Later news today: “a mysterious explosion completely obliterated the Ever Given. A peice of paper found on the scene that was miraculously spared suggests it was a terrorist named Que Inon”
Pretty sure this is sarcastic, but we do know that jet fuel doesn’t melt steel beams and even if it did, the entire building wouldn’t collapse in on itself. “Pancaking” is the same science as masks working.
Steel doesn’t retain its strength all the way up until melting, but steel reinforced concrete isn’t just steel.
Controlled demolition and a hefty insurance policy! Oodles of $$$$$ + a mass ritual blood sacrifice + emotionally traumatizing a population of people, how could ((they)) resist?
At some point the failing top floors of WTC1/2 would've faced resistance from the in-tact structure beneath it. Nope. Freefall. Totally defies the laws of physics.
Haha I understand it is weakened, but the building wasn’t designed to only hold the weight of the floor above it. In fact, it was engineered to be able to withstand impact from an airplane when it was built.
Look at every other building that suffers a fire vs a controlled demolition. Some of them, half the building falls off and the other part is standing when the fire is extremely bad. Their conclusion was that because the jet fuel went down the elevator shaft that it was able to completely melt all the steel reinforcements.
Why are you on here to “debunk” a very proven conspiracy?
What all you "the planes didn't really bring down the towers" crowd needs to explain is not the physics, but that if some entity has the means and the will to bring the towers down, and knew that crashing jets into them would not be enough of a statement, why wait until most, but not all, people had evacuated? If you are ruthless and want a maximum statement with max casualties, then you would set off your destructive sequence as soon as the planes hit, or soon after. If you are more humane and you just wanted to cause massive damage and disrupt trade and economic activity, but with as few collateral casualties as possible, you would have waited longer until the buildings had been cleared. The timing doesn't make sense.
What all you "the planes didn't really bring down the towers" crowd needs to explain is not the physics
Actually, this is the most important thing that needs to be explained. If the physics don't work (and are not even remotely close), nothing else about a theory of investigation matters.
You are suggesting understanding motivations and being able to read minds is more important than physics. Such thinking is detrimental to investigation. First you determine whether or not a theory is possible (like a little bit of plane fuel melting an entire buildings worth of steel and concrete LOL) then you can try to fit in the motivations.
It was never about the deaths, it was about the money. You could hear and see when they actually came down way after the planes, there were explosions all the way down.
I don’t know exactly why they waited, but it isn’t right to judge intent without knowing as that can be circumstantial, it’s right to judge the physics and the money that was tied to it.
We do know for certain that more than just a few random people knew about it. Following the money shows that it was well coordinated as far as the money is concerned.
Rebar has very little influence on the structural integrity of a skyscraper; almost all the load bearing is done by a steel framework. And if they simply bend out of their triangular setup, you are fucked and an entire floor will just instantly get crunched.
That was never the issue, the issue was there were eyewitness accounts of "molten, running steel" that persisted for days and, IIRC was corroborated by the USGS satellite thermal imaging data up to a week later via colour matching of incandescent materials.
People mocking people saying "Jet fuel cannot melt steel beams" believe they intended to say "Jet fuel cannot weaken steel beams". It was one of the most finessed red herrings ever. No. The people saying jet fuel cannot melt steel beams are saying jet fuel cannot MELT steel beams. Molten, pooled. flowing "like lava or a foundry" steel. Not that fact it gets soft when heated.
show me the solidified puddle of steel that was craned out of the bottom of that bathtub.
...in case you weren't aware, the towers were built in a "bathtub" to keep the adjacent river out. the molten steel would have pooled at the lowest point in the tub.
when the towers collapsed the entire tub was crammed full of twisted beams, mangled rebar, wires, pipes, etc... etc...
it was smashed down into that hole in the ground so hard it took them months to dig it all out.
how did "eye witnesses" see a molten pool of metal at the bottom of that massive debris pile?
a USGS sat img isn't going to show you molten metal, it will simply show you heat.
there was heat.
show me the metal
show me the massive solidified puddle
there would have been thousands of pictures taken as they craned that out of the hole... there are zero
there was no liquid steel, never happened, prove me wrong. show me. don't show me korey and dylans little film school project claiming there were eye witnesses... show me the molten metal, show me the solidified puddle.
Remember kids, the chair and vice chair of the 911 commission report resigned, citing agencies et al were being - in their view, borderline criminally obfuscating and deceptive when questioned.
Later we find out that the captain had previously failed to even navigate a small bass boat months earlier at boat school but expertly navigated this massive boat through half the canal first.
Since when does a president get involved in this type of operation? This makes it appear as though there was resistance to the idea of unloading the ship and had to be ordered. It's odd to say the least. It's what one would expect if Evergreen was worried about something being discovered.
Yes I thought this too! Like if it’s the only solution and simpler efforts weren’t working then those in charge of the canal would just do that. Surely they have Business Continuity and Disaster Recovery plans to follow that are already written, so why need a president to order it???
I saw a short news clip on the situation, wish I’d grabbed it. I laughed when they said they were worried about unloading it because the ship could tip over if unloaded wrong. I thought it was a funny idea at the time. Sounded more like an excuse not to unload to me. I think you may be onto something.
I thought about that too. They loaded it fine. But I did see how they load it and they strap the boat into the dock crazy hard core, so maybe there is a little merit to their concerns. I can also see it as a way out. If they really panic they might to the boat on purpose?
I read something like that but I thought they were talking about removing ballast so it would rise up some. Not sure how they'd get the containers off unless there was a ship that could get there with the proper cranes. Removing ballast might cause the ship to become unbalanced.
I have a neighbor who’s Egyptian and she says the night life in Cairo is off the hook right now - no masks - no lockdown - they’re laughing at us clowns of clown world
This whole suez canal situation has been great for the beginning of red pilling. My mom who has been a democratic her entire life called me to ask about it and the association with Hillary Clinton. I don't watch the news so I had no idea it was in the news and apparently she watches bill maher and he was talking about it. So naturally I started red pilling her slowly. She wants to know about Q, so here I go!
Some 40' containers can easily hold more weight than 25k pounds. Legal road weight is in the 35-40k range, I believe. Been a few years since I worked in transportation.
Just a dumb observation ... if they remove containers it changes the buoyancy... ship raises up out of mud... floats away.
It’s not like they are gonna open the containers just move to smaller ships to get it in stuck... I said to do that day one but I’m no engineer, just have common sense
That's what the article says. That if they removed the tremendous weight of the containers it will get it up enough to float. I just wonder why it took so long to come to this conclusion. As you said, you said it on day 1. Surely some of them "experts" thought about it.
It’s much like the story of the truck stuck under the over pass... the police, fire department and engineers all stood around proposing different ideas... cut the bridge, being welders or high power jacks.... a little bit walks up and say why not just let the air of the tires and drive it out....
Experts usually miss the obvious but over complicating things... in my opinion...
But to the ‘Hope’ of this post... I also hope they unload and discover SOMETHING to start this thing off ... I been holding onto these fireworks for too long now
The troops, workers, low guys on the totem pole usually have the best ideas to solve problems. Then you introduce someone in charge: Officer, chief, whoever...then things get all fucked up. I see this time and time again in the fire dept
As you move up the chain, some people are changed. Wether they make choices by fear, political reasons, or simply because they are great at taking a test and retaining book smarts but can't apply 'knowledge' to real life scenarios....decision making gets skewed.
it may not be that easy. look at the waterline on the ships side... the painted red portion is elevated far up out of the water on the bow side. there is a lot of ship resting on/into that bank...
couple that with the "stucktion" of being wedged in there like that... like when you step in deep mud and it'll pull your boot right off your foot.
this is even more of a problem because it's abrasive sand.
they are going to have to vibrate the ship and the sand to hydrolyze the sand and water into an emulsion to break those forces.
like when you see guys pouring cement walls inside forms... they have those vibrating tools on the end of a hose they can submerge down into the wet concrete to get everything in a liquid state to allow trapped air to work it's way to the surface.
i mean i don't have a fucking clue on the specific situation or factors, i'm not there, all i have to go by is how far out of the water that bow is and a rough understanding of how heavy that ship is.
it's one of the largest of it's kind ever built... it's completely maxed out to the size of the worlds shipping canals.
we are talking a lot of weight here, even without the loaded containers.
they will likely have to resort to using a boom dredge to suck all the sand away from the bow as the ship presses down on the bank... they will have to "undermine" it (dangerous job)... and who knows how far back that thing is high centered... whoever did this set it to "ramming speed" before he veered into the bank... it's wedged in there real fuckin good.
Look on the side of any ship to see what are called "Draft Marks," which indicate at a glance how much ship is below the waterline. Buoyancy changes cause change in the waterline; removal of weight/containers does lighten the ship "Lightering," but how to position cranes to lift those ceu's?
I did not know this... I’m no merchant marine but any sort... I would just assume taking weight would raise the vessel... but apparent I am incorrect. Thanks for the info
Much easier said than done. There's a reason shipping containers only go to specialized ports with the right crane systems to remove the containers. Even in a dock with these cranes it still takes days to remove all of the containers.
Now, just imagine how hard this is going to be without those cranes, on a ship that's not even docked... in the middle of nowhere! How are they going to move hundreds of trucks in the middle of the desert? Even if they park another ship next to it for all of this its still hard to do. This can't be done quietly. Something big may happen .
Actually, it's very easy. They already have everything they need to get it done. Simply yank the above-decks containers into the water with a cable and tug, dozens at a time. Containers are insured. They are lost at sea all the time. If you don't want to clean that up, tell people it's all free.
Considering who or what might be in those containers, that could be tantamount to murder.
Also, not a good idea to dump cargo containers by the dozen into the world's busiest canal. You'll end up making the situation worse. You'll need divers and helicopters to cart that shit out of there, as it would likely tear up the bottom of other passing cargo ships. The canal is deep, but I don't think its that deep.
If the boat symmetrically levitated to 33 feet above the canal and then rocketed into space at escape velocity and then sublimated into snow, NIST would release computer models telling us that this was totally caused by wind gust and global warming.
This is the (most likely planned) opportunity to red pill the world about trafficking and possible nukes being smuggled around the world. MSM is definitely covering the Suez being blocked - now those same MSM viewers might see what nefarious stuff is being shipped under everyone's noses.
I pray everyday for a miracle. I ask the lord to protect any poor souls stuck in containers that they have a miracle their food and supplies will last the duration of this operation. May their food and water double in days. May their oxygen double as well. Amen.
A MSM-owned local radio station in my area was going on about how world commerce lost $400,000,000 per day while shipping was blocked. I'm sure they were off by a few zeroes, but they had a whole thing going 'why don't they just blow it up, get it out of the way so ships can get through? It's already lost money for that ship anyway..'
This was the acceleration of the MSM fall from grace. I remember back when this happened - it was like a switch was flipped. The news started sounding like 'mean girls' and 'view' combined.
"Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 - Amends the United States Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948 to authorize the Secretary of State and the Broadcasting Board of Governors to provide for the preparation and dissemination of information intended for foreign audiences abroad about the United States, including about its people, its history, and the federal government's policies, through press, publications, radio, motion pictures, the Internet, and other information media, including social media, and through information centers and instructors. (Under current law such authority is restricted to information disseminated abroad, with a limited domestic exception.)"
Modified means changed. Face it the gov’t never does anything to benefit the people. The gov’t can disseminate propaganda (lies) to the American people using the many forms of media. Can you say, 4 a.m. talking points?
I was just telling someone yesterday that if that ship is as important as many think it is, they will bomb it to get rid of as much evidence as they can...
The American and Russian militaries currently control the waters on either side of the Suez Canal.
The Black Hats could potentially detonate pre-installed explosives on their cargo ships, if they had the foresight to install such failsafe devices. Even then, between the American and Russian space forces, any remote signals being broadcast could easily be scrambled. Perhaps that is why this is dragging on so long.
This could be a very delicate situation depending upon what is on those cargo ships.
Hopefully they hear sounds/banging and it grows from there. Only have to hear it once. And it won't be on top or sides, you know those contains will be buried.
Then it just explodes from there... find one, you start investigating it all. And then everything starts unraveling from there.
A few considerations: any human cargo would be shipped with food and a means to keep it alive to its destination which is presumably several days away (Rotterdam?). That same human cargo can go several days without food as well and would likely be shipped with an ample supply of water. They're probably still alivd but approaching the end of their clock.
If people start to die in those containers they will stink. A lot. Those containers cannot be air tight or the human cargo would suffocate.
We have methods of detecting trace elements and substances that tip off when bad materials, goods, or other things are inside of containers. For instance, detecting radiation for nukes, detecting lactic acid (stress sweat) for people, etc.
They weren't set to arrive at their destination for quite awhile. If they are pulled out now it would actually be sooner than had they completed their trip I believe.
It’s an impossible task. Those container ships are enormous. Imagine a sky scraper laying on its side huge. and it is 20 stories to the top container. each one of those containers requires a semi truck to move them over land. the will have to build a crane around the boat to unload it. they could not maneuver another ship next to it to unload the cargo. if the propeller is damaged, that things is going no where. the part that is grounded was not designed to withstand that type of pressure. if there is hull damage as a result, that beast will not he sea worthy.
he can order all he wants, but they FOOKED for a long time.
Later news today: “a mysterious explosion completely obliterated the Ever Given. A peice of paper found on the scene that was miraculously spared suggests it was a terrorist named Que Inon”
All 7 buildings were destroyed.
3 nearby ships were completely destroyed due to embers that drifted out of the canal.
Yes, science says steel ships can be melted by fires which rage at half the melting point of such steel.
office fires
yes, because steel retains 100% of it's structural integrity/rigidity right up until just before the melting temp.
everyone knows that.
stays just as strong as it is at room temp, until 1 degree from the melting point... then you've got real problems on your hands.
Pretty sure this is sarcastic, but we do know that jet fuel doesn’t melt steel beams and even if it did, the entire building wouldn’t collapse in on itself. “Pancaking” is the same science as masks working.
Steel doesn’t retain its strength all the way up until melting, but steel reinforced concrete isn’t just steel.
Controlled demolition and a hefty insurance policy! Oodles of $$$$$ + a mass ritual blood sacrifice + emotionally traumatizing a population of people, how could ((they)) resist?
fuck dude you're right, i completely forgot about the part where gravity and point loading stopped being a thing during fires.
cause millions of tons of skyscraper become weightless like a balloon when you set it on fire.
everyone knows heat rises... duh.
damn dude thanks for setting me straight.
Derp yeah! It was also hot that build 7 fell wi th out even a fire! These people just dont u understand science like you!!!... derp...
At some point the failing top floors of WTC1/2 would've faced resistance from the in-tact structure beneath it. Nope. Freefall. Totally defies the laws of physics.
LEARN: https://www.ae911truth.org/
OK I'm intrigued. What would be your explanation for Bldg 7, 45willwinagain?
(upvoted for username)
Haha I understand it is weakened, but the building wasn’t designed to only hold the weight of the floor above it. In fact, it was engineered to be able to withstand impact from an airplane when it was built.
Look at every other building that suffers a fire vs a controlled demolition. Some of them, half the building falls off and the other part is standing when the fire is extremely bad. Their conclusion was that because the jet fuel went down the elevator shaft that it was able to completely melt all the steel reinforcements.
Why are you on here to “debunk” a very proven conspiracy?
Yes we all know buildings smash through the path of most Resistance without slowing down.
What all you "the planes didn't really bring down the towers" crowd needs to explain is not the physics, but that if some entity has the means and the will to bring the towers down, and knew that crashing jets into them would not be enough of a statement, why wait until most, but not all, people had evacuated? If you are ruthless and want a maximum statement with max casualties, then you would set off your destructive sequence as soon as the planes hit, or soon after. If you are more humane and you just wanted to cause massive damage and disrupt trade and economic activity, but with as few collateral casualties as possible, you would have waited longer until the buildings had been cleared. The timing doesn't make sense.
Actually, this is the most important thing that needs to be explained. If the physics don't work (and are not even remotely close), nothing else about a theory of investigation matters.
You are suggesting understanding motivations and being able to read minds is more important than physics. Such thinking is detrimental to investigation. First you determine whether or not a theory is possible (like a little bit of plane fuel melting an entire buildings worth of steel and concrete LOL) then you can try to fit in the motivations.
There was no planes! Only chopper 5, some poor compositing and Pinocchio's nose
It was never about the deaths, it was about the money. You could hear and see when they actually came down way after the planes, there were explosions all the way down.
I don’t know exactly why they waited, but it isn’t right to judge intent without knowing as that can be circumstantial, it’s right to judge the physics and the money that was tied to it.
We do know for certain that more than just a few random people knew about it. Following the money shows that it was well coordinated as far as the money is concerned.
Are you real? You're simultaneously defending the moon landings and the official 9/11 story. Dude, you're either a shill or brainwashed.
Rebar has very little influence on the structural integrity of a skyscraper; almost all the load bearing is done by a steel framework. And if they simply bend out of their triangular setup, you are fucked and an entire floor will just instantly get crunched.
All it needs to do is weaken it.you can evaporate steel with a vacuum and propane.
That was never the issue, the issue was there were eyewitness accounts of "molten, running steel" that persisted for days and, IIRC was corroborated by the USGS satellite thermal imaging data up to a week later via colour matching of incandescent materials.
People mocking people saying "Jet fuel cannot melt steel beams" believe they intended to say "Jet fuel cannot weaken steel beams". It was one of the most finessed red herrings ever. No. The people saying jet fuel cannot melt steel beams are saying jet fuel cannot MELT steel beams. Molten, pooled. flowing "like lava or a foundry" steel. Not that fact it gets soft when heated.
show me pictures of this "pool of molten steel"
better yet...
show me the solidified puddle of steel that was craned out of the bottom of that bathtub.
...in case you weren't aware, the towers were built in a "bathtub" to keep the adjacent river out. the molten steel would have pooled at the lowest point in the tub.
when the towers collapsed the entire tub was crammed full of twisted beams, mangled rebar, wires, pipes, etc... etc...
it was smashed down into that hole in the ground so hard it took them months to dig it all out.
how did "eye witnesses" see a molten pool of metal at the bottom of that massive debris pile?
a USGS sat img isn't going to show you molten metal, it will simply show you heat.
there was heat.
show me the metal
show me the massive solidified puddle
there would have been thousands of pictures taken as they craned that out of the hole... there are zero
there was no liquid steel, never happened, prove me wrong. show me. don't show me korey and dylans little film school project claiming there were eye witnesses... show me the molten metal, show me the solidified puddle.
i'll wait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLjPTHMe3OI
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Remember kids, the chair and vice chair of the 911 commission report resigned, citing agencies et al were being - in their view, borderline criminally obfuscating and deceptive when questioned.
Steel maintains 70% of it's structural integrity even once it reaches the glowing red stage
And let’s not forget to mention “Factors of safety”.....
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Ever see the video of railroad track being welded, they basically melt steel into a form using Thermite. Amazing how fast it works...
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the Pyramids were reported to have fallen 17 minutes before they actually fell.
Lol! Right?
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With such tremendous loss of life, I decided to "pull it"
Coincidentally, the Ever Given was recently purchased by Larry the Silverfish and heavily insured against acts of terrorism.
Later we find out that the captain had previously failed to even navigate a small bass boat months earlier at boat school but expertly navigated this massive boat through half the canal first.
Spongebob Square pants. Boating lessons for sure. Big Toe, Big Toe!
Yes learned how to launch and sail a large cargo vessel to a canal entrance but didn’t take and finish the canal navigation course
Yep, missed the "steady as she goes" training session for how to navigate a straight path. Can't....stop....laughing!
You forgot little Suzy Johnsons puppy dying in Bangor Maine, and the car crash in Phoenix right as the first building was hit.
Clearly related.
...and dancing Israeli art students celebrated its demise, then it glowed for months from tremendous heat generated by its own fuel. Then, war
He is suspected to be in cahoots with infamous mass shooter Sam Hyde and notorious hacker Fourchan
Since when does a president get involved in this type of operation? This makes it appear as though there was resistance to the idea of unloading the ship and had to be ordered. It's odd to say the least. It's what one would expect if Evergreen was worried about something being discovered.
Yes I thought this too! Like if it’s the only solution and simpler efforts weren’t working then those in charge of the canal would just do that. Surely they have Business Continuity and Disaster Recovery plans to follow that are already written, so why need a president to order it???
you just gave me ptsd from all the meetings our IT dept makes us go to
Username so fitting for these times.
True.
Some reports are saying these ships stuck in the area have livestock on them.
"livestock" eh?
Yea they said "sheep"
"baaaaaaah"
means "noooooooooo"
Not the livestock!
I saw a short news clip on the situation, wish I’d grabbed it. I laughed when they said they were worried about unloading it because the ship could tip over if unloaded wrong. I thought it was a funny idea at the time. Sounded more like an excuse not to unload to me. I think you may be onto something.
Too many eyes on it right now!
Simple solution. Just unload it right this time. Apparently wasn't that same concern when they were loading it.
I thought about that too. They loaded it fine. But I did see how they load it and they strap the boat into the dock crazy hard core, so maybe there is a little merit to their concerns. I can also see it as a way out. If they really panic they might to the boat on purpose?
I read something like that but I thought they were talking about removing ballast so it would rise up some. Not sure how they'd get the containers off unless there was a ship that could get there with the proper cranes. Removing ballast might cause the ship to become unbalanced.
Perhaps that is why it’s surrounded by US and Russian Navy. To shoot down anything that could be launched out of desperation
That is a great point. Or to prevent certain vessels from escaping.
Good call
They have been caught in the snare.
It could be nukes of a figurative kind as well y'know.
And if they find dead children, every cargo container in the world will be thrown open.
Egypt, the one Muslim country in the ME that fought back against Brennan’s “Arab spring”
Removed jihadists like an actual hotel bomber minister of tourism
The rest of the world understands fake news far more than westerners think
I have a neighbor who’s Egyptian and she says the night life in Cairo is off the hook right now - no masks - no lockdown - they’re laughing at us clowns of clown world
I am SO HOPING it is really going to happen thr way we want but it probably wont.
i know fren. I know.
President Trump and President al-Sisi (elected in 2014 after military coup in 2013):
“I just want to say to you, Mr President, that you have a great friend and ally in the United States, and in me,” Trump said.
Sisi said he appreciated that Trump has been “standing very strong ... to counter this evil ideology.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-egypt/trump-tells-sisi-u-s-egypt-will-fight-islamist-militants-together-idUSKBN1751WT
around LA and NY
https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/USNS-MERCY-IMO-7390454-MMSI-367816000
https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/USNS-COMFORT-IMO-7390478-MMSI-368817000
This whole suez canal situation has been great for the beginning of red pilling. My mom who has been a democratic her entire life called me to ask about it and the association with Hillary Clinton. I don't watch the news so I had no idea it was in the news and apparently she watches bill maher and he was talking about it. So naturally I started red pilling her slowly. She wants to know about Q, so here I go!
Good luck, Anon! Steady as she goes. Small bites.
Exactly, fren!
I'm jealous, wish mine would wake up :-(
It hasnt been easy...very slow. Good luck fren.
Are Chinooks powerful enough to lift one of these shipping crates?
They can carry up to 25k pounds. I’d assume so.
Some 40' containers can easily hold more weight than 25k pounds. Legal road weight is in the 35-40k range, I believe. Been a few years since I worked in transportation.
I thought 80k was the max?
depends how heavy it is, I suppose.
Actually, no they can't. An Abrams weighs 60+ tons.
https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m1.htm
The Chinook has a payload of 10,000 lbs., or 5 tons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_CH-47_Chinook
Not even a Sikorsky Super Stallion can lift one, and they have a payload of 36,000 lbs., or 18 tons.
https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/ch53e/#:~:text=The%20Super%20Stallion%20helicopter%20can,sponsons%20for%20greater%20fuel%20capacity.
Nope.. You'd need an Mi-26 for that..
Not even an Mi-26 can lift an Abrams. The tank weighs 60+ tons and the Mi-26 max payload is 20 tons.
Dumb question here couldn’t another ship come along side so they could move over the containers?
Not likely, not unless it has a built in crane that can lift 10 tonne containers.
Just a dumb observation ... if they remove containers it changes the buoyancy... ship raises up out of mud... floats away.
It’s not like they are gonna open the containers just move to smaller ships to get it in stuck... I said to do that day one but I’m no engineer, just have common sense
That's what the article says. That if they removed the tremendous weight of the containers it will get it up enough to float. I just wonder why it took so long to come to this conclusion. As you said, you said it on day 1. Surely some of them "experts" thought about it.
It’s much like the story of the truck stuck under the over pass... the police, fire department and engineers all stood around proposing different ideas... cut the bridge, being welders or high power jacks.... a little bit walks up and say why not just let the air of the tires and drive it out....
Experts usually miss the obvious but over complicating things... in my opinion...
But to the ‘Hope’ of this post... I also hope they unload and discover SOMETHING to start this thing off ... I been holding onto these fireworks for too long now
The troops, workers, low guys on the totem pole usually have the best ideas to solve problems. Then you introduce someone in charge: Officer, chief, whoever...then things get all fucked up. I see this time and time again in the fire dept
True that. Very few Chief officers with whole brains intact.
I think it’s more like brainwashed. They all buy off on the globohomo agenda the cities and counties push. Useful idiots chasing carrots.
The Dilbert Principle.
My experience is that the "someone in charge" is as worthless as tits on a nun if they didn't start out as one of those "low guys on the totem pole".
If that someone in charge worked their way up, they'll more than likely do a good job.
God help them if it is some overeducated pimple prick that got the position as a reward.
As you move up the chain, some people are changed. Wether they make choices by fear, political reasons, or simply because they are great at taking a test and retaining book smarts but can't apply 'knowledge' to real life scenarios....decision making gets skewed.
it may not be that easy. look at the waterline on the ships side... the painted red portion is elevated far up out of the water on the bow side. there is a lot of ship resting on/into that bank...
couple that with the "stucktion" of being wedged in there like that... like when you step in deep mud and it'll pull your boot right off your foot.
this is even more of a problem because it's abrasive sand.
they are going to have to vibrate the ship and the sand to hydrolyze the sand and water into an emulsion to break those forces.
like when you see guys pouring cement walls inside forms... they have those vibrating tools on the end of a hose they can submerge down into the wet concrete to get everything in a liquid state to allow trapped air to work it's way to the surface.
i mean i don't have a fucking clue on the specific situation or factors, i'm not there, all i have to go by is how far out of the water that bow is and a rough understanding of how heavy that ship is.
it's one of the largest of it's kind ever built... it's completely maxed out to the size of the worlds shipping canals.
we are talking a lot of weight here, even without the loaded containers.
they will likely have to resort to using a boom dredge to suck all the sand away from the bow as the ship presses down on the bank... they will have to "undermine" it (dangerous job)... and who knows how far back that thing is high centered... whoever did this set it to "ramming speed" before he veered into the bank... it's wedged in there real fuckin good.
TIL "hydrolyze"?
i liked "stuction" a lot too.
Look on the side of any ship to see what are called "Draft Marks," which indicate at a glance how much ship is below the waterline. Buoyancy changes cause change in the waterline; removal of weight/containers does lighten the ship "Lightering," but how to position cranes to lift those ceu's?
I did not know this... I’m no merchant marine but any sort... I would just assume taking weight would raise the vessel... but apparent I am incorrect. Thanks for the info
No, you got it right - maybe my explanation was confusing. Removing weight (containers) does raise the ship.
Quick, bring BLM in here to loot this shit. We'll make that boat light as a feather in no time.
Oh Shit!
I'll just leave this here...
Much easier said than done. There's a reason shipping containers only go to specialized ports with the right crane systems to remove the containers. Even in a dock with these cranes it still takes days to remove all of the containers.
Now, just imagine how hard this is going to be without those cranes, on a ship that's not even docked... in the middle of nowhere! How are they going to move hundreds of trucks in the middle of the desert? Even if they park another ship next to it for all of this its still hard to do. This can't be done quietly. Something big may happen .
Gonna have to open them up....
Actually, it's very easy. They already have everything they need to get it done. Simply yank the above-decks containers into the water with a cable and tug, dozens at a time. Containers are insured. They are lost at sea all the time. If you don't want to clean that up, tell people it's all free.
Considering who or what might be in those containers, that could be tantamount to murder.
Also, not a good idea to dump cargo containers by the dozen into the world's busiest canal. You'll end up making the situation worse. You'll need divers and helicopters to cart that shit out of there, as it would likely tear up the bottom of other passing cargo ships. The canal is deep, but I don't think its that deep.
99.9 percent of the containers will float. A small boat could easily move one.
If the boat symmetrically levitated to 33 feet above the canal and then rocketed into space at escape velocity and then sublimated into snow, NIST would release computer models telling us that this was totally caused by wind gust and global warming.
let the games begin
This is the (most likely planned) opportunity to red pill the world about trafficking and possible nukes being smuggled around the world. MSM is definitely covering the Suez being blocked - now those same MSM viewers might see what nefarious stuff is being shipped under everyone's noses.
Imagine the panic When your package is stuck somewhere....
Yeah, my expensive AMD consignment! But its all in a good cause..
In all reality I hope there are no children on that vessel. But I know it's highly unlikely that there aren't.
Sadly I do. I believe it was enroute to germany though
Actually, Rotterdam, Netherlands. Also a big trafficking hub. :(
My bad
“On Christ the Solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand, all other ground is sticking sand” ??
God controls the wind btw, using the wind as an excuse is just saying “God did it.” Like how God blew buydem up the stairs. I love God’s humor.
Future Breaking : massive fire breaks out on stricken ship stuck in the canal.
I pray everyday for a miracle. I ask the lord to protect any poor souls stuck in containers that they have a miracle their food and supplies will last the duration of this operation. May their food and water double in days. May their oxygen double as well. Amen.
I don't watch BUT is the MSM FAKE news panicking over this?
That would be a HUGE tell IMO.
A MSM-owned local radio station in my area was going on about how world commerce lost $400,000,000 per day while shipping was blocked. I'm sure they were off by a few zeroes, but they had a whole thing going 'why don't they just blow it up, get it out of the way so ships can get through? It's already lost money for that ship anyway..'
We are the news now. (Especially since the Smith-Mundt Act was repealed in 2012).
He got rid of the part that made propaganda in the United States illegal since 1947.
In other words lies.
This was the acceleration of the MSM fall from grace. I remember back when this happened - it was like a switch was flipped. The news started sounding like 'mean girls' and 'view' combined.
It was not repealed, it was modified.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/5736
"Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 - Amends the United States Information and Educational Exchange Act of 1948 to authorize the Secretary of State and the Broadcasting Board of Governors to provide for the preparation and dissemination of information intended for foreign audiences abroad about the United States, including about its people, its history, and the federal government's policies, through press, publications, radio, motion pictures, the Internet, and other information media, including social media, and through information centers and instructors. (Under current law such authority is restricted to information disseminated abroad, with a limited domestic exception.)"
Modified means changed. Face it the gov’t never does anything to benefit the people. The gov’t can disseminate propaganda (lies) to the American people using the many forms of media. Can you say, 4 a.m. talking points?
I was just telling someone yesterday that if that ship is as important as many think it is, they will bomb it to get rid of as much evidence as they can...
That won't be easy.
The American and Russian militaries currently control the waters on either side of the Suez Canal.
The Black Hats could potentially detonate pre-installed explosives on their cargo ships, if they had the foresight to install such failsafe devices. Even then, between the American and Russian space forces, any remote signals being broadcast could easily be scrambled. Perhaps that is why this is dragging on so long.
This could be a very delicate situation depending upon what is on those cargo ships.
That makes me feel a bit better, thank you.
It's all show.
Al Sisi is one of the good guys, comparatively speaking). He couped the illegitimate MB government and restored order, executed terrorists.
The article says ever given but the photo in the article of the boat has Ever Given spelt "Ever Green" for some reason.
Evergreen is company. Ever given is ship name
So if they unload by container how is anything found? Surely theyd have to open them to find anything?
Hopefully they hear sounds/banging and it grows from there. Only have to hear it once. And it won't be on top or sides, you know those contains will be buried.
Then it just explodes from there... find one, you start investigating it all. And then everything starts unraveling from there.
A few considerations: any human cargo would be shipped with food and a means to keep it alive to its destination which is presumably several days away (Rotterdam?). That same human cargo can go several days without food as well and would likely be shipped with an ample supply of water. They're probably still alivd but approaching the end of their clock.
If people start to die in those containers they will stink. A lot. Those containers cannot be air tight or the human cargo would suffocate.
Dogs. They will look for explosives, weapons, perishables...
We have methods of detecting trace elements and substances that tip off when bad materials, goods, or other things are inside of containers. For instance, detecting radiation for nukes, detecting lactic acid (stress sweat) for people, etc.
It's been a minute. May be dead bodies now.
They weren't set to arrive at their destination for quite awhile. If they are pulled out now it would actually be sooner than had they completed their trip I believe.
They changed 17 meters to 18. Interesting.
Death_metal_patriot do u have a cousin named Espvra?
I'll bet he's here, just rebranded.
Evspra got fed up and deleted their account a couple weeks ago
He’s now AppleJuiceWarrior and I thought I just saw him post a couple days ago.
Well I'm happy to hear that he's still here ?
This made me picture the Indiana Jones Ark of the Covenant scene?
Now this is the type of info I come here for!
Yaas SiSi!!!
There are no coincidences. Evergreen truck is also blocking some freeway in China... LoL https://www.unilad.co.uk/viral/evergreen-truck-blocks-chinese-motorway-just-days-after-evergreen-ship-jams-suez-canal/
It’s an impossible task. Those container ships are enormous. Imagine a sky scraper laying on its side huge. and it is 20 stories to the top container. each one of those containers requires a semi truck to move them over land. the will have to build a crane around the boat to unload it. they could not maneuver another ship next to it to unload the cargo. if the propeller is damaged, that things is going no where. the part that is grounded was not designed to withstand that type of pressure. if there is hull damage as a result, that beast will not he sea worthy.
he can order all he wants, but they FOOKED for a long time.
Egypt is the child trafficking hub too. According the the devils eyes this is where they send kids to have their papers doctored.