But other folks also prefer privacy too who are not criminals.
For example, a whistleblower, folks who are worried about being hacked, the government officials on this chat were probably all familiar with Signal.
The criminals thought they were safe using the Signal app however, military intel was intercepting every word.
This is not true.
Now we have a reporter from the Atlantic unknowingly being placed in a confidential conversation with the President. Has this ever happened before?
The president wasn't part of that conversation. It was a meeting of the principals of the National Security Council. The vice president was but not the president.
I don't think we've ever had a Principals meeting meeting on a regular commercial app before. We have wrong numbers and things being emailed to the wrong people before
Has national security been threatened in the past?
Sure.
Trump has due process and can subpoena encryption keys, I think there has been precedent set for this. Apple was forced to unlock a phone few years back. What will they find when they start looking? Media coordinating with democrats to steal elections? Treason? Conspiracy to commit murders or assassination?
This is not due process. They can't look into your phone because I did something on my phone. Also having Apple unlock a phone is not subpoening the encryption keys.
Nothing I said relies on coincidences.
And every single day is chock filled with coicindences
Why is this treason?
Why would one set of people using an app lead to a group of some unrelated people doing completely different things. Just because they use the same app.?
If I drive a Ford F-150 and you drive a Ford F-150 and you use your truck to rob a bank, how does that connect to me whatsoever??
I don't understand this part
How do you introduce evidence into an investigation, create a scandal using the SIGNAL app.
I mean has this ever worked? Can't you just introduce the evidence? Do you need something that looks like some big embarrassing thing?
Has there ever been an investigation? Where they just do some weird left turn and connect it to some other group of people who have nothing to do with the first group. Did they just use the same app?
It wasn't the Washington Post
If you want to do Occam's razor and actually find the simple solution. Ask yourself could this just be a simple goof up?
Could he have just selected Goldberg accidentally from his contacts?
Let's find out.
First, find out who is in the principals committee
Principals Committee The Principals Committee of the National Security Council is the Cabinet-level senior interagency forum for consideration of national security policy issues. The Principals Committee is convened and chaired by the national security advisor. The regular attendees of the Principals Committee are the secretary of state, the secretary of the treasury, the secretary of defense, the attorney general, the secretary of energy, the secretary of homeland security, the White House chief of staff, the director of national intelligence, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, the homeland security advisor, and the United States ambassador to the United Nations.
Then find out who was not on the group text.
Does this person who is not on this group text have a name that would be next to Goldberg in your contacts list? A name you could easily select by accident?
Find someone like that and you found out how Waltz screwed up.
That's a simple explanation. That is Occam's razor.
And yes I did do this exercise and yes the name fits
Occam's razor I lean towards a theory of "Signalgate" being intentional.
This is literally the opposite of Occam's razor. He is arguing for a more complicated explanation, not a simpler one.
His theory is based on the fact that the people in the room know how to use Signal and were foreign policy heavy hitters.
These are all heavy-hitters in the admin and most former military with the training and experience around handling sensitive information. .......Pretending they are clueless about operational security doesn’t pass the common sense test.
Then somehow he is surprised that it wasn't an ordinary group chat
Another sign that this was a calculated move was the fact that these messages sent in the group chat are long. It was odd how fully-formed the texts were crafted, as if bullet points on the ideas and policy goals for the administration. This kind of detailed discussion is usually reserved for foreign policy strategy meetings, not GC comm
Boy oh boy! Does he miss the point here. This is not an ordinary group chat. It's a meeting of the Principals Committee. That's one level down from a full National Security Council meeting. The principal being the head of the agency. You didn't get the deputy from the state department you got Marco Rubio. You didn't get the deputy at the CIA you got Director John L. Ratcliffe.
So it's completely unsurprising you got well-formed and thought out policy goals. They have staff working on this. It was obviously copied into signal. They weren't making this up on the fly. They were stating a known position.
So looking this up. I see no connection to usaid and the group is not going away. They are just changing tactics because the UK is not issuing new oil leases
Yes it's about preserving federal records.
it seems Goldberg/Atlantic has done that for us.
Still needs to go to the National Archives eventually
Judges don't investigate in America.
There is no judge investigating Signal.
I think what you are referring to is a lawsuit. This group sued several Trump administration officials and the judge is overseeing the case resulting from the lawsuit..
No charges have been filed because it's not a criminal case. This is a civil action.
There's no way you believe this
I agree he was flipped. Back in 2020 he sold all seven of his mansions and moved into a $50k prefabricated house that he rents.
Go look at any news report on this. Virtually every news report on this story includes his name and his age.
Henrry Josue Villatoro Santos, 24, was arrested in Prince William County, an hour outside Washington, D.C.
You can't arrest people in secret. That's not America. When you get arrested they create a docket at the courthouse.
He's got a court date on Tuesday 04/01/25 2:00 pm Porter 1:25 mj 204 USA vs Villatoro Santos Detention Preliminary Hearing Henrry Villatoro Santos Alexandria Court Room 400
This part is interesting they got up on this guy 7 months ago.
VILLATORO’s mother had reported a burglary at that address in August 2024, and FBI agents conducting surveillance had routinely observed VILLATORO entering and exiting that residence throughout March of this year
No coup was attempted
Presidential powers are limited by laws.
This is false, you can still act against terrorists. You just have to follow the laws. Nothing the judge did prevents that
And it's unclear if everyone who was shipped to Gitmo was even a gang member. Half are not being held in a prison which suggests they are not violent.