HUGE issues in rural Texas right now, as just about every rural county is being hammered with AI data center proposals...locals are trying to fight every one of these resource guzzling propositions, but of course greedy land owners (sadly, most are generational inheritances of the land and couldn't care less about their grandparents farming and ranching land preservation) are seeing big $$$ while they live in large cities, far from the light pollution, noise pollution, disruption for nearby animals and birds...we are being lied to about the amount of water consumption AND electricity consumption, until it will be too late and our ranchers and farmers as well as neighbors will be running dry of well/aquifer water...when the big AI companies get serious push-back from one county, they just move on to the next county and start their bullshit proposals/tax abatement crap again...Texas needs to ban AI centers, PERIOD, says THIS 5th generation Native Texan!
locals are trying to fight every one of these resource guzzling propositions,
What resource? Water? Do you think they poison the water? Electricity then? What society has ever become worse off by fulfilling the demand for electricity?
I know of one being built here in Minnesota, they will consume a lot of power, but they won’t use a lot of water because they’re not using cooling towers. They are using what called dry coolers, dry. Coolers are more expensive to run than water, cool cooling towers, but they will not use any water. So it really comes down to electrical consumption. Anytime I hear somebody bitching about a data center. I just tell them fine. Put your phone down.
It reminds me of when Bar S built a plant in the town I used to live in. They got a bunch of tax breaks,and promised hundreds of jobs. Local poor people were looking forward to decent jobs. They imported Mexicans and drove up the local housing costs.... people who rent houses,did very good,poor people not so much.
Do they poison the water or something? Perhaps you could explain how the water going in to these buildings just disappears and becomes unusable to the local population.
Electricity isn't finite. It can be created. Here's hoping it created some local jobs for the 'they took er jobs' crowd like yourself.
They say it cant be reused. Maybe some heavy metals leach out,you can do some more research on it. Their are also other more expensive cooling options.
And yes they could supply their own electricity, but they prefer the cheaper option of hooking up to the existing grid.
I don't care if they build them 100% with their own resources. And pay full taxes,like the other business in town. Why should they get a free ride? Local government has been giving away the farm to the fuktards. Up in Utah local politicians own hundreds of acres of land nearby,that they will make bank on. The same happens all over the country....
Water is cheap and convenient, but we don't use water to cool the contents of our refrigerators. We pump the heat out into the air. Industrial canning plants do the same thing. Computer centers used air conditioning, which I think was heat exchange with the surrounding air. I think it would be fair game to forbid the use of native water for computer cooling. Same story with power production. The engine in your car produces power, and the waste heat is rejected to the AIR...not to some convenient brook. So, the more you think on it, there is more basis for pushback on water utilization. If they want to generate their own electricity (the Trump preference), more power to them. Just so long as they can synchronize with the grid in the event of a calamity that requires emergency commandeering of power.
They can also build them on the north slope of alaska. Natural gas is almost free,as their is no pipeline. And power generation is very efficient at cold temperature. Cold air is dense with more oxygen.....
To be fair, it is very difficult to build anything on the North Slope. And since most of it is permafrost, it may not be a very good idea to generate a lot of thermal power in the immediate vicinity. Why don't we urge them to the open lands of Wyoming, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas? Maybe also eastern Washington and Oregon, and southeastern Idaho?
The number itself begs explanation. If I heard "49 data centers," I would purse my lips and mumble, "Well, that's about one or two for every major city. I guess that might make sense." But 490?... 4,900?... One for every other postal zone? Will we have enough beer to slake the thirst of all the operators?
This is how grass roots grows. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/13/missouri-city-council-data-center-00867259
https://cleanview.co/data-centers/us
https://archive.ph/wip/ACxm2
...archived link...
Keep up the great work Humanity.
it's interesting that the only politicians who seem to be opposing all this are Democrats. A similar thing happened regarding support for Israel...
Absolutely everything going on right now is weird as all crap.
“Weird” being tied to witchcraft, of course.
Information is the new prison system.
All this talk about how we'll "lose the AI race" to China if we don't build these.
Race to what?
The space race had a specific goal: Walk on the moon.
No one can tell me what the so-called AI race's goal is.
So
I'll say it again:
Race to WHAT?
The joke is: AI will tell you when it gets there.
HUGE issues in rural Texas right now, as just about every rural county is being hammered with AI data center proposals...locals are trying to fight every one of these resource guzzling propositions, but of course greedy land owners (sadly, most are generational inheritances of the land and couldn't care less about their grandparents farming and ranching land preservation) are seeing big $$$ while they live in large cities, far from the light pollution, noise pollution, disruption for nearby animals and birds...we are being lied to about the amount of water consumption AND electricity consumption, until it will be too late and our ranchers and farmers as well as neighbors will be running dry of well/aquifer water...when the big AI companies get serious push-back from one county, they just move on to the next county and start their bullshit proposals/tax abatement crap again...Texas needs to ban AI centers, PERIOD, says THIS 5th generation Native Texan!
What resource? Water? Do you think they poison the water? Electricity then? What society has ever become worse off by fulfilling the demand for electricity?
I know of one being built here in Minnesota, they will consume a lot of power, but they won’t use a lot of water because they’re not using cooling towers. They are using what called dry coolers, dry. Coolers are more expensive to run than water, cool cooling towers, but they will not use any water. So it really comes down to electrical consumption. Anytime I hear somebody bitching about a data center. I just tell them fine. Put your phone down.
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"Main link behind paywall...
Archived link incomplete
Nobody can see the article - unless they're a premium subscriber."
...take a deep breath and give it another go...
https://archive.ph/wip/ACxm2
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HOWL!!!!
Post the archived link as the main link next time...Well Duh...
"Post the archived link as the main link next time...Well Duh..."
...the graphics package does not always function on an archived link...
...well duh...
...and this might come as a surprise to such a learned one as you...
...some have access to the original source via free links..
...well duh...
...finally, you post as you wish...
...and I will do accordingly...
...well duh...
Block them all. They just fuk over the local people.
Mind sharing some info on how they do so?
Stealing all the water and electricity....
Also making them listen to the damn things.
Promising jobs and then importing foreigners.
It reminds me of when Bar S built a plant in the town I used to live in. They got a bunch of tax breaks,and promised hundreds of jobs. Local poor people were looking forward to decent jobs. They imported Mexicans and drove up the local housing costs.... people who rent houses,did very good,poor people not so much.
Do they poison the water or something? Perhaps you could explain how the water going in to these buildings just disappears and becomes unusable to the local population.
Electricity isn't finite. It can be created. Here's hoping it created some local jobs for the 'they took er jobs' crowd like yourself.
They say it cant be reused. Maybe some heavy metals leach out,you can do some more research on it. Their are also other more expensive cooling options.
And yes they could supply their own electricity, but they prefer the cheaper option of hooking up to the existing grid.
I don't care if they build them 100% with their own resources. And pay full taxes,like the other business in town. Why should they get a free ride? Local government has been giving away the farm to the fuktards. Up in Utah local politicians own hundreds of acres of land nearby,that they will make bank on. The same happens all over the country....
Water is cheap and convenient, but we don't use water to cool the contents of our refrigerators. We pump the heat out into the air. Industrial canning plants do the same thing. Computer centers used air conditioning, which I think was heat exchange with the surrounding air. I think it would be fair game to forbid the use of native water for computer cooling. Same story with power production. The engine in your car produces power, and the waste heat is rejected to the AIR...not to some convenient brook. So, the more you think on it, there is more basis for pushback on water utilization. If they want to generate their own electricity (the Trump preference), more power to them. Just so long as they can synchronize with the grid in the event of a calamity that requires emergency commandeering of power.
They can also build them on the north slope of alaska. Natural gas is almost free,as their is no pipeline. And power generation is very efficient at cold temperature. Cold air is dense with more oxygen.....
To be fair, it is very difficult to build anything on the North Slope. And since most of it is permafrost, it may not be a very good idea to generate a lot of thermal power in the immediate vicinity. Why don't we urge them to the open lands of Wyoming, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas? Maybe also eastern Washington and Oregon, and southeastern Idaho?
if only there was a simple solution
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The number itself begs explanation. If I heard "49 data centers," I would purse my lips and mumble, "Well, that's about one or two for every major city. I guess that might make sense." But 490?... 4,900?... One for every other postal zone? Will we have enough beer to slake the thirst of all the operators?