I am hearing conflicting messages. It really doesn't sound like you are waiting on the final act - it sounds like you want to take some kind of action outside the information & political sphere.
If you're hearing that from all I've said, I think it's what you want to hear. If anything, I'd like more action by Kash and Bondi, and I'm certainly not alone in that.
I think the best thing you could do right now is study the Q drops. There are fundamental concepts that need to be incorporated into your analysis of current events in order to see them with any clarity.
You're interpretation is no more concrete than anyone else's, where there is room for interpretation. No one can agree on things like what "Watch the water" means, be it snake venom or the Potomac sewage, or some of the other things in the drops. Can you?
Not trying to be mean, but Instead of talking down to people, and acting like you're in the know because of your faith, how about just being conversational, eh? You have your interpretations and others have their own. Neither you or anyone else is right, at this moment in time. And it certainly doesn't mean we all echo a mentality of accepting monarchs as the true rulers.
Actually, some people agree on <this interpretation> and others agree on <that interpretation>, all the time. If you miss this point, you're ignoring certain realities.
You're interpretation is no more concrete...
I know you are talking to Don't Tread here, but I think this approach is essentially moral relativism.
Obviously, Q had intentions when they posted and said certain things. Not knowing what is the 'right' or correct interpretation doesn't mean all interpretations are equal.
You're saying that Don't's interpretation is <no more concrete> is essentially just you admitting <I have no idea whether its a good interpretation or not>. Fair enough, but then you do not get to claim that interpretation is <no more correct>. Just admit that you don't know, and have no idea, or own the interpretation that you yourself have adopted.
It's clear that you have your interpretations, but you seem to want to avoid any moral responsibility for that by saying (paraphrase) 'hey, all interpretations are equal, and no one can know which is better'.
Neither you or anyone else is right, at this moment in time.
It seems like you think there is no actual right way of understanding, so any and every understanding can/should be ignored. Except the one you yourself have arrived at, guiding you to make your choice to "Just sit(ting) back waiting on the final act."
I'm not criticizing that. If that's your view, it's your view.
Obviously, there are limitations on what we can definitively understand. The Q drops deliberately employ a Socratic method, not to give people answers, but to get them to question.
it certainly doesn't mean we all echo a mentality of accepting monarchs as the true rulers.
You've misrepresented what I wrote. I never said "all", and I absolutely do not think that all echo that mentality.
No, I don't think every understanding can/should be ignored. It's that sometimes the drops speak plainly, and they don't. I understand that "disinfo is necessary," and I've even toyed with the idea that sometimes that disinfo may even have been necessarily used on us. With that in mind, I try to parse the drops for what is something with actual meat, and what is just "fluff" for those black hats who undoubtedly have gone over the drops too.
So I think there is a right way to interpret them (not saying I know what it is), but I also believe there is a lot of noise coming from people, such as those who are eager to be the first to crack the code for the sake of clout, like Paytriots. Some people see it and run with it, without proper discernment, and it turns out to be a red herring or something. I watched the "snake venom in the water supply" thing play out. To me, that was kind of a low point for this whole thing, because it just didn't hold water (no pun intended) under basic scrutiny.
That's what I mean by sitting back and waiting for the final act of this movie.
I pretty much agree with the framework you describe about understanding or thinking about the drops. Good approach.
I also believe there is a lot of noise coming from people, such as those who are eager to be the first to crack the code for the sake of clout, like Paytriots
100%. Such people are a scourge on the movement, and in effect are traitors, putting their own gain - whether it is $$$ or it is ego - ahead of the ultimate purpose of the work, which is to wake up and help others wake up and exercise discernment as a first step to accomplishing the task of destroying the corrupt system.
Some people see it and run with it, without proper discernment
Yeah, so true. And, they aren't helping!
I'm not 100% sure if I grasp what 'sitting back and waiting for the final act' means for you, but I will say, in warfare (and we are currently in THE 5G war to end all wars), judicious assignment of resources and tactical maneuverability are important.
i.e. how, where and when you assign your energy - mental, emotional, spiritual and physical - is a tactical choice.
I don't know if there are other things you could be doing (obviously), but it sounds like you are making a tactical decision based on how you read the lay of the land.
One suggestion: if you have the time/space, trying making some posts. Outline your thinking, or problems you are grappling with (even mentally), and share them in posts.
For example, the issue you describe about people attempting to run for public office in strongly blue areas, these are relevant to what we are doing here. You never know, there may be others here who have encountered the same thing, or who have ideas on how to work around the situation, etc.
The real power of board like this (and there are not many around, afaik) is the amplification of impact we achieve through sharing as a collective, aka the hive mind. Expanding our thinking, collectively and individually, advances the goal.
Anyway, thank you very much for making the effort to reply and share your thinking. Valuable, imo.
You said you are not pleased with progress made...and yet you are content waiting for the next act and do not think it worth your trouble to get involved in local politics. Nothing in there is "what I want to hear" they are your words.
This forum is for people who support and are familiar with Q. Do not confuse friendly advice for condescension. If you are not willing to inform yourself of the basic lessons Q taught us then your time here will be short.
Am I the only one to express displeasure at the speed (or perceived lack thereof) of progress on this board? Many people have called for the firing of Bondi or Kash on here, or at least expressed their distrust of one or the other.
I live in a blue state, I really don't think someone who is MAGA would win in it. I never said it was not worth my trouble; I said
Not many are ready to have their name dragged through the mud, or their past dug up and twisted. And assuming a failed run, there's no guarantee those people can return to their careers. Unfortunately we live in a climate where being openly MAGA can be seen as a detriment in private sector companies, depending on where one lives or where one works still. And that's despite some of the recent cultural wins.
There have been great candidates who haven't won, explicitly because of those tactics we see daily. It's worth my trouble, but there is no path to victory, yet.
And as for your words, and I know its a sidebar rule, you said
I am hearing conflicting messages. It really doesn't sound like you are waiting on the final act -** it sounds like you want to take some kind of action outside the information & political sphere.**
When that is not what I have ever expressed, especially when I said
(and I'm not suggesting it or condoning it but pointing out one possible outcome)
In the response above. Is that why you turned your mod flair on?
I support Q, and I'm trying to learn, that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to have questions along the way.
I think this is an interesting discussion, and I feel like, as I read through your comments to u/DontTreadOnIT I feel like some aspects of your viewpoint are filtering through.
Mutual understanding requires a certain level of engagement aka back and forth, to refine the communication channel so that both sides can achieve a common wavelength. Sometimes its there from the get go, in other cases, it takes time and effort.
I think you make some good, aka understandable points. And, I can also see from some of your comments that your interpretation of what I've written is not the same as mine (meaning, what you get from what I wrote is not the same as what I was attempting to express).
Final comment: I think Don't Tread has simply been attempting to engage with you in a productive way, but text is limited at the best of times, so perhaps be aware that maybe you're not picking up his signal quite as clearly as you think, especially if you think that he's not picking up your signal as clearly as he thinks. (hope you get that).
re: mod tag: I think that the platform automatically inserts that depending on whether a user is logged in simply as <user> or as <moderator>. In earlier comment's Tread was probably simply not logged in as a mod.
All the mods login in as users, or mods, at different times. (Yes, they actually have a schedule and roster to cover the board at certain times.)
I support Q, and I'm trying to learn, that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to have questions along the way.
I think you make some good, aka understandable points. And, I can also see from some of your comments that your interpretation of what I've written is not the same as mine (meaning, what you get from what I wrote is not the same as what I was attempting to express).
I've seen the back-and-forth between "There is a Plan" and "We are the Plan": some people believe that Q is doing everything in the background, and there isn't much for us to do; others think it's up to us, essentially.
Obviously, there are things we regular people can't do that Q are capable of (the heavy lifting), and just as obviously, Q can't run the country lol. So I get that there are things we have to do, like waking people up, filling seats, and so on. The thing I'm personally trying to figure out is where, or maybe when, those two things will meet.
I've talked to some local MAGA people who ran for office, didn't even get 1% of the vote (vote manipulation most likely), and people who ran on the issues, had their names dragged through the mud, their personal lives placed under a microscope, and ultimately bullied into dropping out for just having a different opinion/different approach. These people aren't interested in going through that again, which is a big loss because we then get stuck with RINOs.
And I admit this may have affected my interpretations.
You have walked onto the battlefield in the middle of a raging information war. The people on this board have been independently learning and observing for years. If you want to participate then understand that there is a baseline level of self-education required.
Your line of questioning suggests to me that you have not put in the work. Your attitude suggests that you are not willing. We'll see what happens.
If you're hearing that from all I've said, I think it's what you want to hear. If anything, I'd like more action by Kash and Bondi, and I'm certainly not alone in that.
You're interpretation is no more concrete than anyone else's, where there is room for interpretation. No one can agree on things like what "Watch the water" means, be it snake venom or the Potomac sewage, or some of the other things in the drops. Can you?
Not trying to be mean, but Instead of talking down to people, and acting like you're in the know because of your faith, how about just being conversational, eh? You have your interpretations and others have their own. Neither you or anyone else is right, at this moment in time. And it certainly doesn't mean we all echo a mentality of accepting monarchs as the true rulers.
Have a good one.
Actually, some people agree on <this interpretation> and others agree on <that interpretation>, all the time. If you miss this point, you're ignoring certain realities.
I know you are talking to Don't Tread here, but I think this approach is essentially moral relativism.
Obviously, Q had intentions when they posted and said certain things. Not knowing what is the 'right' or correct interpretation doesn't mean all interpretations are equal.
You're saying that Don't's interpretation is <no more concrete> is essentially just you admitting <I have no idea whether its a good interpretation or not>. Fair enough, but then you do not get to claim that interpretation is <no more correct>. Just admit that you don't know, and have no idea, or own the interpretation that you yourself have adopted.
It's clear that you have your interpretations, but you seem to want to avoid any moral responsibility for that by saying (paraphrase) 'hey, all interpretations are equal, and no one can know which is better'.
It seems like you think there is no actual right way of understanding, so any and every understanding can/should be ignored. Except the one you yourself have arrived at, guiding you to make your choice to "Just sit(ting) back waiting on the final act."
I'm not criticizing that. If that's your view, it's your view.
Obviously, there are limitations on what we can definitively understand. The Q drops deliberately employ a Socratic method, not to give people answers, but to get them to question.
You've misrepresented what I wrote. I never said "all", and I absolutely do not think that all echo that mentality.
No, I don't think every understanding can/should be ignored. It's that sometimes the drops speak plainly, and they don't. I understand that "disinfo is necessary," and I've even toyed with the idea that sometimes that disinfo may even have been necessarily used on us. With that in mind, I try to parse the drops for what is something with actual meat, and what is just "fluff" for those black hats who undoubtedly have gone over the drops too.
So I think there is a right way to interpret them (not saying I know what it is), but I also believe there is a lot of noise coming from people, such as those who are eager to be the first to crack the code for the sake of clout, like Paytriots. Some people see it and run with it, without proper discernment, and it turns out to be a red herring or something. I watched the "snake venom in the water supply" thing play out. To me, that was kind of a low point for this whole thing, because it just didn't hold water (no pun intended) under basic scrutiny.
That's what I mean by sitting back and waiting for the final act of this movie.
Thanks for the reply!
I pretty much agree with the framework you describe about understanding or thinking about the drops. Good approach.
100%. Such people are a scourge on the movement, and in effect are traitors, putting their own gain - whether it is $$$ or it is ego - ahead of the ultimate purpose of the work, which is to wake up and help others wake up and exercise discernment as a first step to accomplishing the task of destroying the corrupt system.
Yeah, so true. And, they aren't helping!
I'm not 100% sure if I grasp what 'sitting back and waiting for the final act' means for you, but I will say, in warfare (and we are currently in THE 5G war to end all wars), judicious assignment of resources and tactical maneuverability are important.
i.e. how, where and when you assign your energy - mental, emotional, spiritual and physical - is a tactical choice.
I don't know if there are other things you could be doing (obviously), but it sounds like you are making a tactical decision based on how you read the lay of the land.
One suggestion: if you have the time/space, trying making some posts. Outline your thinking, or problems you are grappling with (even mentally), and share them in posts.
For example, the issue you describe about people attempting to run for public office in strongly blue areas, these are relevant to what we are doing here. You never know, there may be others here who have encountered the same thing, or who have ideas on how to work around the situation, etc.
The real power of board like this (and there are not many around, afaik) is the amplification of impact we achieve through sharing as a collective, aka the hive mind. Expanding our thinking, collectively and individually, advances the goal.
Anyway, thank you very much for making the effort to reply and share your thinking. Valuable, imo.
You said you are not pleased with progress made...and yet you are content waiting for the next act and do not think it worth your trouble to get involved in local politics. Nothing in there is "what I want to hear" they are your words.
This forum is for people who support and are familiar with Q. Do not confuse friendly advice for condescension. If you are not willing to inform yourself of the basic lessons Q taught us then your time here will be short.
Am I the only one to express displeasure at the speed (or perceived lack thereof) of progress on this board? Many people have called for the firing of Bondi or Kash on here, or at least expressed their distrust of one or the other.
I live in a blue state, I really don't think someone who is MAGA would win in it. I never said it was not worth my trouble; I said
There have been great candidates who haven't won, explicitly because of those tactics we see daily. It's worth my trouble, but there is no path to victory, yet.
And as for your words, and I know its a sidebar rule, you said
When that is not what I have ever expressed, especially when I said
In the response above. Is that why you turned your mod flair on?
I support Q, and I'm trying to learn, that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to have questions along the way.
Just a comment here.
I think this is an interesting discussion, and I feel like, as I read through your comments to u/DontTreadOnIT I feel like some aspects of your viewpoint are filtering through.
Mutual understanding requires a certain level of engagement aka back and forth, to refine the communication channel so that both sides can achieve a common wavelength. Sometimes its there from the get go, in other cases, it takes time and effort.
I think you make some good, aka understandable points. And, I can also see from some of your comments that your interpretation of what I've written is not the same as mine (meaning, what you get from what I wrote is not the same as what I was attempting to express).
Final comment: I think Don't Tread has simply been attempting to engage with you in a productive way, but text is limited at the best of times, so perhaps be aware that maybe you're not picking up his signal quite as clearly as you think, especially if you think that he's not picking up your signal as clearly as he thinks. (hope you get that).
re: mod tag: I think that the platform automatically inserts that depending on whether a user is logged in simply as <user> or as <moderator>. In earlier comment's Tread was probably simply not logged in as a mod.
All the mods login in as users, or mods, at different times. (Yes, they actually have a schedule and roster to cover the board at certain times.)
100%. Keep up the engagement.
I've seen the back-and-forth between "There is a Plan" and "We are the Plan": some people believe that Q is doing everything in the background, and there isn't much for us to do; others think it's up to us, essentially.
Obviously, there are things we regular people can't do that Q are capable of (the heavy lifting), and just as obviously, Q can't run the country lol. So I get that there are things we have to do, like waking people up, filling seats, and so on. The thing I'm personally trying to figure out is where, or maybe when, those two things will meet.
I've talked to some local MAGA people who ran for office, didn't even get 1% of the vote (vote manipulation most likely), and people who ran on the issues, had their names dragged through the mud, their personal lives placed under a microscope, and ultimately bullied into dropping out for just having a different opinion/different approach. These people aren't interested in going through that again, which is a big loss because we then get stuck with RINOs.
And I admit this may have affected my interpretations.
You have walked onto the battlefield in the middle of a raging information war. The people on this board have been independently learning and observing for years. If you want to participate then understand that there is a baseline level of self-education required.
Your line of questioning suggests to me that you have not put in the work. Your attitude suggests that you are not willing. We'll see what happens.