Why did she throw up a sign that only a tiny fraction would even recognize, is she connected to some type of deaf cause or group and did it for their benefit?
More common than you think sign has been a foreign language in high school for 2 decades
To the down voters - down voting facts you don’t like doesn’t hurt my feelings or make them less true. ASL is a recognized foreign language in many many school districts and has been for 20 years
What people don’t say about this is that this wasn’t a vote to release the Epstein files.. Schumer crammed that amendment in ON THAT DAY at the last minute inside of the NDAA bill which requires bipartisan support to pass. He knew that it wouldn’t pass if he added that because it’s not even relevant to the bill and they can’t have something like that in there which would complicate negotiations.
Your credibility will be lacking if you guys don’t clarify. The Texas Longhorns and the I Love You symbol in sign language is the least of God’s problems.
We used to do it all the time as kids because we had to learn sign language.
See that's the issue with perception. We usually only believe OUR experiences. We know history is a lie. We know the devil is the greatest deceiver. Step out of your box.
DUDE!!!! I haven’t had a box since mine was yanked out from under my feet in 2007 and I telling you straight up that the asl sign is not secret devil worshipping. THIS is the kind of crap that makes people dismiss good rabbit holes as sewer pits. If there is a real connection let’s find it but this sauceless hand jive pasta is flavorless and giving me constipation.
I did not like her throwing the devil horns or Ben Shapiro moving in before the burrial. But my point to post is this :
Charlie Kirk was shot before the Chuck Schumer Sponsored Senate vote on the Jeffrey Epstein files. He was assassinated on September 10, 2025, at 2:23 PM MDT (4:23 PM EDT) in Orem, Utah. The Senate vote to table the amendment for releasing the Epstein files occurred later that day on September 10, 2025, at 5:20 PM EDT in Washington, D.C. This places the shooting approximately 57 minutes before the vote, accounting for the time zone difference.
September 10, 2025, at 5:20 PM EDTOn that date and time, the U.S. Senate voted on a motion to table Amendment No. 3849 (sponsored by Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer) to S. 2296, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2026. The amendment sought to direct the Attorney General to publicly release all federal documents related to Jeffrey Epstein within 30 days.The motion to table passed 51–49, with most Republicans voting yes (to block the amendment) and all Democrats plus two Republicans (Josh Hawley of Missouri and Rand Paul of Kentucky) voting no. This effectively defeated the effort to force the release of the files. The vote occurred during Senate floor proceedings in Washington, D.C., and was a procedural maneuver tied to the must-pass defense bill.
This is something the left was heavily pushing. Look up how to say "I love you" in American Sign Language, if you haven't already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzJjdvTF10A
Sign language is a fairly recently constructed language, and these fuckers love hidden meanings and to have love be their gesture is exactly the kind of thing they would do(blatantly obvious)
I mean to even consider using this given the ambiguity of the gesture when the whole two hands making a heart gesture exists.....
People keep forgetting that there isn't just 'narratives' but also counter narratives and negative narratives, and getting people to defend a gesture that most people have a gut reaction to and saying that you aren't seeing what you are seeing.....
People are locked in the whole black or white A vs B of it all and completely ignoring the rest of the alphabet, ignoring intuition when they shouldn't and going with feelings when they should go with intellect, and people KEEP doing it and falling for it........
Unfortunately(will probably get downvoted to shit for this) the bleating is just about as loud here as it is on the left, the only difference is in which direction the sheep are facing....
Dont you have some fake photoshops to post up ....LOL
Ok on this point alone I am going to actually weigh in- ASL I love you is a one hand gesture and pretty well known. In every picture of me and my heavy metal friends or it friends I slip an I love you in to their devil horns. I was literally good naturedly teased for it. To be clear Something absolutely does not sit right in my spirit with this whole thing so I am actually so in for the dig but on the sign language 🤟 that is a total red herring Squirrel IMHO
I usually don't go ........ unless there is more than one thing causing me reason to pause and usually it is the combo of intuition/gut-feeling combined with thought.
My gut feeling about her is that there is something of about her, which is what made me not simply brush of her gesture(I'm also a metal-head and the use of that gesture in that context is highly likely something they fermented in the metal community, they want its use to be normalized so that regardless of where the real assholes can use it as signal without worrying about it...)
https://bsky.app/profile/bwd86.bsky.social/post/3lzixvpkftk2b She only had one hand free at the time.
Sure, since at least 1771....wait wut?
Short of esperanto and klingon....
what does “the bird” mean in sign language?
i’d like to finger you?
I much prefer the british two-fingered up-yours as the origin of it is as a sign of defiance(during war with France captured long-bowmen had their draw-fingers cut of, so holding them up on the battlefield to taunt and show that they still had them and would put them to good use became a thing)
Yes Thank you. Didn’t know that orgin. In sign it is kinda like biting the thumb then flicking it out.
It means your too stupid to learn legit sign for FU 🙄
Im not saying she threw up devil horns
Im not saying she didnt signal I love you in sign
BUT did they normally talk to each other in sign language.....
Why did she throw up a sign that only a tiny fraction would even recognize, is she connected to some type of deaf cause or group and did it for their benefit?
It’s DEFINITELY I love you in sign. My family does it.
More common than you think sign has been a foreign language in high school for 2 decades
To the down voters - down voting facts you don’t like doesn’t hurt my feelings or make them less true. ASL is a recognized foreign language in many many school districts and has been for 20 years
Exactly!!!!!
I had an issue with my Bro doing it at a University of Texas Long-Horns game using the same devil horns symbol.
SMH. Satan is using them imo.
https://greatawakening.win/p/19BGhTUInA/i-couldnt-tell-them-would-you-ha/
I zoomed in on a picture of that hand making that gesture.
I told my wife, I was gonna show her a picture for a moment and then pull the picture away and then she was gonna tell me what she saw
She said she saw the American Sign Language sign for I love you
I asked her how she could tell the difference between that and the devil Horns
Apparently, it’s in the position of the thumb
Not devil horns. It’s supposedly a combo symbol for I LoveYou. Tyrus does it all the time.
What people don’t say about this is that this wasn’t a vote to release the Epstein files.. Schumer crammed that amendment in ON THAT DAY at the last minute inside of the NDAA bill which requires bipartisan support to pass. He knew that it wouldn’t pass if he added that because it’s not even relevant to the bill and they can’t have something like that in there which would complicate negotiations.
🤘🏻 rock on!
🤟🏻 I love you
Clear?
Your credibility will be lacking if you guys don’t clarify. The Texas Longhorns and the I Love You symbol in sign language is the least of God’s problems.
We used to do it all the time as kids because we had to learn sign language.
See that's the issue with perception. We usually only believe OUR experiences. We know history is a lie. We know the devil is the greatest deceiver. Step out of your box.
DUDE!!!! I haven’t had a box since mine was yanked out from under my feet in 2007 and I telling you straight up that the asl sign is not secret devil worshipping. THIS is the kind of crap that makes people dismiss good rabbit holes as sewer pits. If there is a real connection let’s find it but this sauceless hand jive pasta is flavorless and giving me constipation.
Ha ha! I'm NOT a dude.
Go ahead and believe what you want.
I'd do the "peace" sign to you, but it doesn't mean PEACE either!
BTW you're letting your emotions control you on this subject.