Here's the problem though. This isn't something ridiculous like Flat Earthers. I was incredibly skeptical of chemtrails/spraying for many years. But there is a voluminous amount of evidence including dozens of public patents, slips by powerful people on camera and people doing good science on the ground after an area has been sprayed (heavy, toxic metals being found immediately after spraying).
People should always be skeptical. God knows there's innumerable subjects that I outright dismissed for years before seeing evidence that literally dragged me down the rabbit hole.
This is a subject that should not be so controversial, especially on this board.
And let's use some common sense. With all we know about what the Cabal has done to our finances, our food, our genetics, and our health, why should it be that difficult to believe that they'd be spraying us with heavy metals?
What got me past many of my "its just contrails" frens is telling them to look up the difference between "Chemtrails" and Geoengineering. As in do a separate search of each topic and compare the details you find.
Chemtrails will give you all the tin foil hat crazy conspiracy stuff.
The problem is that the chemtrail retards cannot get their story straight. What's the poison? As we know, neither the Tennessee Bill nor the Florida bill identified what the substance being sprayed is. What's the purpose? Geoengineering, blocking the sun, that's what was banned in the Tennessee and Florida bills. But no, the chem trailers say that we are being intentionally poisoned. So it's barium, aluminum, except, these people don't understand how jet engines work. I have held an injector from a GE Leap 1B jet engine. It's incredibly intricate, people don't understand how precise these jet engines are. Are they poisoning us? I would absolutely not hesitate to snort an entire line of aluminum oxide. IT IS NOT A BIOLOGICALLY MOBILE SUBSTANCE. LOOK UP WHAT THAT MEANS. Does anyone know the difference in the biological poisonous nature of pure aluminum and the powder that is aluminum oxide? What do these retards think comes out of the end of a jet engine? It's oxidized. Because it's been combusted and burned. Do you know where aluminum oxide residue mostly comes from? Solid rocket boosters. Look it up. And so on it goes.
OUR FROGS ARE FREE TO DISCUSS THESE TOPICS. JUST NOT ON THIS BOARD. THIS IS THE MOAT. THIS IS THE WALL.
I have some experience with the items you're listing as I spent 5 years working for Northrop Grumman back in the day on closely related subjects. One of my degrees is in chemistry.
I'm well aware it's a "wall".
You'll never find a post made by me on this subject.
My initial post was simply one of curiosity as misinformation on other subjects is not treated with nearly as much hostility.
Its one thing to say it. But for proper research, you need to reference the evidence through direct links to the actual reports and statements.
Dont just mention the patents, reference them. Link them with good statements and more reseach how they could be used.
Link/post the public figures statements, so they can be analyzed further. The people can then be researched further for how it links. Bank records, payoffs, board member associations. Those in the know are involved and can be exposed.
Heavy metals need time-indexed to specific times, so can be cross-checked with flight logs. Compared to type of aircraft, and other specific info to identify the aircraft, which might be FOIA'ed for any strange modifications like chemical holding tanks, sprayer assemblies, relations to companies that do those things.
Lots of good research starts out with individual strings, which eventually expose a pattern, which can end up showing the tapestry.
I'm not aware of any of this having been done by anyone. Heavy metal in soils is real, but no one has linked it to anything substantial outside of conjecture.
I dont think mods would be objective to this type of research.
"Its one thing to say it. But for proper research, you need to reference the evidence through direct links to the actual reports and statements."
I'll stop you right there. I have zero interest in spending hours collating the hard data I have on this subject and presenting here when there's already enormous headwinds from the moderators. It's time I don't have for little to no reward.
"Heavy metals need time-indexed to specific times, so can be cross-checked with flight logs."
There have been several scientific teams that have performed before & after samplings of the water and surface areas (grass, trees, etc). There's no cross checking flight logs. These planes are nearly always unmarked and nearly always do not have transponders (or disabled transponders) despite the legal requirement.
There are many people out there that have done good, meticulous work on this subject.
The reason for my post is simply confusion. To be brutally candid, GAW is deluged by terrible posts that have not been validated, corroborated or properly sourced on a daily basis. But GeoEngineering and CT posts are verboten and have been for a very long time. That is to say nothing of the other extremely fringe, less-supported theories that frequently find their way onto this board.
Again, I have zero interest in burning the hours required to do posts on this subject that are up to my personal standard. My original post was simply about me being curious as to why this is a hot button issue. Doubly so when anecdotally, I'd say the majority of the community thinks there's a "there there".
The problem is is that when contrails conditions are prevalent, all jets leave contrails equally. Is your argument that all jets are spraying, or only some jets are spring? Yes we have patents for spraying aerosols from airplanes. But how do we explain the absence of dedicated tanks in the airplanes? I know so many aircraft mechanics from my time working in the airlines. I have never once met someone that actually works in aircraft maintenance or operations that believes in chemtrails. They know that it is absolutely patiently ridiculous. Explain the mechanism. If there's no dedicated tanks and spraying, or injection into the engine, because we don't have those systems, then it must be in the fuel. Okay, well, as I reference above in a different comment, I worked in airline refueling after high school, we sample the jet fuel every time we refill in order to prove that we did not give them contaminated fuel. Nobody cared as long as I filed the vials. If I had taken a second vial of fuel a sample home in my jacket nobody would have cared. Because nobody cares because nothing's in the fuel.
This is simply not true. There have been multiple posts from mods over the years stating that anyone posting about it will get a temp ban. There was no discernment.
Again (in reference to my first reply to you), this isn't a hill that I have any interest in dying on. It's a subject of research for me but there are far larger problems in the world that have the bulk of my attention.
It's simply curiosity on my part as to why this subject is treated differently around here.
I remember a time where you risked being banned if you talked about this reality on GAW.
Only because of lack of evidence and bad/no research. Credible discussions were kept.
Problem is, this is not an easily researched topic with tons of evidence.
Here's the problem though. This isn't something ridiculous like Flat Earthers. I was incredibly skeptical of chemtrails/spraying for many years. But there is a voluminous amount of evidence including dozens of public patents, slips by powerful people on camera and people doing good science on the ground after an area has been sprayed (heavy, toxic metals being found immediately after spraying).
People should always be skeptical. God knows there's innumerable subjects that I outright dismissed for years before seeing evidence that literally dragged me down the rabbit hole.
This is a subject that should not be so controversial, especially on this board.
And let's use some common sense. With all we know about what the Cabal has done to our finances, our food, our genetics, and our health, why should it be that difficult to believe that they'd be spraying us with heavy metals?
What got me past many of my "its just contrails" frens is telling them to look up the difference between "Chemtrails" and Geoengineering. As in do a separate search of each topic and compare the details you find.
Chemtrails will give you all the tin foil hat crazy conspiracy stuff.
Geoengineering will give you the sCiEnCe!
Step one, look at the sky regularly comparing con trails to chem trails with your own eyeballs
Step two, look up Stardust Solutions, TN Senate Bill 2691 etc.
The problem is that the chemtrail retards cannot get their story straight. What's the poison? As we know, neither the Tennessee Bill nor the Florida bill identified what the substance being sprayed is. What's the purpose? Geoengineering, blocking the sun, that's what was banned in the Tennessee and Florida bills. But no, the chem trailers say that we are being intentionally poisoned. So it's barium, aluminum, except, these people don't understand how jet engines work. I have held an injector from a GE Leap 1B jet engine. It's incredibly intricate, people don't understand how precise these jet engines are. Are they poisoning us? I would absolutely not hesitate to snort an entire line of aluminum oxide. IT IS NOT A BIOLOGICALLY MOBILE SUBSTANCE. LOOK UP WHAT THAT MEANS. Does anyone know the difference in the biological poisonous nature of pure aluminum and the powder that is aluminum oxide? What do these retards think comes out of the end of a jet engine? It's oxidized. Because it's been combusted and burned. Do you know where aluminum oxide residue mostly comes from? Solid rocket boosters. Look it up. And so on it goes.
OUR FROGS ARE FREE TO DISCUSS THESE TOPICS. JUST NOT ON THIS BOARD. THIS IS THE MOAT. THIS IS THE WALL.
I have some experience with the items you're listing as I spent 5 years working for Northrop Grumman back in the day on closely related subjects. One of my degrees is in chemistry.
I'm well aware it's a "wall".
You'll never find a post made by me on this subject.
My initial post was simply one of curiosity as misinformation on other subjects is not treated with nearly as much hostility.
Great comments/questions.
Hard to believe? No.
Hard to prove? Thats different.
Its one thing to say it. But for proper research, you need to reference the evidence through direct links to the actual reports and statements.
Dont just mention the patents, reference them. Link them with good statements and more reseach how they could be used.
Link/post the public figures statements, so they can be analyzed further. The people can then be researched further for how it links. Bank records, payoffs, board member associations. Those in the know are involved and can be exposed.
Heavy metals need time-indexed to specific times, so can be cross-checked with flight logs. Compared to type of aircraft, and other specific info to identify the aircraft, which might be FOIA'ed for any strange modifications like chemical holding tanks, sprayer assemblies, relations to companies that do those things.
Lots of good research starts out with individual strings, which eventually expose a pattern, which can end up showing the tapestry.
I'm not aware of any of this having been done by anyone. Heavy metal in soils is real, but no one has linked it to anything substantial outside of conjecture.
I dont think mods would be objective to this type of research.
"Its one thing to say it. But for proper research, you need to reference the evidence through direct links to the actual reports and statements."
I'll stop you right there. I have zero interest in spending hours collating the hard data I have on this subject and presenting here when there's already enormous headwinds from the moderators. It's time I don't have for little to no reward.
"Heavy metals need time-indexed to specific times, so can be cross-checked with flight logs."
There have been several scientific teams that have performed before & after samplings of the water and surface areas (grass, trees, etc). There's no cross checking flight logs. These planes are nearly always unmarked and nearly always do not have transponders (or disabled transponders) despite the legal requirement.
There are many people out there that have done good, meticulous work on this subject.
The reason for my post is simply confusion. To be brutally candid, GAW is deluged by terrible posts that have not been validated, corroborated or properly sourced on a daily basis. But GeoEngineering and CT posts are verboten and have been for a very long time. That is to say nothing of the other extremely fringe, less-supported theories that frequently find their way onto this board.
Again, I have zero interest in burning the hours required to do posts on this subject that are up to my personal standard. My original post was simply about me being curious as to why this is a hot button issue. Doubly so when anecdotally, I'd say the majority of the community thinks there's a "there there".
The problem is is that when contrails conditions are prevalent, all jets leave contrails equally. Is your argument that all jets are spraying, or only some jets are spring? Yes we have patents for spraying aerosols from airplanes. But how do we explain the absence of dedicated tanks in the airplanes? I know so many aircraft mechanics from my time working in the airlines. I have never once met someone that actually works in aircraft maintenance or operations that believes in chemtrails. They know that it is absolutely patiently ridiculous. Explain the mechanism. If there's no dedicated tanks and spraying, or injection into the engine, because we don't have those systems, then it must be in the fuel. Okay, well, as I reference above in a different comment, I worked in airline refueling after high school, we sample the jet fuel every time we refill in order to prove that we did not give them contaminated fuel. Nobody cared as long as I filed the vials. If I had taken a second vial of fuel a sample home in my jacket nobody would have cared. Because nobody cares because nothing's in the fuel.
I'll also add in regard to this statement:
"Credible discussions were kept."
This is simply not true. There have been multiple posts from mods over the years stating that anyone posting about it will get a temp ban. There was no discernment.
Again (in reference to my first reply to you), this isn't a hill that I have any interest in dying on. It's a subject of research for me but there are far larger problems in the world that have the bulk of my attention.
It's simply curiosity on my part as to why this subject is treated differently around here.
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