I just setup 4 win11 PCs back to back. I didn't have to sign into anything...
If you're UPGRADING from win10 to 11, you may have to log into your ms account - but I didn't this past week setting up these. 3 desktops and a lappy - all 11 Pro.
I set all of them up "vanilla". I uncheck ALL the bs on the "location services" etc screen - all of them. I never use and never will use OneDrive.
I run all windows updates right out of the box to get the latest drivers and patches - then I lock them down via WinAeroTweaker. I add winupdates to the control panel and keep hitting it after a restart to make sure I've got them all.
OpenShell for the Classic start menu, explorer and familiar control panel layout.
Then download Brave browser and grab the uBlock Origin plugin so I don't have to watch ads...etc.
On newer hardware, you can't install Windows 10 if you wanted to due to a bios block. Even if you bypassed that, you wouldn't have many device drivers available. This one was done intentionally so they plugged up the normal migration bypass options.
I use quite old Apple Macs. I did investigate switching to Linux but it's a steep learning curve, some Apps aren't available, and I would need to keep at least two Macs operational in order to read old files.
Sorry, I don't understand "forking". The value of the files is zero (except to me) but they allow me to compile my life's memoirs. It's surprising just how little we actually remember over 70+ years and how many details we think we remember but get totally wrong. So finding a letter that I wrote back in, say, 1973, can tell me what car I was driving, how much I paid for it, the date of my first accident, first time in court and other details that I would otherwise either not recall or not recall accurately.
I've used computers since 1981. The first was a BBC microcomputer but I managed to convert all relevant documents (mostly correspondence) to a format that con still be read. I got my first Mac in 1987 and used MS Word before it was even available for Windows. Word files are no problem. But I also used QuarkXpress for publishing and for some correspondence. I've translated most of those files into plain text format but still come across a few that haven't been translated. And there are other formats.
There are also Apps for which there is no satisfactory equivalent. My many websites were all created with "Claris Home Page" and the pages can be read by many Apps but I can't use those apps to edit or create new pages in the way that I'm used to. At age 74, I have better things to do than to learn new software.
My wife also uses Macs and wouldn't want to change.
As an example, I spent 6 months upgrading from a 2012 Mac to a 2017 Mac laptop. The newer laptop wouldn't run the older OS or many of the Apps. So I spent ages either paying to upgrade, locating naughty copies (risky) or locating some other App to do the job. In some cases, the "updated" App version lacked functions that the old one had! So I had to find alternatives. For one App that wasn't possible, so I ended up installing VMWare Fusion emulation in order to run the earlier OS with the earlier App. Thankfully, that required no monetary cost but it took several days of effort and searching for answers to get it to work.
Consequently, the thought of switching to Linux gives me hot shivers. I just don't think it's feasible.
Well, fun fact is: MACOS in essence is UNIX, so it may be that freebsd/openbsd is closer to it than linux itself.
But, Geekish, never change a winning team. If it works for you, then it works for you.
But good gracious me. Claris home page, wasn't that some sort of wysiwyg-editor or something? It reminds me the time I've spent pirating stuff. I guess since my first runin with computers.
Yes, Claris Home Page is some sort of wysiwyg-editor. It has no support for cascading style sheets so everything is laid out using "tables". It's limiting but simple and works (still) in every browser. And it allows PHP includes. I've used it since 1996 - almost 30 years. There's nothing else like it.
The older the Mac, the more hoops you have to jump through to run Linux. The Core2Duo Macbooks run it nicely, but there are some workarounds for certain things that need to be done (i.e. Wifi and dodgy trackpad operation). For real fun, try running Debian Sid on a PowerPC Mac kek
dangit! I was just trying to do this but they got me! I did have linux installed on a couple pc's and it was great for web surfing, but I needed microhards office excel spreadsheets. I know linux has one, but its not as user friendly and file sharing friendly as microsft
Bypass by installing Linux and get away from the Beast System!
I just setup 4 win11 PCs back to back. I didn't have to sign into anything...
If you're UPGRADING from win10 to 11, you may have to log into your ms account - but I didn't this past week setting up these. 3 desktops and a lappy - all 11 Pro.
I set all of them up "vanilla". I uncheck ALL the bs on the "location services" etc screen - all of them. I never use and never will use OneDrive.
I run all windows updates right out of the box to get the latest drivers and patches - then I lock them down via WinAeroTweaker. I add winupdates to the control panel and keep hitting it after a restart to make sure I've got them all.
OpenShell for the Classic start menu, explorer and familiar control panel layout.
Then download Brave browser and grab the uBlock Origin plugin so I don't have to watch ads...etc.
so everyone is lying and Windows 11 isn't trying to eliminate local accounts?
Who's "everyone" exactly?
I can only share with you my experience this past week.
I got better things to do than make up ghey stories about windows of all things...
Maybe opting in to cloud services, requires you to log in.
No clood for me...no ETF paper silver either. Physical... physical... I wanna get physical.
the tech geek youtube channels are reporting it
I bypass it by running Debian Linux. WIndows 10 with ShutUpWin10 is where I stopped with Microsoft.
Interesting. Avoiding 11.
On newer hardware, you can't install Windows 10 if you wanted to due to a bios block. Even if you bypassed that, you wouldn't have many device drivers available. This one was done intentionally so they plugged up the normal migration bypass options.
I use quite old Apple Macs. I did investigate switching to Linux but it's a steep learning curve, some Apps aren't available, and I would need to keep at least two Macs operational in order to read old files.
How about forking those files? They must be very high value if you default to jumping through such hoops.
But it begs the question Geekish as to the kind of files you are working with?
Sorry, I don't understand "forking". The value of the files is zero (except to me) but they allow me to compile my life's memoirs. It's surprising just how little we actually remember over 70+ years and how many details we think we remember but get totally wrong. So finding a letter that I wrote back in, say, 1973, can tell me what car I was driving, how much I paid for it, the date of my first accident, first time in court and other details that I would otherwise either not recall or not recall accurately.
I've used computers since 1981. The first was a BBC microcomputer but I managed to convert all relevant documents (mostly correspondence) to a format that con still be read. I got my first Mac in 1987 and used MS Word before it was even available for Windows. Word files are no problem. But I also used QuarkXpress for publishing and for some correspondence. I've translated most of those files into plain text format but still come across a few that haven't been translated. And there are other formats.
There are also Apps for which there is no satisfactory equivalent. My many websites were all created with "Claris Home Page" and the pages can be read by many Apps but I can't use those apps to edit or create new pages in the way that I'm used to. At age 74, I have better things to do than to learn new software.
My wife also uses Macs and wouldn't want to change.
As an example, I spent 6 months upgrading from a 2012 Mac to a 2017 Mac laptop. The newer laptop wouldn't run the older OS or many of the Apps. So I spent ages either paying to upgrade, locating naughty copies (risky) or locating some other App to do the job. In some cases, the "updated" App version lacked functions that the old one had! So I had to find alternatives. For one App that wasn't possible, so I ended up installing VMWare Fusion emulation in order to run the earlier OS with the earlier App. Thankfully, that required no monetary cost but it took several days of effort and searching for answers to get it to work.
Consequently, the thought of switching to Linux gives me hot shivers. I just don't think it's feasible.
Well, fun fact is: MACOS in essence is UNIX, so it may be that freebsd/openbsd is closer to it than linux itself.
But, Geekish, never change a winning team. If it works for you, then it works for you.
But good gracious me. Claris home page, wasn't that some sort of wysiwyg-editor or something? It reminds me the time I've spent pirating stuff. I guess since my first runin with computers.
Man, how far we've come.
Yes, Claris Home Page is some sort of wysiwyg-editor. It has no support for cascading style sheets so everything is laid out using "tables". It's limiting but simple and works (still) in every browser. And it allows PHP includes. I've used it since 1996 - almost 30 years. There's nothing else like it.
Here's a website that I created: https://web.archive.org/web/20151230041648/http://osteopaths.uk.com/
That site was subsequently changed to Wordpress, I believe, because the owner wanted more bells and whistles.
The older the Mac, the more hoops you have to jump through to run Linux. The Core2Duo Macbooks run it nicely, but there are some workarounds for certain things that need to be done (i.e. Wifi and dodgy trackpad operation). For real fun, try running Debian Sid on a PowerPC Mac kek
dangit! I was just trying to do this but they got me! I did have linux installed on a couple pc's and it was great for web surfing, but I needed microhards office excel spreadsheets. I know linux has one, but its not as user friendly and file sharing friendly as microsft
LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Linux are very friendly. You can even default to using Microsoft formats if you like.
tried this out and didnt like it. I may revisit again sometime, its been a while
Thx for this. Never tried this one
Can't you just install a virtual machine with windows whatever on it and run it within Linux any time you have to run Excel etc?
Sauce: https://youtu.be/kN1MWBa3yiw