Or did the FBI leak them and use Iran as the scapegoat? Either one of them are believable.
I feel that way about my dogs. it is not abnormal to form a bond as strong as family with your dogs, cats, horses, etc.......
I would absolutely use deadly force to protect my dogs just as i would any other member of my family if someone came onto my property or into my home with intent to harm or steal / kidnap them. You have the right to defend your property, just as you do your life. That is a founding principle of our Republic.
“The error seems not sufficiently eradicated, that the operations of the mind, as well as the acts of the body, are subject to the coercion of the laws. But our rulers can have authority over such natural rights only as we have submitted to them. The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to our God. The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. ... Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now. Thus in France the emetic was once forbidden as a medicine, and the potatoe as an article of food.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
“The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts as are only injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
“Our legislators are not sufficiently apprized of the rightful limits of their power; that their true office is to declare and enforce only our natural rights and duties, and to take none of them from us. No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another; and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him; every man is under the natural duty of contributing to the necessities of the society; and this is all the laws should enforce on him; and, no man having a natural right to be the judge between himself and another, it is his natural duty to submit to the umpirage of an impartial third. When the laws have declared and enforced all this, they have fulfilled their functions, and the idea is quite unfounded, that on entering into society we give up any natural right.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President Letter to Francis W. Gilmer (27 June 1816); The Writings of Thomas Jefferson edited by Ford, vol. 10, p. 32.
I want to believe that is true, but there are too many instances of police going into the homes of American gun owners illegally, or, even with a warrant, which is still illegal since the 2A prohibits any laws infringing on the preexisting right to bear arms, as conferred upon us by our Creator. They go to these homes and end up arresting or killing the gun owner, and sometimes other family members, and when the MSM reports on it, many Americans call the homeowner / gun owner crazy, radical, or call them out for not submitting to the police.
The fact is that most Americans have been brainwashed to believe police safety trumps citizen safety, and that just isn't true. Our founders were clear on that fact.
Maybe you would be in that very small percentage of people that actually stand up for their rights in the face of potentially losing their liberty, or, more seriously, their life. If so, I commend you, but I also guarantee that many people, including many from this forum, would condemn you and find all kinds of reasons to vilify you, rather than the government that ignored your rights, and the limits of their power granted by the Constitution.
There was a recent police killing of a homeowner / gun owner in Farmington, NM where they killed the homeowner, and shot his wife, even though they were at the wrong address. He came out with his gun ad they shot him dead. Not one of them were charged with the killing. If I recall, many from this forum condemned the victim, and sided with the police on it being a "good shoot".
I would say that 90% of Americans, and likely 99% of politicians, have forgotten what the Constitution really is. The U.S Constitution cannot be "enforced" on American Citizens. It is enforced upon our government. It's the contract or license granting certain specific powers to government. Anything beyond those limits is usurped or stolen powers.
The purpose of government is to protect our rights. Those unalienable rights that were conferred upon us by our Creator, and that preexist any earthly government.
"No legislative act contrary to the Constitution can be valid. To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy (agent) is greater than his principal; that the servant is above the master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people; that men, acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid. It is not to be supposed that the Constitution could intend to enable the representatives of the people to substitute their will to that of their constituents. A Constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by judges as fundamental law. If there should happen to be a irreconcilable variance between the two, the Constitution is to be preferred to the statute." - Quote by: Alexander Hamilton (1757-1804) American statesman, Secretary of the Treasury Source: Federalist Papers #78, See also Warning v. The Mayor of Savannah, 60 Georgia, P.93; First Trust Co. v. Smith, 277 SW 762, Marbury v. Madison, 2 L Ed 60; and Am.Juris. 2d Constitutional Law, section 177-178)
“The error seems not sufficiently eradicated, that the operations of the mind, as well as the acts of the body, are subject to the coercion of the laws. But our rulers can have authority over such natural rights only as we have submitted to them. The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to our God. The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. ... Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now. Thus in France the emetic was once forbidden as a medicine, and the potatoe as an article of food.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
"No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law, and no courts are bound to enforce it." - Quote by: American Jurisprudence, 2nd Edition Source: 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177, late 2d, Sec 256
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." - Quote by: Marbury vs. Madison Source: 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176 (1803)
“On every question of construction [of the Constitution] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or intended against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President to Justice William Johnson, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322
“Emergency does not create power. Emergency does not increase granted power or remove or diminish the restrictions imposed upon power granted or reserved. The Constitution was adopted in a period of grave emergency. Its grants of power to the federal government and its limitations of the power of the States were determined in the light of emergency, and they are not altered by emergency.” ~ Justice Charles Evans Hughes (1862-1948) Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court Home Building & Loan Assn v. Blairsdell, 1934
“The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges’ views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice. I have no fear of constitutional amendments properly adopted, but I do fear the rewriting of the Constitution by judges under the guise of interpretation.” ~ Justice Hugo L. Black (1886-1971) US Supreme Court Justice
“The provision in the Constitution granting the right to all persons to bear arms is a limitation upon the power of the Legislature to enact any law to the contrary. The exercise of a right guaranteed by the Constitution cannot be made subject to the will of the sheriff.” ~ People vs. Zerillo 219 Mich. 635, 189 N.W. 927, at 928 (1922)
“If the legislature clearly misinterprets a constitutional provision, the frequent repetition of the wrong will not create a right.” ~ Amos v. Mosley Amos v. Mosley, 74 Fla. 555; 77 So. 619.
“The very purpose of a Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts. One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections.” ~ Justice Robert H. Jackson (1892-1954), U. S. Supreme Court Justice West Virginia Board of Education vs. Barnette, 1943
I believe every single person who works for the federal government, elected or appointed, into positions of public trust and are bound by oath to honor, obey, uphold, and defend the Constitution, should be subject to capital punishment when they betray that public trust and sacred duty. If their lives were forfeit for choices and actions of betrayal, there would be a lot less traitorous scum in these roles.
This is part of their plan to destroy us from within. Use our own money against us by funding the invaders they brought into our borders. Bankrupt our country while funding the attacks of foreign invaders that were imported by our rogue criminal government.
It started with the multi-billion or trillion $ "Infrastructure" bill the communist and RINO's illegally passed allowing that money to be used against America.
Why do you think they imported all these illegal aliens for? To destroy our Republic from within. This is only one part of their plan. We will likely see more direct actions against the American people when the military aged illegal's (Chinese, Middle Eastern, etc.) start attacking strategic infrastructure targets, and/or attacking Americans in areas deemed safe, similar to what happened in Israel.
She seems to forget the reason government was established to begin with. To protect the preexisting unalienable rights of the individual. Any other act of government not in line with that founding principle is null and void. That is an abuse of the limited powers granted government through the Constitution.
Start by serving a Quo Warranto on him for violating his oath of office and betraying his sworn duty.
His constituents need to start by serving a Quo Warranto on him. They also need to start a recall of him. The sheriff needs to arrest him for violating his oath of office and betraying his sworn duty.
We, The People, need to start getting involved and showing we still are in control.
When seconds count, the police (government) are minutes away.
The national guard is not a militia, neither is the reserve forces. If you look in the mirror, you will see exactly who comprised the militia's in the days of our Founders.
I am a firm believer in the fact that we all have a spiritual, moral, and personal responsibility to protect ourselves, our families, our property, and our communities. Everyone should be armed, and fully trained in the use of the weapons they choose to own and use. Everyone should have emergency plans in place for their households, and should be rehearsing these plans with their families to the point that if something were to happen, everyone knows their role, and what they are supposed to do.
Taken to the next level, if you have good neighbors, is a neighborhood plan for if something were to happen. The recent events in Israel should make it very plain why this would be a wise course of action.
Our suburbs and neighborhoods are all but defenseless against these type of attacks by organized illegal invaders, unless you and your neighbors do something to change that.
We need to relearn what it is to be neighbors, and build communities of people who care about each other. Who have each others backs.
When seconds count, government (including police) are minutes away.
I believe that we should form local community militias and form regional militia networks in each state. These militias would train together on a regular basis. They would support each other to protect their communities and citizens from government tyranny, invasions, etc.
We can restore our Republic, but we need to depend on the people we see in the mirror, and not those we see on C-Span to make it happen. We have the right, and the Declaration of Independence tells us how.
I agree, Social Security is another program that needs to go. I would like to see it phased out by having a cut-off age to finish out, and anyone younger getting what they put in refunded so they can invest it as they want for their own retirement, or not.
Eliminate all forms of government welfare, period. The Constitution never authorized this power to government, so it is unconstitutional, and must be stopped.
Welfare is not the federal governments job. Charity is a private thing, and people would be more apt to give if they weren't being robbed blind by the government.
This is a great example and reminder that welfare is unconstitutional: https://thepoliticalinsider.com/200-years-ago-davy-crockett-perfectly-explained-the-limits-on-government-spending-not-yours-to-give/
The 2nd Amendment is a prohibition on government infringement. That law regarding sawed off shotguns is a violation of that prohibition, and an infringement of our preexisting right, as conferred upon us by our Creator. That makes that law null and void. If you do not understand that, then you do not understand liberty and the purpose of our federal government.
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." - Quote by: Marbury vs. Madison Source: 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176 (1803)
“The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts as are only injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
"No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law, and no courts are bound to enforce it." - Quote by: American Jurisprudence, 2nd Edition Source: 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177, late 2d, Sec 256
The States are no more required to follow unconstitutional laws than individuals are.
"No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law, and no courts are bound to enforce it." - Quote by: American Jurisprudence, 2nd Edition Source: 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177, late 2d, Sec 256
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." - Quote by: Marbury vs. Madison Source: 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176 (1803)
“On every question of construction [of the Constitution] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or intended against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President to Justice William Johnson, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322
"No legislative act contrary to the Constitution can be valid. To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy (agent) is greater than his principal; that the servant is above the master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people; that men, acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid. It is not to be supposed that the Constitution could intend to enable the representatives of the people to substitute their will to that of their constituents. A Constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by judges as fundamental law. If there should happen to be a irreconcilable variance between the two, the Constitution is to be preferred to the statute." - Quote by: Alexander Hamilton (1757-1804) American statesman, Secretary of the Treasury Source: Federalist Papers #78, See also Warning v. The Mayor of Savannah, 60 Georgia, P.93; First Trust Co. v. Smith, 277 SW 762, Marbury v. Madison, 2 L Ed 60; and Am.Juris. 2d Constitutional Law, section 177-178)
"Any single man must judge for himself whether circumstances warrant obedience or resistance to the commands of the civil magistrate; we are all qualified, entitled, and morally obliged to evaluate the conduct of our rulers. This political judgment, moreover, is not simply or primarily a right, but like self-preservation, a duty to God. As such it is a judgment that men cannot part with according to the God of Nature. It is the first and foremost of our inalienable rights without which we can preserve no other." - Quote by: John Locke (1632-1704) English philosopher and political theorist. Considered the ideological progenitor of the American Revolution and who, by far, was the most often non-biblical writer quoted by the Founding Fathers of the USA.
“The error seems not sufficiently eradicated, that the operations of the mind, as well as the acts of the body, are subject to the coercion of the laws. But our rulers can have authority over such natural rights only as we have submitted to them. The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to our God. The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. ... Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now. Thus in France the emetic was once forbidden as a medicine, and the potatoe as an article of food.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
There should be no plea deals. Make this crime a capital offense and let the chips fall where they fall.
The question we should all be asking is by what legitimate authority is government dispersing our tax dollars to illegal immigrants, other countries, etc?
The answer is, none. Therefore, we should have cause to go after those "representatives" that are ignoring the constitution, and stealing our money.
They should just decriminalize all drugs. There are already laws covering the consequences of actions that cause injury or death to others, or damage the property of others.
Decriminalization is liberty. Why have limits on possession? It doesn't hurt me if someone has 3 ounces or even 3 tons. My point is, you either have true liberty, or you don't.
By what legitimate authority were they targeting Randy Weaver to begin with?
How many laws are repugnant to the Constitution? A lot of them. Unfair trials are caused by judges who forget the Constitution, and substitute their own beliefs or will, rather than putting the rights of the accused first.
I have attended many trials that were unfair to some degree. But some were so unfair that in the days of our founders, the judge and prosecutor would have been hung from the gallows.
No Branch of our Federal Government has any legitimate power to grant any person or entity full immunity for any act that violates the individual natural rights of Americans. To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy (agent) is greater than his principal; that the servant is above the master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people; that men, acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid. It is not to be supposed that the Constitution could intend to enable the representatives of the people to substitute their will to that of their constituents. A Constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by judges as fundamental law. If there should happen to be a irreconcilable variance between the two, the Constitution is to be preferred to the statute.
"Any single man must judge for himself whether circumstances warrant obedience or resistance to the commands of the civil magistrate; we are all qualified, entitled, and morally obliged to evaluate the conduct of our rulers. This political judgment, moreover, is not simply or primarily a right, but like self-preservation, a duty to God. As such it is a judgment that men cannot part with according to the God of Nature. It is the first and foremost of our inalienable rights without which we can preserve no other." - Quote by: John Locke (1632-1704) English philosopher and political theorist. Considered the ideological progenitor of the American Revolution and who, by far, was the most often non-biblical writer quoted by the Founding Fathers of the USA.
"No legislative act contrary to the Constitution can be valid. To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy (agent) is greater than his principal; that the servant is above the master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people; that men, acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid. It is not to be supposed that the Constitution could intend to enable the representatives of the people to substitute their will to that of their constituents. A Constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by judges as fundamental law. If there should happen to be a irreconcilable variance between the two, the Constitution is to be preferred to the statute." - Quote by: Alexander Hamilton (1757-1804) American statesman, Secretary of the Treasury Source: Federalist Papers #78, See also Warning v. The Mayor of Savannah, 60 Georgia, P.93; First Trust Co. v. Smith, 277 SW 762, Marbury v. Madison, 2 L Ed 60; and Am.Juris. 2d Constitutional Law, section 177-178)
“Our legislators are not sufficiently apprized of the rightful limits of their power; that their true office is to declare and enforce only our natural rights and duties, and to take none of them from us. No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another; and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him; every man is under the natural duty of contributing to the necessities of the society; and this is all the laws should enforce on him; and, no man having a natural right to be the judge between himself and another, it is his natural duty to submit to the umpirage of an impartial third. When the laws have declared and enforced all this, they have fulfilled their functions, and the idea is quite unfounded, that on entering into society we give up any natural right.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President Letter to Francis W. Gilmer (27 June 1816); The Writings of Thomas Jefferson edited by Ford, vol. 10, p. 32.
“But, sir, the people themselves have it in their power effectually to resist usurpation, without being driven to an appeal of arms. An act of usurpation is not obligatory; it is not law; and any man may be justified in his resistance. Let him be considered as a criminal by the general government, yet only his fellow-citizens can convict him; they are his jury, and if they pronounce him innocent, not all the powers of Congress can hurt him; and innocent they certainly will pronounce him, if the supposed law he resisted was an act of usurpation.” ~ Theophilus Parsons (1750-1813) in the Massachusetts Convention on the ratification of the Constitution, January 23, 1788, in Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution, Jonathan Elliot, ed., v.2 p.94 (Philadelphia, 1836)
“On every question of construction [of the Constitution] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or intended against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President to Justice William Johnson, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p. 322
“The constitutions of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property and freedom of the press.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
“The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts as are only injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
“The error seems not sufficiently eradicated, that the operations of the mind, as well as the acts of the body, are subject to the coercion of the laws. But our rulers can have authority over such natural rights only as we have submitted to them. The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to our God. The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. ... Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now. Thus in France the emetic was once forbidden as a medicine, and the potatoe as an article of food.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
"No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law, and no courts are bound to enforce it." - Quote by: American Jurisprudence, 2nd Edition Source: 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177, late 2d, Sec 256
"All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." - Quote by: Marbury vs. Madison Source: 5 US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176 (1803)
“If every person has the right to defend -- even by force -- his person, his liberty, and his property, then it follows that a group of men have the right to organize and support a common force to protect these rights constantly. Thus the principle of collective right -- its reason for existing, its lawfulness -- is based on individual right. And the common force that protects this collective right cannot logically have any other purpose or any other mission than that for which it acts as a substitute. Thus, since an individual cannot lawfully use force against the person, liberty, or property of another individual, then the common force -- for the same reason -- cannot lawfully be used to destroy the person, liberty, or property of individuals or groups.” ~ Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) [Claude Frederic Bastiat] French economist, statesman, and author. He did most of his writing during the years just before -- and immediately following -- the French Revolution of February 1848 "The Law" by Frederic Bastiat (1848)
Had government not gotten rid of any militia's, I am sure Texas would have called upon them.
What you fail to mention is that the Colonists had already tried to use every single avenue to redress their grievances and were ignored on every single one by the Kings men.
By the time of the Boston Tea Party, the abuses of the colonists by the British were beyond excessive, and spurred the actions taken by the rebels that day.
Ted Kaczynski is not really an example of someone using their right to self-defense against government. Randy Weaver is, though. The Branch Davidians would be another good example. There are too many others to list, but they are out there.
I watched a close relative get railroaded in Federal Court for challenging the IRS. I watched him forced to be tried without an attorney, the judge manipulating the jury, preventing him from entering any evidence in his defense, and creating the most unfair trial I have ever witnessed, until the current ones President Trump has been a victim of. So I know first hand that the courts have no justice for anyone that stands up to tyranny.
Our Rights are conferred upon us by our Creator, and are unalienable. All the Bill of Rights does is call out a few specific rights to remind those in government service they are forbidden to infringe upon them. Although only a few of our rights are specifically mentioned, the fact is government is forbidden to infringe on any of our preexisting rights.
The 2nd Amendment is not for us, it is meant as a reminder for government that they are forbidden to infringe upon the right to bear arms in any way, shape, or form. Our right to self-defense applies to all threats to our lives, property, happiness, rights, liberty, etc., from all who pose a threat, including tyrannical government.
So, yes, the right to self-defense is the way to protect all of our rights and property from rogue government actions.
Today, people have been conditioned to quote the 2nd amendment, but never actually enforce it upon out of control government. Those who have, historically, have been vilified by the media and government, and most Americans blindly call those who exercise their right to defend against government tyranny whackos, crazy, and support government in imprisoning these people, or killing them.
So government has effectively infringed on our rights on a regular basis for decades because of that. They put the fear of government into the people, instead of the fear of people into the government.
They never should have been given money, food stamps, housing and phones (or any other "welfare") by our government to begin with. So not only to the illegal migrants need to be deported, but those in government that provided our tax dollars to them illegally need to be prosecuted and imprisoned, or face capital punishment.