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45willwinagain 0 points ago +1 / -1

statements like that make me think you don't understand mass and inertia.

do you have any idea how heavy the upper half of one of the largest buildings on the planet is?

do you not understand that once it starts falling the decapitated lower half of a spancrete floored building isn't going to "catch" that much force.

that much mass, in motion, isn't going to stop falling until it hits the ground.

there isn't a single building on the planet who's lower half can catch it's upper half as it's falling through the damaged area that divides the two.

if you jumped out of a plane, and hit a fly on the way down... how much would it slow you down?

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45willwinagain 2 points ago +2 / -0

two of the largest buildings in the world just blasted themselves into the ground right next door, ripping a big chunk out of 7, (img search wtc 7 damage).

there were multiple fuel tanks for backup power generation... i think like 4 or 5 different tanks of diesel around the lower floors.

the fires spread and the firefighters couldn't do shit about it (sadly by then a lot of them were either dead or very injured injured)... all the trucks that got to the scene to fight the tower fires were obliterated in the collapse of the two towers.

7 burned for a while before it dropped.

the building was showing signs of an impending collapse and the fire guys in charge ordered everyone the fuck out... they weren't trying to lose more firefighters than they already had.

it was a shitty situation but once the fires got out of control, combined with the damage, there was nothing they could have done.

it was doomed.

all they could do was try to get everyone the fuck away from that building before it came down.

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45willwinagain 4 points ago +6 / -2

show me pictures of this "pool of molten steel"

better yet...

show me the solidified puddle of steel that was craned out of the bottom of that bathtub.

...in case you weren't aware, the towers were built in a "bathtub" to keep the adjacent river out. the molten steel would have pooled at the lowest point in the tub.

when the towers collapsed the entire tub was crammed full of twisted beams, mangled rebar, wires, pipes, etc... etc...

it was smashed down into that hole in the ground so hard it took them months to dig it all out.

how did "eye witnesses" see a molten pool of metal at the bottom of that massive debris pile?

a USGS sat img isn't going to show you molten metal, it will simply show you heat.

there was heat.

show me the metal

show me the massive solidified puddle

there would have been thousands of pictures taken as they craned that out of the hole... there are zero

there was no liquid steel, never happened, prove me wrong. show me. don't show me korey and dylans little film school project claiming there were eye witnesses... show me the molten metal, show me the solidified puddle.

i'll wait.

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45willwinagain 2 points ago +2 / -0

it's the same formula as the towers.

massive damage + fires cooking remaining supports = eventually the damaged area can no longer hold up the weight of the building above.

in the towers it was the damaged middle of the building trying to hold up the top... when it failed the top smashed through the bottom.

when 7 failed it just smashed into the ground.

we're talking millions of tons.

once it starts moving it's not going to stop till it settles on the ground.

it's like hitting a fly in the air when you are skydiving... it doesn't slow you down because your mass + inertia far far far outweigh the forces the fly puts on you on impact.

once the supports in a building fail, it's fucking over with.

damage + fires caused failure in all three cases.

not as sexy as invisible ninjas planting explosives undetected... but it's reality.

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45willwinagain 0 points ago +1 / -1

lol, excuse me? how exactly do "physics and gravity don't support your views"

gonna need some receipts bro.

here's the damage to 7 https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IGZLkbR7jWs/RhFoa84wgRI/AAAAAAAAAFs/m_BhJvzFi2w/s400/combo-small.jpg

also... when you exceed the carrying capacity for a system, the system fails.

the supports were designed to function as a whole system, the damage created a system in distress... point loading on areas of the structure they weren't designed to handle... not just vertical load... but now torsion and pulling and shear loads...

then you set it on fire and cook the metal... which is under more stress than it's designed to carry.

wtf did you think was going to happen?

you can't remove a big chunk of the buildings foundation, set it on fire, then expect it to continue holding the same load.

if you take a wheel off your car it's going to lean... cars weigh a ton or so... skyscrapers weigh millions of tons.

guess which one has more mass and thus more force being exerted?

do you honestly think buildings were designed to have a bunch of load bearing supports removed and still function as intended? after they cook in a fire?

but it's fine man, you can believe dumb retarded shit all you want, it's what makes this country so great.

keep reaching for those rainbows hashtagfag.

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45willwinagain 0 points ago +1 / -1

the "designed to withstand a plane impact" claims are constantly fucked up so a little clarity:

in 1945 a B-52, lost in fog, low on fuel, looking for the airport, smashed into the side of the empire state building.

got stuck in the building it was actually pretty cool.

when the trade center towers were built they were designed to withstand a similar impact... nothing intentional... an accident...

from a much smaller plane, flying at much slower speeds, low on fuel (not just taking off from the east coast, headed west, with both wings fully loaded.

when you intentionally smash a fully loaded, fully fueled plane into the side of the building at full speed, it's going to do WAY more damage than was designed for.

the crucial damage was structural, the building is designed to carry all that weight evenly distributed... like the guy laying down on the bed of nails doesn't get stuck because the force is evenly distributed.

it's why you are supposed to crawl on all 4's on thin ice.

because when you remove a bunch of the supporting structure... all the remaining supports are now being expected to carry far more stress than they were designed to carry.

not only that, but different stresses.

the design calls for vertical loading, not torsion and pull and shear.... all these supports were now being asked to do far more than they were designed to in ways they weren't designed to... but thats why we try to over-engineer things. for a just in case.

sadly when you add sustained fire to this equation you now have the already over-stressed structural components loosing the lions share of their strength... and under tremendous stress.

eventually the damaged area of the building can no longer support the insane weight of the building above.

again... we are talking millions of tons here... thats a LOT of force.

ever see a steel cable snap? that will slice a person in half, and thats a few thousand pounds... now do millions of tons.

when the building starts to go i't's fucking over. as soon as it starts moving, there isn't a building on earth designed to not rip itself apart in that scenario.

and here's how you know everything i just said is correct...

the first building to fall, got hit second, but it got hit much lower on the tower and the damage was worse because it came in at a goofy angle and compromised more floors worth of supports.

that second building's damaged section is now being asked to hold much more weight than the building that got hit first.

more severely damaged area being asked to hold a lot more weight = more force on the compromised structure = more point loading stresses on the remaining system = it failed much sooner than it's counterpart.

also nobody ever said the steel melted, not one serious person ever said that because it didn't happen.

why are you here to defend a debunked mcguffin/red herring/forum slide/well poisoning?

people like you are the reason i can't ask why the government lied about shooting down the 4th plane... because everyone thinks i'm stupid enough to believe a massive crew of people were able to sneak into some of the worlds largest buildings and do months and months worth of demo prep work overnight without detection.

you are why we don't get taken seriously.

stop that.

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45willwinagain 0 points ago +1 / -1

wait... to be clear... i don't have evidence of what?

that physics and gravity and inertia are things or that the demo prep crew were all wearing cloaks of invisibility for months.

lol

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45willwinagain 0 points ago +1 / -1

yeah i mean it's not like two of the worlds tallest buildings collapsed right next to it, gouging out a giant chunk of the buildings lower floors... and setting the building on fire. cause that would be crazy if that happened.

but since that never happened it was clearly a controlled demo that took months to setup, cutting holes in walls to access the critical structure, preforming weakening cuts, placing cutting charges, wiring all the charges, running those wires back to a central location, hooking those trunk lines up to a blasting box, then initiating the demo.

all while remaining completely undetected.

these guys are fucking pro's, don't fuck with them, probably all had cloaks of invisibility to remain unseen by the thousands of people working there each day.

i mean it would take dozens of guys a few months to rig a building that size for demo... without them someone surely would have seen the workers, this must be where all our tax dollars went... fucking cloaks of invisibility...

gotta be it.

sneaky bastards.

some next level area 51 shit amirite?

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45willwinagain 0 points ago +1 / -1

yes because commercial buildings are designed to be cut in half, then the lower portion designed to "catch" the falling upper portion.

thats how all buildings are made... to be able to stop millions of tons of building as it falls.

"Water, fire, air and dirt, Fucking inertia, how do they work"

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45willwinagain -9 points ago +10 / -19

fuck dude you're right, i completely forgot about the part where gravity and point loading stopped being a thing during fires.

cause millions of tons of skyscraper become weightless like a balloon when you set it on fire.

everyone knows heat rises... duh.

damn dude thanks for setting me straight.

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45willwinagain 12 points ago +12 / -0

it may not be that easy. look at the waterline on the ships side... the painted red portion is elevated far up out of the water on the bow side. there is a lot of ship resting on/into that bank...

couple that with the "stucktion" of being wedged in there like that... like when you step in deep mud and it'll pull your boot right off your foot.

this is even more of a problem because it's abrasive sand.

they are going to have to vibrate the ship and the sand to hydrolyze the sand and water into an emulsion to break those forces.

like when you see guys pouring cement walls inside forms... they have those vibrating tools on the end of a hose they can submerge down into the wet concrete to get everything in a liquid state to allow trapped air to work it's way to the surface.

i mean i don't have a fucking clue on the specific situation or factors, i'm not there, all i have to go by is how far out of the water that bow is and a rough understanding of how heavy that ship is.

it's one of the largest of it's kind ever built... it's completely maxed out to the size of the worlds shipping canals.

we are talking a lot of weight here, even without the loaded containers.

they will likely have to resort to using a boom dredge to suck all the sand away from the bow as the ship presses down on the bank... they will have to "undermine" it (dangerous job)... and who knows how far back that thing is high centered... whoever did this set it to "ramming speed" before he veered into the bank... it's wedged in there real fuckin good.

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45willwinagain 1 point ago +2 / -1

You forgot little Suzy Johnsons puppy dying in Bangor Maine, and the car crash in Phoenix right as the first building was hit.

Clearly related.

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45willwinagain 2 points ago +15 / -13

yes, because steel retains 100% of it's structural integrity/rigidity right up until just before the melting temp.

everyone knows that.

stays just as strong as it is at room temp, until 1 degree from the melting point... then you've got real problems on your hands.

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45willwinagain 5 points ago +5 / -0

Did you watch the last season of westworld?

All those "city of the future" scenes were shot in Singapore.

place looks beautiful right? very clean, interesting buildings

Now take a deep dive into how that society is ran, their rules and laws and how their entire system works.

some crazy shit going on there...

selling gum is illegal. no, not guns, GUM... as in chewing gum.

it's illegal to not flush the toilet.

you will be arrested if you enter the country with cigarettes.

connecting to a non-sanctioned "unsecure" wi-fi is considered "hacking".

fireworks are illegal, doesn't matter when or what for, the only people permitted to have or shoot fireworks are state licensed pyrotechnicians.

if you vouch for someone and that person ends up being a piece of shit... it's against the law.

you aren't even allowed to walk around naked in your own home.

now, this is just ordinary shit, shit we do all the time and would be scratching our heads as to why we no longer couldn't.

however take a look into what they do to you if you get caught.

for example... singing in public earns you 3 months in jail.

connecting to someone's laptop or wifi earns you 3 years in prison or 10k in fines

if you get caught selling chewing gum to someone, 2 years in jail or $100,000 fine.

spitting in public will cost you a grand.

a joint and a handgun can get you the death penalty

it's a fucking dystopian nightmare,

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45willwinagain 8 points ago +9 / -1

fuck that... don't half ass it.

stockpile ammo, food, and water as a start

and if you can swing it...

  • buy land in the north mid-section of the country
  • buy used RV
  • build pole barn for RV
  • install septic
  • either harvest rainwater, or drill a well, or both
  • invest in a solar array and a battery bank, at least enough to keep your fridge on
  • plant a huge garden and buy the canning supplies for when it's ready to harvest
  • chickens, rabbits, goats
  • buy tools you might need (welder, even a bullshit stick welder, comes in very handy for example)

live in that RV until you can finish out a portion of the barn into a tiny house and sell the RV.

live in that tiny house until you can build a super insulated passive heating/cooling house next door and convert the tiny house into an office.

live in that until you can sell it, turn a profit, and build a bigger version.

everyone needs to quit fucking around with these major cities thinking it will get better...

it's not going to get better.

it's going to get exponentially worse.

build your salvation.

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45willwinagain 2 points ago +3 / -1

look i hate to burst any bubbles here... but stopping shit like this before it gets started is important if we want people to take us seriously.

a man wearing black gloves was handling a medical swab.

black fibers are now on the swab.

you can clearly see the helical pattern of the black fibers just like manufactured thread you would find in the gloves he's wearing.

the only thing that makes this video freaky is that most people have never seen a bristle swab under magnification, we are all familiar with smooth cotton swabs, not micro bristle brushes.

WE NEED TO BE OUR OWN HARSHEST CRITICS

That said, there is nothing stopping them from infecting the bristle swabs with something prior to sealing the packaging.

nobody is sticking anything up my nose (or anywhere else) without at least letting it cook under a UV-C light for a while. rotisserie that fucker with germicidal rays for at least 5 minutes... and even then it'll have to be a gun to my head.

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45willwinagain 1 point ago +1 / -0

And the best part about America is you're still allowed to think that if you want.

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