Collapse? Why? What are you funding? You are basically occupying half the world. What do a few tens of thousand soldiers in Germany fund? Bratwurst and beers?
The situation is exactly the opposite. The Americans have European bases from which they attack half the world. Imagine the reduction in power if the US lost those bases (this is exactly why Russians like Chukna propose this idea). And on top of that, European politicians get bribes from Americans to buy their weapons in the US. Without that, we would gladly have more of our own weapons and our economy would profit.
Let me tell you a tale about the US Navy and the city of Norfolk, VA back in the 80s.
Now sailors aren't the politest of company, I'll give you that. Rarely a plaster saint (to borrow from Kipling) amongst them. But they're also not a major source of crime (at least back then).
So denizens of Norfolk started getting rude, some businesses had "No dogs or sailors allowed", grifting and scamming of sailors was widespread.
In response to this the Navy, after a number of good faith attempts to have Norfolk resolve the issues, simple moved all ships to a port in Florida (I forget which one, happened while I was overseas), and all the airdales to Pensacola NAS.
It took about 6 weeks for the city of Norfolk to cave in and beg the Navy to come back.
Fast forward to 2026
Now, let's say that we pull out of NATO. What do you imagine will happen to the cities those bases are in?
Which is exactly why I said in another post we should exit NATO ASAP. We'll collapse the EU, the leeches will leave, and the peasants just might revolt.
Freeloaders!!!
Parasites!
They also push fake science bullshit as well.
We should withdraw from NATO. And charge every nation for protecting the sea lanes.
YEP, Pull ALL US forces and funding out of Europe and WATCH what happens.
They would collapse within 6 months.
Six months? Ha! I'd guess probably half of that or less.
Collapse? Why? What are you funding? You are basically occupying half the world. What do a few tens of thousand soldiers in Germany fund? Bratwurst and beers?
The situation is exactly the opposite. The Americans have European bases from which they attack half the world. Imagine the reduction in power if the US lost those bases (this is exactly why Russians like Chukna propose this idea). And on top of that, European politicians get bribes from Americans to buy their weapons in the US. Without that, we would gladly have more of our own weapons and our economy would profit.
Let me tell you a tale about the US Navy and the city of Norfolk, VA back in the 80s.
Now sailors aren't the politest of company, I'll give you that. Rarely a plaster saint (to borrow from Kipling) amongst them. But they're also not a major source of crime (at least back then).
So denizens of Norfolk started getting rude, some businesses had "No dogs or sailors allowed", grifting and scamming of sailors was widespread.
In response to this the Navy, after a number of good faith attempts to have Norfolk resolve the issues, simple moved all ships to a port in Florida (I forget which one, happened while I was overseas), and all the airdales to Pensacola NAS.
It took about 6 weeks for the city of Norfolk to cave in and beg the Navy to come back.
Fast forward to 2026
Now, let's say that we pull out of NATO. What do you imagine will happen to the cities those bases are in?
Classic Euro deflection, no problem is their own fault, it's those brutish Americans or those dastardly Russians...
What am I funding? Oh just European healthcare with my tax dollars.
You wouldn't have anything without the US man, stop pretending otherwise. +
They're already collapsing and doing a fine job of it.
Johnny One Note. You've said this 50 times on this Board. MODS, can we please get this man to tone down his Dividing of Nations and Good People.
Chukna (Russian curse word for person from Finland) is a Russian. He has been spreading this disinformation for months now.
I used to feel a little bit of empathy for Russians, but he is slowly making me want to go all out.
So, WE have been footing the bill for their socialist health "care."
Yes, and even though you have done that it haven't prevented their socialist health "care" systems from going bankrupt or collapsing.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/03/finland-government-collapses-over-universal-health-care-costs-bernie2020-hardest-hit/
For sure.
Don't forget military too!!
Which is exactly why I said in another post we should exit NATO ASAP. We'll collapse the EU, the leeches will leave, and the peasants just might revolt.
And their price fixing has pushed R&D costs on Americans.
100%!!!