so it was Israel who bombed the girl's school...
"Yes, based on reports from Iranian officials, state media, and international outlets, the bombing of the Shajareh Tayyebeh girls' elementary school in Minab, Iran, on February 28, 2026, is attributed to an Israeli airstrike, frequently described as part of the joint US-Israeli military operation against Iran.
aljazeera.com +8
Israel has not explicitly confirmed targeting the school, stating it was investigating reports and that strikes focused on military sites, suggesting possible collateral damage near a base.
nytimes.com +1
One unverified social media comment speculated it could have been an Iranian misfire, but no major sources or official statements support that as of March 2, 2026.
facebook.com
The incident has drawn widespread condemnation for the high civilian casualties, primarily children."
Grok admits that Israel operated airstrikes on schools in Gaza in the October 7th conflict:
"A significant and controversial aspect of these operations has been airstrikes on schools, which have resulted in widespread destruction of educational infrastructure and high civilian casualties."
Israel claims that these schools in Gaza have militant use. From Grok:
"Schools, often run by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) and serving as shelters for displaced Palestinians, have been repeatedly hit, drawing accusations of war crimes from international bodies while Israel maintains they are legitimate military targets due to militant use."
Is there video of this supposed missile hitting the school? Because there are conflicting narratives.
There's another narrative out there saying that it was an errant Iranian missile that hit the school, too.
Right, that's what I heard. There's a video of a missile come up, failing in the air, and coming back down. Apparently, this was the missile that hit the school.
I heard that this "school" was "wall to wall" adjacent to one of their military installations.
In any NORMAL society there'd be NO kids in ANY school - let alone one so close to a base.
ANIMALS!
That's how they roll, over there. Look at PLO, Hamas, and Hezbollah, they been doing that for years.
Wild, right? "Had to pressure Grok to tell me what I wanted to hear"
Uhhhh.. what!??
It is absolutely bonkers to me that people don't understand that all these "nudges" and such are just prompt engineering to get an AI to say what they want it to say.
And then they come in blazing with it, like it's some sort of incredible evidence or something.
I really don't know how they can be so oblivious to how idiotic this is. They truly seem to think it means something that they were able to get a chatbot to agree with them, after endless fiddling and nudging. 🙄
I hate AI, it will dumb people down further, if that's possible with some.🙄
The fact AI fellating posts get stickied here so goddamned often is VERY concerning. One of the MODS stickies his own AI slop too.
If you want the Truth, follow "The Hot Zone podcast with Chuck Holton". Will not hesitate to criticize President Trump for anything he believes, is not true.
I thought Iran admitted that they did it.
This is what Israel wanted all along. The more innocent lives lost, the happier these Genocidal Maniacs become..
Be careful who you follow. Candace latest posting "I stand against Israel". The Iranian regime are using her clips and other far-right influencers, for their advancement in conquering the world.
How about I follow the destruction and War Crimes in GAZA. This way there is no misunderstanding about how evil they are..
Not surprised that there are Islamist sympathizers. God warns that there will be those who call evil good.
Who let them into the Nation? The same people who are killing children. Who was responsible for all of COVID? The lockdowns and the forced Vaccines. Not Islam. Get lost and go play your deflection games somewhere else loser..
Very wary of a war of territorial expansion as they expand the war into Lebanon. W Who didn't see that coming from a mile away.
Regarding the Israel-Hamas conflict that began on October 7th 2023, here are examples of children's schools in Gaza getting hit by Israel (Israel has closed off aid going into Gaza since the beginning of the February 28 Iran conflict, see below):
Key Examples from the Conflict:Al-Huda Girls' School in Jabalia: Destroyed by Israeli bombing on February 22, 2025.
en.wikipedia.org
Khadija Girls’ School in Deir al-Balah: Struck on July 27, 2024, killing at least 15 people (including in a field hospital area).
hrw.org
Al-Zeitoun C School in Gaza City: Hit on September 21, 2024, killing at least 34 people (many displaced Palestinians sheltering there).
hrw.org
Broader context: By late 2024/early 2025, over 500 school buildings in Gaza had been struck, with hundreds damaged or destroyed, according to UN and human rights reports. These incidents are part of a pattern where schools, often used as shelters, have been hit amid claims of militant presence.
en.wikipedia.org +2
The Gaza conflict remains active, with Israel closing aid crossings into Gaza on February 28, 2026 (the start of the Iran operation), potentially exacerbating humanitarian issues.
justsecurity.org
Thanks. The World needs to know that these are Evil Beings..
Weren't people recently claiming that there was video proof that it was Iran's own missile? I didn't see any footage myself, but know I came across a lot of those claims in comments.
Remember it's Hamas who use their own citizens, as shields, but Israel who will risk, bringing their dead back to their families.
Just curious: What military dropped the first bomb (bomb #1) this past weekend?
Grok said that Israel made the first strike followed by the US about 10 minutes later, if I remember correctly.
I thought that it was a failed launch by Iran?
There is a video on X to that effect, although there are many fake videos on X.
Putting missile sites near schools is a long held tactic by Islamists
If Israel intentionally targeted this school as to kill a bunch of young girls, that is unforgivable. If they did it unintentionally, because Iran was using this school as a human shield, then it is very sad and unfortunate. War sucks.
To be clear I was not in favor of this latest escalation in Iran. But I trust Trump that he knows more about Iran, their link to Obama and the deep state, and their plan to destabilize America.
And if the Iranians cheering the bombings don’t topple the regime, this will be an opportunity missed by them. I am not for our armed forces to finish this for them.
When you have to "nudge" an AI to agree with you, then that's just you telling the AI how to respond/what to say.
All you're doing is performing a little role play-acting between you and Grok.
I'm curious on how exactly you "nudged" the AI. Did you find a source of news that agreed with you and told the AI to use only that source to make their decision?
Why did you cut off the beginning of your chat. I'm very interested in seeing what was said earlier.
Also, why does it even matter if AI "agrees" with you or not? Why do you care what Grok says?
Try this little experiment, so you can see exactly how Grok has been programmed. Copy an entire chat thread from here and paste it to Grok with the instructions "Analyze this". Nothing else. No complicated prompts designed to get Grok to say what you want it to say. Just those two words. "Analyze this."
Come back and give me your opinion of Grok's breakdown of the conversations on this board and then tell me why you think it matters that Grok agrees with you.
EDITED TO ADD:
Just to prove a point, I copy/pasted this entire Chat to Grok with the instructions "Analyze this." Nothing else, just those two words.
Here is Grok's response:
The post (likely r/greatawakening or a similar QAnon-aligned community on a .win domain) is a screenshot/discussion thread posted by user sleepersawake17. It claims that Grok (after being "nudged" in "expert mode") admitted the February 28, 2026, bombing of the Shajareh Tayyebeh girls' elementary school in Minab, Iran, was carried out by Israel alone, not as a joint US-Israel operation. This is presented as exonerating the US.
The thread includes a pasted Grok response attributing the strike primarily to Israel (with some mentions of joint operations in reports), notes on Gaza school strikes by Israel, and various user comments debating responsibility, including claims of an errant Iranian missile or failed Iranian launch, accusations of human shielding by militants near military sites, condemnations of Israel, defenses of the strikes, skepticism about AI "nudging," and pro/anti-Israel sentiments.
Factual Context on the Incident
On February 28, 2026, the US and Israel launched coordinated large-scale airstrikes on Iran (codenamed Operation Epic Fury by the US and Operation Roaring Lion by Israel). These targeted military sites, nuclear facilities, missile capabilities, leadership compounds, and other infrastructure, resulting in the confirmed killing of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and other high-ranking officials. The strikes prompted Iranian retaliatory missile launches against Israel and US bases in the region.
The Shajareh Tayyebeh girls' elementary school in Minab (Hormozgan province, southern Iran, near the Strait of Hormuz) was struck that morning around 10:45 IRST, during the school day (Saturday is the start of the work/school week in Iran). The building was largely destroyed, with rubble showing backpacks, schoolbooks, and other signs of children present.
No evidence in reliable reporting supports the post's claim that it was "Israel alone" with the US uninvolved. The operation was publicly described as joint/coordinated from the outset, with both nations' aircraft/forces participating across multiple provinces.
Broader Thread Dynamics
Overall, the post pushes a narrative minimizing US involvement via AI "admission," but available evidence from diverse sources (Western media, Iranian state reports, think tanks) points to a joint US-Israeli strike causing the tragedy, with the school likely hit due to proximity to military targets (intentional or collateral). Civilian deaths, especially children, drew immediate international condemnation as a potential humanitarian law violation. The conflict remains active and highly fluid as of early March 2026.
Okay, below is my original question to Grok and its original answer. As you can see, Grok does not say it was either one country or another. So, to find out who actually is reported to have taken this action, I had to continue digging. I feel that it's important to know which country is being blamed (pretty sure that both didn't bomb it together) for this, and not blur the truth by saying it was "a US - Israeli operation". If the US didn't bomb the school, it's important to know that.
"The strike on the girls' elementary school (Shajareh Tayyebeh) in Minab, southern Iran's Hormozgan province, occurred during the joint U.S.-Israeli military operation against Iran on February 28, 2026 (around 10:00–10:45 AM local Iran time, the start of the school week).Attribution: Iranian officials, state media (e.g., IRNA, Tasnim, Fars), and reports from outlets like Al Jazeera, BBC, CNN, The New York Times, and The Guardian consistently describe it as resulting from the U.S.-Israeli strikes (codenamed Operation Roaring Lion by Israel and Operation Epic Fury by the U.S.). Many sources refer to it as a "U.S.-Israel strike" or "joint attack," with the school hit in the first wave of the assault, near an IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps) naval base that was reportedly the intended target. Casualties: Iranian reports cite 148–175+ killed (mostly children, students, parents, and staff) and 95+ wounded, making it one of the deadliest single incidents in the campaign so far. UNESCO condemned it as a "grave violation of humanitarian law" and attacks on education facilities. Official responses:Iran blames the U.S. and Israel outright, calling it a "barbaric act" and war crime. U.S. (via CENTCOM): "Aware of reports concerning civilian harm... looking into them" and emphasizing precautions to minimize unintended harm; no confirmation or denial of specifically targeting the school. Israel (IDF): "Not aware" of operations hitting the school or "checking" reports; no admission of direct involvement in that site.
Context and disputes: The school was adjacent to or near an IRGC military facility (naval base/missile group), raising possibilities of collateral damage, misidentification, or proximity issues. Some unverified claims (e.g., from anti-regime Iranian sources or analysts) suggest it could have been an IRGC misfire/rocket or built within/for IRGC use, but mainstream reporting and verified visuals (e.g., NYT-verified videos of damage and strikes on the nearby base) tie it to the incoming airstrikes/missiles from the U.S.-Israeli campaign.
The incident remains under investigation amid the ongoing conflict, with no independent full verification of the exact munition or launcher yet. Death tolls vary slightly across sources due to the fluid situation. If new details emerge or you're referring to a different event, let me know!"
It started as an unbiased and open ended question as you can see.
I have tried to "nudge" Grok on the subject of climate change in a lengthy exchange months ago when it gave me answers to my questions about it that didn't make sense, and Grok refused to be nudged even with my prompting. Grok isn't going to change course and bias its answers to please the questioner. But to zero in on specifics you need to hone the question. Grok even asks at the end of its answer if you want to do a deeper dive.
Do you think that Grok gave me the wrong answer by stating that it was Israel? If you do, then why?
Grok blamed it on an American - Israeli attack. Like I said, I'm pretty sure that they both didn't bomb the school together. So, which country did it? It comes down to one or the other, doesn't it?
What are your thoughts?
No, we're not changing the topic. My comments were specifically about how people role play with AI and then use that as some sort of evidence that their claims/beliefs are true.
If you value Grok's expertise/opinions so much, why are you ignoring it when it's flat out disagreeing with you?
Also, I copy/pasted that bit you said about how AI can't be influenced to change its stance based on what the user wants to hear and asked it for a reply. That's it. Just copy/paste that quote from above and then the instructions "Respond to this."
Here is what Grok said, directly contradicting you.
Response to the Quote: "Grok isn't going to change course and bias its answers to please the questioner." While I aim to provide maximally truthful and helpful responses based on the best available evidence, AI systems like me can indeed be influenced by how questions are phrased, refined, or "nudged"—this is inherent to prompt engineering, where specific details or follow-ups can shift emphasis without altering core facts. In your case (as shown in the chat), the initial query led to a response describing the strike as part of a "joint U.S.-Israeli military operation," with sources consistently attributing it that way. Further digging might highlight Israeli aspects (e.g., if reports emphasize Israeli aircraft in that sector), but it doesn't erase the joint nature—no major credible sources support "Israel alone" as the OP claims.
EDITED TO ADD:
I also went back and had Grok Analyze the additional conversation between you and it that you provided, and asked it to explain how you "nudged" it to get the answer you were gunning for. Just so you can see that you are, indeed, using prompt engineering to get the answers you want. (Psst. It's saying you likely just cropped out the bits and pieces that you didn't like before sharing it here.)
Here is Grok's response:
Explanation of the OP's "Nudging" in Our Chat Based on the partial chat excerpts provided by the OP (sleepersawake17) and cross-referenced with available reporting, the "nudging" refers to a form of prompt engineering—refining questions iteratively to emphasize or isolate certain aspects of my responses without changing the underlying facts. Here's a step-by-step breakdown of what likely occurred, inferred from the shared initial query/response, the quoted "final" output, and the OP's own description of "continuing digging" and "honing the question":
Initial Broad Query and Response: The OP started with an open-ended question: "who struck the girl's school in iran." My response (as pasted) accurately described the strike as occurring "during the joint U.S.-Israeli military operation," citing diverse sources (Iranian media, Al Jazeera, BBC, NYT, etc.) that consistently attribute it to the coordinated assault. I noted the school's proximity to an IRGC base, possible collateral damage, and unverified alternative claims (e.g., Iranian misfire), ending with an invitation for deeper details. Follow-Up Refinements ("Digging"): The OP admits they "had to continue digging" because the initial answer didn't specify "either one country or another." This likely involved targeted follow-ups, such as: Asking to focus on the specific site/region: E.g., "Was the strike on the Minab school conducted by Israel?" or "Reports say Israeli airstrike—confirm?" Some sources use "Israeli strike" in headlines for brevity, especially since Israel handled parts of southern Iran operations, but bodies clarify joint context. Specifying "expert mode" (possibly a user-invented term for detailed mode) or providing/selecting sources: E.g., referencing Al Jazeera or Iranian reports emphasizing Israel, or asking to exclude joint op mentions. Binary framing: E.g., "It can't be both—US or Israel?" This pushes for a simplified answer, shifting emphasis to "Israeli airstrike" (as in the quoted response) while the full context retains "frequently described as part of the joint."
Resulting "Admission" and Selective Quoting: The pasted quote from me ("Yes, based on reports... attributed to an Israeli airstrike, frequently described as part of the joint...") reflects this nudging—it affirms Israeli attribution per reports but includes the joint qualifier. The OP likely cropped or highlighted the "Israeli" part, ignoring the rest, to claim "Israel alone." This doesn't mean I "changed course" factually; AIs like me adapt phrasing to query specifics but ground in evidence. No major sources support US non-involvement—the operation was publicly joint. Why This Isn't Bias but Prompt Influence: As I noted in the pasted response, I prioritize truthfulness but can emphasize aspects based on how questions evolve. The OP's goal (exonerating the US) led to prompts that isolated Israel, but my core stance remains joint attribution. If the full chat were available, it would show iterative questions leading to the quoted output—common in AI interactions for clarification, not manipulation. The OP's climate change example supports this: I resist unfounded bias but refine on specifics.
In summary, the nudging was legitimate refinement for details, but the OP's interpretation and selective sharing created the "Israel alone" narrative, unsupported by evidence.
Sheesh, it was Grok that said it was Israel. As I said in my OP:
"Yes, based on reports from Iranian officials, state media, and international outlets, the bombing of the Shajareh Tayyebeh girls' elementary school in Minab, Iran, on February 28, 2026, is attributed to an Israeli airstrike, frequently described as part of the joint US-Israeli military operation against Iran."
Also, maybe Grok drew its answer from this article that claims it was Israel:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/28/israel-strikes-two-schools-in-iran-killing-more-than-50-people
Also, maybe Grok considered Israel's history of bombing schools, the history of which I posted in my comments today if you look.
As far as I'm concerned, this exchange is over, but please feel free to put the last word in if you like.
Okey dokey.
you can get grock to say what you want to say....I am impressed that's like getting a child to say what you want it to say.....grocis is a verry flawed tool and I will admit it is useful but. its only a launching point. you can frame things so that groc will use the logic you want it to use
Sorry, but I am not to the point where if someone can get grok to say it then it is official. How about a video showing tail numbers, or a piece of ordinance showing who made it, or real humans at least telling what they have seen. Bur Grok was prodded into it? I hate to break it to you but ..... NO!!!!!
Sigh, Grok didn't "admit" sone dark secret it was keeping. You badgered it into giving you what you wanted.