https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.767A2NQ
Fact checking the fact checkers
This article is not “fact checking”…
its propaganda, and heres why…
FTA:
The lead author of the paper said … subsequent studies have consistently shown the neurological and developmental disorder is not caused by the MMR shot.
notice how he is very careful with his words?
“studies have shown” is bullshit, because “studies” are NOT evidence, and only “show” what you want them to “show”
So, studies that “show” what you want them to “show”, get publicized,
While studies that DO NOT show what you want them to show, DO NOT get publicized…
they just start off with “muh STUDIES show”, and hope that you just immediately accept their narrative frame, which is,
“NOT ONLY SHALL STUDIES BE CONSIDERED EVIDENCE,
BUT STUDIES SHALL BE CONSIDERED TO BE THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE FORM OF EVIDENCE
and then he limits his statement by saying
“…by the MMR shot”
im sure if he was defend himself here, that he would claim that the reason he limited his statement by saying the MMR shot was because that’s all he could conclusively say from his study because his study only looked at the MMR shot
And that would technically be true…BUT
The way that they phrase this deceptively implies that there is no link between ANY vaccine and autism
Later in the AFP “fact check”, the AFP propagandists try to develop a narrative about the history of the vaccine autism debate, where they cherry-pick certain studies, and omit other studies, to develop their lying narratives
The research idea and concept were mine," Kreesten Madsen, the study's lead author, told AFP in a September 19 email
Madsen said Thorsen was not central to the project and never had access to its data, but did provide a connection to the CDC, one of several funders for the work.
He said he has "full confidence" in the article as it was written and welcomes others to repeat the study with an even larger dataset.
The New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) also said it “did not find” any issues with the paper, despite Thorsen's indictment.
The study's findings remain valid and are consistent with extensive subsequent research showing no link between MMR vaccination and autism," a spokesperson for NEJM said in a September 20 email.
Similarly, David Mandell, director of the Penn Center for Mental Health at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, told AFP he reviewed the paper's methodology
"The methods are highly consistent with what we think about as high-quality science," he said September 22.
"So yes, bring him to justice for stealing grant money from the CDC. But let's not confuse that with the validity of the science that this group and many other groups have done."
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Ok, also very subtle narrative framing here
“high quality science” sounds impressive,
if you “believe in” science
come on bro… trust the science bro…
the very concept of “studies” is 100% bullshit, and we can discuss why in the comments below
so its deliciously ironic that he claims the methods are highly consistent with what we think about as high-quality “science”
because “b -b-but muh studies” are the absolute state of vaccine “science” today, in 2025
the reason they instantly direct your attention to “muh studies”, is because thats literally ALL THEY HAVE for “evidence”
what other branch of science is based exclusively in “studies”?
I say it is high time we take a very close look at the entire presmise of “studies”
and ask ourselves if we should allow a handful of “sponsored scientists” to use “muh studies” to dictate the establishemnt version of reality to the rest of the world
No link between vaccines and ASD
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"It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of medicine
—Marcia Angell, former editor-in-chief of The New England Journal of Medicine
Regardless of what they want studies to show or not show, Parents and individuals have an inherent free right to decline.
i like your sentiment, but lets take it farther
not only do we have a “right to decline”
we have a right not to even be hassled by these vaccine hustlers
we shouldn’t have to say “NO”
we “should” have to say “yes”
vaccines should never be “opt out”
vaccine should only ever be “opt in”
and because WE LOVE INFORMED CONSENT
we want to impliment some
COMMON SENSE VACCINE CONTROLS
like mandatory classes,
licensing
registration
waiting period
background checks
mental health screenings
home visits by social workers
periodic review
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Not sure what that picture was of, but it was gone now
Weird. Catbox was giving me issues earlier. Trying again.
Nope. No idea. I can’t get it to work for me either. Will just post here.
https://greatawakening.win/p/1ARJheIJjn/
Someday soon no-one will voluntarily discuss their involvement in vaccine development. They are ALL 100% harmful, especially to child development with some laced with particularly toxic substances, INTENTIONALLY.
Free? Rights?? What are these things - Keir Starmer
The dogmatism of vaccinology reflects its source: an area of science where lack of evidence is paraded as evidence, contrary ideas are so heretical that they must be attacked instead of engaged with, and proof is relegated to the domain of those that objected instead of those that instituted.
this would be a good motivational poster
A toddler is 7 times more likely to be diagnosed as autistic if they've received the MMR vaccine at the recommended age (15-18 months) than if they receive it at age 3 or later.
Not saying WHY that is, or WHAT the connection is, but worth noting.
They appear to be attempting to "pollute" all studies and research to pre-emptively discredit ALL counter conclusions on this topic. Key questions when reviewing ALL research papers:
I have witnessed the damaged that can happen to a child 2 weeks after her shots at 4 years old. Profusely blinking and stuttering. Took some work on our part to get her clear about 6-8 weeks. We used “green juice” like Bare Naked and zeolite drops, herbal foot pads w tourmaline and bamboo.
Pine needle tea is good also (suramin)
Fact chack the fack check
Well just because he was proven to not be honorable with CDC funds does not prove he was dishonest in writing a report but it does make it more likely
should make us ask questions like, if he stole all the money, then how did they do their science without those supposedly-necessary funds?
Well, of course. Maybe I should have said: MUCH more likely
… CONTINUED FROM OP. click the “ by the title above, to see full context in body of post …
FTA:
No link between vaccines and ASD
HHS defines Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) as a developmental disability.
"ASD affects how people interact with others, communicate, learn, and behave. ASD is called a 'spectrum' disorder because people experience different types of symptoms," the agency says on its website.
Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has a long history of spreading misinformation about vaccines, has said the United States is facing an ASD "epidemic" and promised to reveal new research into the causes and treatments for the condition.
Notice how any and every vaccine criticism is always quickly dismissed with a grand wave of the arm, while saying “vaccine misinformation”
On September 22, he joined Donald Trump at the White House to announce guidance for doctors and patients, but the press conference quickly veered from the facts as the president vehemently insisted there is a clear link between the use of Tylenol during pregnancy and autism (archived here).
Root Cause Analysis:
WHY were pregnant women given Tylenol?
Because pregnant women were given vaccine first,
and the Tylenol was supposed to be a fever, suppressant and a pain suppressant
Trump also urged parents to reject the MMR shot in favor of vaccines for a single virus, a proposal that would be a major change to the current recommendations
but why these particular “recommendations”?
because of “vaccine compliance”
you are far more likely to comply, and get ONE shot for MMR,
than you are to comply, and get THREE shots for MMR
they know if you become “vaccine non compliant” on one vaccine, you are more likely to become noncompliant on other vaccines
That’s why they are offering the mRNA booster shot and the flu shot at the same time in place in 2025
The World Health Organization said September 23 that neither acetaminophen -- the primary ingredient in Tylenol, known as paracetamol in Europe -- nor vaccines have been shown to cause autism.
“Been shown to”
lets take a much closer look by what they mean by that
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FTA:
Longstanding misinformation about the link between the MMR vaccine and autism largely stems from a 1998 paper by Andrew Wakefield, who was struck off as a doctor in the United Kingdom in 2010 (archived here). The Lancet also retracted the study after falsified data was found.
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OK, this is their standard line.
they lead-off with Wakefield, and they ALWAYS frame the history of the vaccine-autism debate as BEGINNING WITH a rogue doctor, motivated by money, who got busted, his study got retracted. and how better studies can’t find evidence linking vaccines to autism
THIS IS ALL FALSE!
PARENTS had been noticing thier children regressing into autism mere hours after vaccinss for many generations before Wakefield ever published
but they don’t want to talk about that
They don’t wanna lead off with the parents
They don’t want you to think about the parents at all
They want you to ignore everything that parents say
and pretend that every parent out there is not qualified to connect the dots between vaccines and vaccine reactions
And today in 2025 its still the same way, they don’t want you to consider the parents testimonies
AT ALL
So they lead off by directing your attention to STUDIES,
and then they develop their narratives around STUDIES
they want STUDIES to be the first, last, and only thing you ever think about
Research that followed both Wakefield's flawed paper and the work of the Danish team has found no association between vaccination and autism:
“Found no association”
this is their standard, carefully crafted word-smithing
this statement is based on the premise that studies are THE ONLY form of scientific evidence
and that if a scientist claims he
“can’t find the evidence”,
then that somehow means
“the evidence does not exist”
meanwhile, we are to complety ignore parents,…
In 2009, researchers from the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia examined seven studies looking at a possible association between autism and thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative in vaccines. All of them failed to support the link
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again, directing your attention to STUDIES,
where super-duper scientists just can’t ever seem to find any evidence, of any vaccine problem, by using any study
in this study, they limit their inquiry to ONE COMPONENT, thimerosal,
and then subtley imply that because they “can’t find the evidence” linking this one vaccine component, then theres no evidence linking any other vaccine component
A 2013 CDC study found that the amount of antigens -- substances that trigger the body's immune response and can be included in vaccines in weakened or inactive forms -- received during the first two years of life did not increase a child's risk of developing autism
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again, more careful word-smithing
“Found that” is based on a false premise that “failing to find the evidence” is somehow rock-solid evidence that the evidence does not exist.
Furthermore, the AFP fact checkers are LYING BY OMISSION
BY FAILING TO CITE THE 2004 CDC VACCINE AUTISM STUDY
WHICH A CDC WHISTLEBLOWER IN 2014 MADE A PRESS RELEASE ADMITTING TO OMITTING THE DATA LINKING VACCINES TO AUTISM
Age at First Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccination in Children With Autism and School-Matched Control Subjects: A Population-Based Study in Metropolitan Atlanta
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14754936
In response to this whistleblower press release, the CDC made an official statement,
https://archive.ph/o/bjEo9/https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/Autism/cdc2004pediatrics.html
where the CDC claimed, without evidence, that the reason the CDC found links between earlier vaccines and more autism, is because
pre-existing autism entitled already-autistic children to attent special needs pre-school programs, which had vaccine requirements to attend
hence autism causes early vaccines
"All the research we have done to date suggests that the causes of autism are primarily genetic," University of Pennsylvania's Mandell said.
"We have looked at whether children got vaccinated. We have looked at when they got vaccinated. We have looked at which combinations of vaccines they've gotten. And in all those studies that were well done, we see no association between vaccines and autism."
The Coalition of Autism Scientists and the Autism Science Foundation echoed this understanding in statements
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this is a red herring argument.
they claim autism is “genetic”
so we simply ask, “which genes”
and then they admit that they think they might have a list of about 100 suspect genes, but nothing really definitive, nothing conclusive, nothing strong enough to make any official diagnoses based on a genetic test
and then they further admit that even considering these 100 genes, these genes only account for about 5% of autism cases
So NO, they should NOT be claiming autism is genetic based on these weak arguments
Furthermore, if we ask “how exactly do genes cause autism?”
Then they will admit that many people have a mutation on the MTHFR Gene
And that this mutatation on the MTHFR gene makes these people more susceptible to bad vaccine reactions, because they are not able to metabolize the vaccine like other people do
So… in the vaccine cult way of thinking, the vaccine is innocent, and its YOUR OWN FAULT for having BAD GENES
typical NPD narcissistic personality disorder
refuse to accept responsibility for their actions
EVERYONE should read "Dissolving Illusions" about vaxxines by Bystrianyk, Roman.
https://files.catbox.moe/y8wc7p.pdf