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CONSERVATIVE ACTION: At least for one night, Antifa is demoralized and on the run in Portland. Conservatives are coming out in droves and even bringing their kids to support ICE officers. But how long will this last? (twitter.com) 🏆 - WINNING - 🏆
posted 220 days ago by brain_dead 220 days ago by brain_dead +122 / -0
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– libtards_r_stoopid 12 points 220 days ago +12 / -0

I do not agree with bringing your children to this. These evil antifa fucks have no limits. They would harm a kid and not think twice and half of them probably want to fuck your kids. Please leave your children at home!

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– crazycloud4 8 points 220 days ago +8 / -0

Her children are the ones that wanted to come and she agreed.

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– libtards_r_stoopid 5 points 220 days ago +5 / -0

That's nice. And she's the adult in the room. Plenty of other alternative ways to show conservative support besides taking your kids into the hornets nest. I dont think she's a horrible mother but this is dangerous.

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– mac1221 3 points 220 days ago +3 / -0

Antifa seems to have retreated. If there was any sign of danger, I have no doubt she is smart enough to remove herself and her teenagers from the situation. These are not small children who have no business being there. These are teenagers.

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– mac1221 5 points 220 days ago +5 / -0

These are not children, they are teenagers. I think those teenagers probably have a better handle on what is at stake more so than many of the adults. They are faced with it every day. This mom knows her kids and I am sure she scoped the situation out before participating. She said, it appeared safe.

The culture battle is going to be fought with our youth. This is what Charlie understood. When is an appropriate time to wage this battle? Parents I think sometimes underestimate their children and their strength. Antifa counts on people being too afraid to take action.

Antifa knows how to read the political winds and right now, those winds are not blowing in their favor. The place was also full of alternative media filming everything. If Antifa tried anything, it would not be a good look for them and risked alienating them even more from public support - which is eroding quickly.

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– SuburbanSage 6 points 220 days ago +6 / -0

15 year olds used to lie about being older so that they could shoot redcoats in this country

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– mac1221 2 points 220 days ago +2 / -0

Yes they did. I have a few of those in my own family history - a long list of them so it must be in our blood.

One of my ancestors was a Civil War Vet that lied about his age to join one of the Iowa regiments. He was 15. Even my own father tried that one to join the Air Force back in the early fifties. I think he was almost 17 at the time. They weren't buying it. He went back when he turned 18 and joined. He was stationed in Germany. It wasn't hard to figure out he was lying because both my parents never looked their age. Even when he was 25 he was still being carded to buy cigarettes.

I have an ancestor that was under George Washington's command. He was just a kid - about 16 and was a drummer. The first 3 drums that were shot up the government replaced. The last few he had to pay for himself. Those guys were always in the front. Some real cajones for a young guy - or really stupid. Maybe both.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 220 days ago +1 / -0

They are demon possessed. I can tell you that right now.

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– cryofreeze 8 points 220 days ago +8 / -0

It's easier to be a protestor when you are on a trust fund or EBT like 90% of the left.

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– mac1221 3 points 220 days ago +3 / -0

Yes, the rest of us are working or taking care of our families when these thugs are out on the streets causing trouble.

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 220 days ago +2 / -0

That's right.

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– ZeKaiser 5 points 220 days ago +5 / -0

The question is when the NG raids their compounds where I'm sure their days of trouble begin.

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– mac1221 2 points 220 days ago +2 / -0

The job of the NG in Portland is simply to protect Federal property and personnel. Anything outside of that is beyond their jurisdiction and scope of duty. Even if they do make an arrest in the execution of their protection duties, the NG still hands over those people to LE for possible adjudication.

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– ZeKaiser 1 point 220 days ago +1 / -0

Given that LEO is compromised and they're storing weapons in those places to attack federal agents and their buildings, that can constitute action if local authorities are unwilling.

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– mac1221 1 point 220 days ago +1 / -0

The NG have no powers to arrest. In that respect, they are no different from any other private citizen that is not a LEO. Their only option is to call in Federal LE if the local LE refuses to help - such as Federal Marshals or the FBI that do have powers to arrest. But even then, it would have to be on Federal charges. The Feds do not enforce State or other local laws. All the NG can do within the scope of their duty is detain someone, say if they are assaulted, but it is not an arrest. Raids and the like are not within their scope of duty. Arrests and investigations must be handled by LE. What local LE choses to do with the people the guard does manage to detain, is entirely up to them. Unfortunately, more times than not, these thugs are turned back onto the streets by local LE. The punks in Portland know this and take full advantage that the NG has its hands tied.

The only exception to expanding arrest powers for the military would be under Marshal Law. But even then, this arrest power is subject to significant legal constraints and is not absolute. It boils down to the fact that the guard is not there to clean up Portland as much as we would like them to. They are there to protect the facility and other Fed officers trying to do their jobs. That's it.

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– ZeKaiser 2 points 219 days ago +2 / -0

Thanks for the explanation, but they can be federalized correct, Portland is actually a large city and I imagine you would have to flood in thousands of federal agents to ensure peace and other numerous duties if called for.

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– mac1221 1 point 219 days ago +1 / -0

You are welcome.

Even if the NG is Federalized, the military still does not have powers to arrest. Like I already stated, even under Marshal Law the military is very limited and does not have full arrest powers over civilians. These are Constitutional protections. The NG is in Portland to protect personnel and facilities within the scope of their duties. That is pretty much the extent of what they can do. People mistakenly think that the NG was sent in to clean up Portland. That is not why they were sent there nor is it what they can legally do.

Federal LE is probably more focused on tracking down the big fish with the money rather than knock heads with the street punks. Break the funding chain and much of the problem will go away. So, unfortunately for the citizens of Portland, and other such cities, it is up to them to clean up their own streets and it doesn't appear that they have the will to do so. That is on the State and the city of Portland to do. In addition, the citizens of Portland don't seem to want to hold their leaders accountable. They keep getting reelected or they vote for somebody even worse.

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– ZeKaiser 2 points 219 days ago +2 / -0

Interesting information, since Trump did declare himself as a war time president and these people are actual enemy combatants.

Which is true when you look it legally, as Soros has a privately funded army that has ties to terrorist organizations and actually are getting taught by traitorous soldiers in the US armed forces to resist the government.

Technically speaking they can be identified as an actual fighting force correct, like if they're receiving training from real soldiers who are actively part of the military?

I recall they did have this member who fought in the ME, as a volunteer of YPG and he was in the armed forces as a sniper that joined Antifa.

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– mac1221 1 point 218 days ago +1 / -0

There are more than a few that have training. They are the ones that do the real dirty work. Hit and run. Then they go hide under their slimy rock leaving the dummies behind to get all the attention.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 220 days ago +1 / -0

Go back to mom's basement.

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– doug1956 3 points 220 days ago +3 / -0

Guess they really don’t want the NG.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 220 days ago +1 / -0

It's all cleaned up right now. I couldn't even believe it happened.

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– Steppenwolfe 3 points 220 days ago +3 / -0

Be careful. One of the Antifa tactics is to show up as MAGA to create trouble so the blame can be directed off Antifa.

With that said, very happy to legit MAGA show up!!!

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– mac1221 2 points 220 days ago +2 / -0

For too long people have been intimidated and we have been losing the battle for our youth in the culture war. We have to show up to the battle at some point to push back - not through violence - but to allow ourselves to be seen and our voices heard. There are far more of us then there are of them. They will back down in the face of overwhelming numbers of Patriots.

But, you do have a good point. We have learned some really hard lessons about their tactics. We are doing a much better job of identifying the tactics and calling it out when we see it. This is a war and we don't have the option of sitting on the sidelines.

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– Steppenwolfe 3 points 220 days ago +3 / -0

They have that one goon who identifies as a Muslim woman, in full attire with an AR-15 slung openly. According the Andy Ngo(?), this anarchist is responsible for assassinating a MAGA protestor point blank and is still walking around Portland…..

So, yes! They are violent and need to be eradicated…

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– mac1221 2 points 220 days ago +2 / -0

As I said, this is a war. Not to minimize someone being killed. That is horrible and this aberration of nature needs to be held accountable. But, we have been living in fear for too long over what may or may not happen. That too is one of Antifa's tactics - and the ilk just like them. They use fear to keep the rest of us down and on the sidelines. God bless those brave Patriots willing to stand up - like Charlie and Trump.

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– Steppenwolfe 1 point 220 days ago +1 / -0

Add yourself to this list fren!!!

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– mac1221 2 points 220 days ago +2 / -0

Exactly. If there is a way to get involved where you live, do it. I've taken plenty of hits for standing up.

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 220 days ago +2 / -0

Infiltration. I got you.

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