The entire personal computer market is rigged. The cartel that runs it subsists on planned obsolescence for hardware, and software, and artificially fabricated customer "needs" that do not match reality.
The only reason a lot of modern software requires a HAL-9000 super-computer to run it is because the software is badly coded, bloated, DEI garbage that can barely run.
What these crooked bastards call "well optimized" software today, was basic industry standards programming quality a few decades ago.
It's like building a modern car with a uranium body and frame, aerodynamics of a brick, and a 1 speed transmission, and wondering why it requires a 1,000 horsepower engine to perform as well as older cars.
Also, a lot of it comes down to the internet / bloated web pages.
If you pull out a high end computer from 2000, say a Pentium III with 512MB of RAM, you can get a lightweight OS or even an old OS running. No issues running stuff like a word processor, or an editor. You can even get modern browsers that run on ancient platforms (both OSes and hardware)
But, you quickly find the bloatedness of the modern web with libraries and libraries... now with vibe coded bloated crap, make loading most web pages unreasonable. For scale, if you mouse over a Chrome tab, it now shows the memory usage for a page, and it's not uncommon to see a mundane news article page using a couple hundred MB of RAM.
Note, I can't recommend using such a system on the internet for security reasons, this should only be viewed as a toy.
So for reference,
MyPal is a modernized Firefox that runs on XP SP2 and Server 2003, requires a Pentium 4 or newer
Supermium is Chrome that can run on as far back as XP SP1, I think it also requires a Pentium 4 (SSE2)
This guy still builds browsers for Windows that will run on a Pentium II (both forks of Firefox, the IA-32 build runs on a Pentium II, possibly even the original Pentium)
https://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser?m=1
Someone did a video where he did modern work with a Pentium II from 1998 (with 1GB of RAM):
https://youtu.be/MZOyP8GCERk?si=HwJtbBx2kBrBZry6
Edit: the video poster's pinned comment discusses using New Moon (rtfreesoft browser) - and noted it can run anything but just very slowly.
MyPal is a modernized Firefox that runs on XP SP2 and Server 2003, requires a Pentium 4 or newer
Supermium is Chrome that can run on as far back as XP SP1, I think it also requires a Pentium 4 (SSE2)
Thanks for that fren!
I've got an old Sager lappy with a 6GB QuadroFX & 32G of RAM on 8.1 pro... recently chrome whined that it won't run on it and couldn't update oh noes not THAT! - Mainly I just use it for web access and music in the shop. It's from 2014 and still really quick - even runs CAD and ZBrush with no problem...
While we're sharing:
Here's a couple of utilities I really like:
Open Shell - Makes windows 10/11 look like Win7 (button, menus etc) :
Ya, thats cool stuff. FYI there is a new OS soon to be released that is some kind of a modernized clone of Windows NT Server 2000. I forget the name of it, but early reviews claim it's pretty good.
It costs Billions and takes a year or 2 to get new factories up and running. It's possible they're just being cautious if the AI bubble pops and demand lowers, they've already made this mistake in the past resulting in oversupply and losing billions. I might give em the benefit of the doubt on this one. https://youtu.be/-YNk9_e4pg4?t=548
There were a few users freaking out that AI was driving DRAM prices up. Turns out its the usual suspects, kek.
it is true that crucial (micron) left the commercial market place.
Left the consumer market place, they're focusing on datacenter and OEM contracts.
https://investors.micron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/micron-announces-exit-crucial-consumer-business
The idea that people can seize the Memes of Production from the comfort of their own homes keeps bad people up at night.
u/#burry
The entire personal computer market is rigged. The cartel that runs it subsists on planned obsolescence for hardware, and software, and artificially fabricated customer "needs" that do not match reality.
The only reason a lot of modern software requires a HAL-9000 super-computer to run it is because the software is badly coded, bloated, DEI garbage that can barely run.
What these crooked bastards call "well optimized" software today, was basic industry standards programming quality a few decades ago.
It's like building a modern car with a uranium body and frame, aerodynamics of a brick, and a 1 speed transmission, and wondering why it requires a 1,000 horsepower engine to perform as well as older cars.
Also, a lot of it comes down to the internet / bloated web pages.
If you pull out a high end computer from 2000, say a Pentium III with 512MB of RAM, you can get a lightweight OS or even an old OS running. No issues running stuff like a word processor, or an editor. You can even get modern browsers that run on ancient platforms (both OSes and hardware)
But, you quickly find the bloatedness of the modern web with libraries and libraries... now with vibe coded bloated crap, make loading most web pages unreasonable. For scale, if you mouse over a Chrome tab, it now shows the memory usage for a page, and it's not uncommon to see a mundane news article page using a couple hundred MB of RAM.
Note, I can't recommend using such a system on the internet for security reasons, this should only be viewed as a toy.
So for reference,
This guy still builds browsers for Windows that will run on a Pentium II (both forks of Firefox, the IA-32 build runs on a Pentium II, possibly even the original Pentium) https://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/search/label/browser?m=1
Someone did a video where he did modern work with a Pentium II from 1998 (with 1GB of RAM): https://youtu.be/MZOyP8GCERk?si=HwJtbBx2kBrBZry6 Edit: the video poster's pinned comment discusses using New Moon (rtfreesoft browser) - and noted it can run anything but just very slowly.
Thanks for that fren!
I've got an old Sager lappy with a 6GB QuadroFX & 32G of RAM on 8.1 pro... recently chrome whined that it won't run on it and couldn't update oh noes not THAT! - Mainly I just use it for web access and music in the shop. It's from 2014 and still really quick - even runs CAD and ZBrush with no problem...
While we're sharing:
Here's a couple of utilities I really like:
Open Shell - Makes windows 10/11 look like Win7 (button, menus etc) :
https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/
Winaero Tweaker:
Let's YOU decide when Windows updates install - If at all!!!... NOT them & other options you may want toggled on or off.
https://winaero.com/winaero-tweaker/
u/#insomnia
Ya, thats cool stuff. FYI there is a new OS soon to be released that is some kind of a modernized clone of Windows NT Server 2000. I forget the name of it, but early reviews claim it's pretty good.
Yeah, I use laptops which are nearly 15 years old. They work fine with Linux.
Ed Zachary...
99% would be just fine with a browser & "thin client" architecture...
Gaming obviously needs better hardware and of course anyone doing 3D/CAD work certainly NOT those just 3D printing trinkets off twinkiverse
Always has been! There was price fixing for hard drivers decades ago too.
It costs Billions and takes a year or 2 to get new factories up and running. It's possible they're just being cautious if the AI bubble pops and demand lowers, they've already made this mistake in the past resulting in oversupply and losing billions. I might give em the benefit of the doubt on this one. https://youtu.be/-YNk9_e4pg4?t=548
Trust the gamers to uncover the meta.
I'm sorry but I won't trust the gamers to uncover anything ever again.
Not since those same gamers were responsible for uncovering those awful photos of Zoe Quinn...
naked