God's birth is important, if you let the enemy lie on the truth then he'll be able to dictate to the world about Jesus in a false manner that's not even true. If the Devil can convince people he doesn't exist, imagine what he could do if no one bothered to refute his false claims.
God's birth is important, if you let the enemy lie on the truth
Yes, but ...
Advertised as in title: "The True Birthday of Jesus"
...
Disclaimer in first sentence: "Jesus might have been born ..."
Can we all demand you re-read your own source material so that the "truth" can be revealed, which is the author explicitly states in the 1st sentence that they are guessing?
Not my article, but I am saying that every little thing matters whether good or evil as everything has a reason why it's so.
The reason why I posted this article is because for a special day like this, Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. I believe it was around September or October, basically it starts conversation too as I also learned crucial information.
It's a long thread from what I posted, you have to scroll down where he quotes Scripture. A few words will not give you the whole picture, regardless of what source you would read from.
It's fascinating how much interest your post has generated, also the passion with which people will defend their position on a religious issue like this. I myself tend to agree with many points in the article. I started suspecting that Jesus couldn't have been born in December when I realized shepherds don't sleep outside with their flocks in the dead of winter, even in the Middle East. It was probably in September for all the reasons the author suggests.
There is also an issue with the three days and nights in the grave before Jesus' resurrection. In order for there to be three full days and three full nights, Jesus would have to have been crucified on a Wednesday, which means there would have been two sabbaths that week, a passover and a regular weekly sabbath.
Sadly the church has lied to us, Jesus was clear 3 days and 3 nights not just 3 day but a full 72 hours. We have it recorded that He was into the tomb at sundown and we know He was seen risen in the early morning of Day 1 of the week - which starts at sundown on 7th day [Saturday]
Jesus was clear the church decided and has continued to obfuscate - there was No Good Friday! Why did they do this?
As for 25th December and the Pagan celebration of Mythas the return of the sun god - its like saying to your true love I don't know what day you were born but I want to keep celebrating on the birthday of my old lover because I cannot be bother to change or even enquire when your birthday is. Your new true love will not be impressed.
Now substitute satan for old lover and Jesus for true love!
You might have well just said Jesus was 5'11 instead of 5'10.
You might have well just said Jesus had attached earlobes instead of separated earlobes.
You might have well just said Jesus was left handed instead of right handed, or short hair instead of long hair, or an innie belly button instead of an outie.
In other words, it makes absolutely zero difference what day Jesus was born on. It's as significant as everything else mentioned above.
You're here preaching like we have to get this right or something bad happens, muh "if you let the enemy lie on the truth" whatever that means.
In reality, it doesn't matter. And your source material has a disclaimer in the first sentence of "might", as in they're guessing.
In unrelated news, George Washington's birthday was Feb 22 and people have the gall celebrate it every third Monday in February. Imagine that, celebrating a birthday on a day that's not actually his birthday. He has to be rolling in his grave.
What that means if you let the enemy do what he wants, essentially it's like letting yourself to be a victim without any pushback which thus makes you irrelevant to speak up for what's right if you let them do it.
It's like your argument in a nutshell is saying that that if a liberal doesn't see the truth and thinks Donald Trump should be in prison because of TDS then that should be the reality for everyone else regardless of secondhand opinion.
It's also not just the article itself people in the comment section are saying the same or similar thing regarding the dates, if you don't care about the things considered small or insignificant.
Then you'll be no better than the left who started small on their lunacy, and eventually turned it in the hell it became today because no else cared as they want to screw this nation over.
(When Washington was born the date was called February 11 because Britain had not adopted the Gregorian calendar. After the adoption, in Washington's adulthood his birthdate was called February 11 Old Style and February 22 New Style. It is correct that it's the same solar date as our current February 22. So truth does matter ....)
Howdy Mrs. Ippeas, thank you for carrying on the account!
I don't think Ernest Martin was correct about Sep 11, because he is overreliant on constellations and underreliant on careful reading of Josephus. I see you've put some stuff forward on it so I might comment on it briefly but I don't want to bore you.
God's birth is crucial, and it's essensial that we protect the truth about it. If we allow the enemy to distort the truth, he can mislead the world about who Jesus really is. Just like the Devil tries to convince people that he doesn't exist, imagine what he could do if no one stood up to correct his false narrtives about Jesus.
It's important to recognize how cultural traditons sometimes stray from the true message of Christianity. For example, the evergreen tree, a symbol widley used in Christmas celebrations, doesn't actually have any historical or biblical roots in Israel. In fact, evergreens don't even grow in the region of Israel where Jesus was born. The tree has been adopted over time through various traditions, but itβs important to consider how these traditons can sometimes obscure the real meaning of Christmas.
Santa Claus, too, is another example of how modern commericalized traditions have overshadowed the true message of Jesus' birth. While they may seem harmless or fun, they can sometimes divert our focus away from the reason we celebrate Christmas in the first place:the birth of our Savior. These symbols, though they seem innocent, can lead people to misunderstand or forget the true significance of the holiday.
By sticking to the truth of who Jesus is and why He came to Earth, we can preserve the integrity of the Christian faith and avoid getting caught up in traditons that, while popular, donβt align with the true message of Christianity.
Unfortunately, it appears people just giving up and saying "whatever" when someone BS's us (satan or whoever) is what's gotten us into the mess we're in right now. Let them get away with enough "truth distortions" over a long enough time period and look at what sort of nefarious crap they pull.
If you don't believe me, do the math and realize we've had about 2500 abortions PER DAY happening in the US for way too long, not aware of how badly our government was falsely taxing us into deciding between giving up children or debt slavery.
God's birth is important, if you let the enemy lie on the truth then he'll be able to dictate to the world about Jesus in a false manner that's not even true. If the Devil can convince people he doesn't exist, imagine what he could do if no one bothered to refute his false claims.
Yes, but ...
Advertised as in title: "The True Birthday of Jesus"
...
Disclaimer in first sentence: "Jesus might have been born ..."
Can we all demand you re-read your own source material so that the "truth" can be revealed, which is the author explicitly states in the 1st sentence that they are guessing?
Not my article, but I am saying that every little thing matters whether good or evil as everything has a reason why it's so.
The reason why I posted this article is because for a special day like this, Jesus wasn't born on December 25th. I believe it was around September or October, basically it starts conversation too as I also learned crucial information.
It's a long thread from what I posted, you have to scroll down where he quotes Scripture. A few words will not give you the whole picture, regardless of what source you would read from.
It's fascinating how much interest your post has generated, also the passion with which people will defend their position on a religious issue like this. I myself tend to agree with many points in the article. I started suspecting that Jesus couldn't have been born in December when I realized shepherds don't sleep outside with their flocks in the dead of winter, even in the Middle East. It was probably in September for all the reasons the author suggests.
There is also an issue with the three days and nights in the grave before Jesus' resurrection. In order for there to be three full days and three full nights, Jesus would have to have been crucified on a Wednesday, which means there would have been two sabbaths that week, a passover and a regular weekly sabbath.
Sadly the church has lied to us, Jesus was clear 3 days and 3 nights not just 3 day but a full 72 hours. We have it recorded that He was into the tomb at sundown and we know He was seen risen in the early morning of Day 1 of the week - which starts at sundown on 7th day [Saturday]
Jesus was clear the church decided and has continued to obfuscate - there was No Good Friday! Why did they do this?
As for 25th December and the Pagan celebration of Mythas the return of the sun god - its like saying to your true love I don't know what day you were born but I want to keep celebrating on the birthday of my old lover because I cannot be bother to change or even enquire when your birthday is. Your new true love will not be impressed.
Now substitute satan for old lover and Jesus for true love!
You might have well just said Jesus was 5'11 instead of 5'10.
You might have well just said Jesus had attached earlobes instead of separated earlobes.
You might have well just said Jesus was left handed instead of right handed, or short hair instead of long hair, or an innie belly button instead of an outie.
In other words, it makes absolutely zero difference what day Jesus was born on. It's as significant as everything else mentioned above.
You're here preaching like we have to get this right or something bad happens, muh "if you let the enemy lie on the truth" whatever that means.
In reality, it doesn't matter. And your source material has a disclaimer in the first sentence of "might", as in they're guessing.
In unrelated news, George Washington's birthday was Feb 22 and people have the gall celebrate it every third Monday in February. Imagine that, celebrating a birthday on a day that's not actually his birthday. He has to be rolling in his grave.
What that means if you let the enemy do what he wants, essentially it's like letting yourself to be a victim without any pushback which thus makes you irrelevant to speak up for what's right if you let them do it.
It's like your argument in a nutshell is saying that that if a liberal doesn't see the truth and thinks Donald Trump should be in prison because of TDS then that should be the reality for everyone else regardless of secondhand opinion.
It's also not just the article itself people in the comment section are saying the same or similar thing regarding the dates, if you don't care about the things considered small or insignificant.
Then you'll be no better than the left who started small on their lunacy, and eventually turned it in the hell it became today because no else cared as they want to screw this nation over.
(When Washington was born the date was called February 11 because Britain had not adopted the Gregorian calendar. After the adoption, in Washington's adulthood his birthdate was called February 11 Old Style and February 22 New Style. It is correct that it's the same solar date as our current February 22. So truth does matter ....)
We need to know these things, thank you for letting us know. God bless
Howdy Mrs. Ippeas, thank you for carrying on the account!
I don't think Ernest Martin was correct about Sep 11, because he is overreliant on constellations and underreliant on careful reading of Josephus. I see you've put some stuff forward on it so I might comment on it briefly but I don't want to bore you.
You're welcome friend, Merry Christmas and blessings to you!
Thank you, same to you. Amen.
100% agree.
God's birth is crucial, and it's essensial that we protect the truth about it. If we allow the enemy to distort the truth, he can mislead the world about who Jesus really is. Just like the Devil tries to convince people that he doesn't exist, imagine what he could do if no one stood up to correct his false narrtives about Jesus. It's important to recognize how cultural traditons sometimes stray from the true message of Christianity. For example, the evergreen tree, a symbol widley used in Christmas celebrations, doesn't actually have any historical or biblical roots in Israel. In fact, evergreens don't even grow in the region of Israel where Jesus was born. The tree has been adopted over time through various traditions, but itβs important to consider how these traditons can sometimes obscure the real meaning of Christmas.
Santa Claus, too, is another example of how modern commericalized traditions have overshadowed the true message of Jesus' birth. While they may seem harmless or fun, they can sometimes divert our focus away from the reason we celebrate Christmas in the first place:the birth of our Savior. These symbols, though they seem innocent, can lead people to misunderstand or forget the true significance of the holiday. By sticking to the truth of who Jesus is and why He came to Earth, we can preserve the integrity of the Christian faith and avoid getting caught up in traditons that, while popular, donβt align with the true message of Christianity.
Unfortunately, it appears people just giving up and saying "whatever" when someone BS's us (satan or whoever) is what's gotten us into the mess we're in right now. Let them get away with enough "truth distortions" over a long enough time period and look at what sort of nefarious crap they pull.
If you don't believe me, do the math and realize we've had about 2500 abortions PER DAY happening in the US for way too long, not aware of how badly our government was falsely taxing us into deciding between giving up children or debt slavery.
Gods "birth"? God is and always has been.
As long as everyone understands this is about the 17th different 'actual birthday' of Jesus that scholars have suggested
The September 11th thing seems a little too perfect IMHO