I was just telling my 17 yo son about this convo and asked him to please never treat women this way. Don’t make generalizations about women, abortion is not even close to being about “skanks” not wanting to pay for abortion, it is so complex and being mean and rude to women will NEVER help. We conservative women need to teach our boys to respect women, but also respect themselves and marriage. Having children is a divine responsibility. I’m married with 6 kids and a stay at home mom. I’m an enemy of the feminists but this conversation and the comments by these men is so unhelpful but my poor weak emotional illogical brain can’t handle what they are handing down apparently. Guess I better just make sure to teach my boys how to dumb it down for us women.
Understand just curious and I agree I don’t need any qualifications to have an opinion either…you seem to not like women and I would be curious as to what your wife or girlfriend or mother or sister thought of this. When my husband jokes like that he gets a dirty look and is in the doghouse for a bit.
Sorry but the way you write is very aggressive and tone does not translate across the internet. You don’t like my opinion fine, sure in the context yeah she cheated him but that wasn’t my point. She intended on paying him back and it was disgusting and wrong and it ended our friendship. Her boyfriend asked her to get the money from her boss so he wouldn’t have to pay it. I truly can see your point and your frustration! I’m sorry you haven’t met nicer women, there are plenty out there I know lots of amazing young women but this isn’t about modern women in my opinion. If you have a specific definition of “modern women” but there are issues with “modern men”. Yes the system is a mess! We agree. Unfortunately for me I’m a middle aged woman who is religious and my poor teen boys have been told over and over “Don’t have sex if your not married!” My boys have been taught don’t be alone with girls, my daughter is too young still but she will be told to not be alone with boys. If you don’t have sex with a girl she can’t get pregnant if she does you can have all the problems you mentioned. Choose a spouse wisely…it can still go wrong but do your due diligence. My husband and I have been married almost twenty years, he is my best friend and we have six kids. Life is full of unintended consequences, we need to make wise choices for the best outcome.
Thank you for sharing your information as well! If my anti vax friends hadn’t shared with me I may not have questioned so much with covid but I had friends plant the seeds years before. That’s how we change things I guess.
Are you married?
Oh I see now, yeah not my convo and I don’t agree with you. I don’t believe that would stop abortion at all. As I know women who have had abortions and why and it wasn’t about people paying for it. You seem like you just like insulting women, but that’s just how it’s coming across …sorry you haven’t met many nice ones. Go to church and you might meet some. I don’t go to places like clubs or places that sell drugs or places where women sell their body for drugs, I actually know a lot about abortion and stories why women have had them because I’ve read their stories. It wasn’t about getting it done for free. Again that was a generalization and you seem to be getting a tad bit emotional, don’t get worked up we are just discussing our opinions. Why can’t you just state your facts and not get mad and let me state mine. you made a post but only want comments from people who agree with you?
Well then it wasn’t written very well, and I don’t see any benefit from it. It came across rude and if my simple woman mind and emotions can’t handle it maybe you should dumb it down for all of us emotional women who make up half the population. I have not often commented on any post being rude in all the time I’ve been on ga.win. I don’t personally know any of these type of “modern women”
Wow, how did you get that I agree with her?. I gave 2 first hand examples. She borrowed the money with the intent of paying it back, she was no longer my friend after that, we worked together and never hung out again…my point was she was paying for it herself. She wasn’t trying to cheat him she just lied so he’d give her the money but she completely intended to pay him back and her boyfriend supported it and asked her to get the money. HE agreed with her! What about the pharmacist (man) who spiked his girlfriends drink with the abortion pill. The guy who murdered his pregnant wife? Evil comes in male and female form, just saying abortion is not just about women. I follow live action on FB which is stories about babies surviving abortion. These women are not trash, their stories are sad and many reverse the abortion they tried to do, there is a whole organization that helps. It’s amazing. My husband values and respects women, he is nicer than I am most of the time. I can be pretty critical when necessary and sometimes when not but he does not follow things the way I do because it disturbs him too much. I tell him it doesn’t help anyone ignoring it but he can’t stand hearing about children being abused or abortion, I can’t either but I won’t ignore it. So he just stays blissfully ignorant. I admit I get upset but I have to just keep speaking up and hope he sees what I see eventually. I’m just saying as someone who does not buy into political correctness, I do not take offense easily, and take most things with a grain of salt the way women are generalized was not super helpful. I can see your point but it really is kind of offensive. “Modern women” can mean a lot and that is really general term. I don’t personally know anyone women that would fit this description.
I see your point and you could be right, again not man so it’s much more difficult for me to have a first hand opinion. I don’t trust doctors anymore but I’ve been raised to trust doctors and knowledge. It’ll be interesting what the next few years bring as more and more people stop trusting the Fauci’s
Thank you for that, I was just speaking with my sister about this and being a parent is tough. I’m just trying to explain parents who choose to do it aren’t bad parents trying to mutilate their kids, I vaccinated all my kids because I trusted the doctors. I don’t anymore…I don’t trust vaccines. Maybe circumcising is bad but you’ll have a difficult time convincing those who do it and believe it’s good. I don’t mind if people ridicule me, not fun but I’m trying to just give another perspective. As parents I truly believe most of us are trying to protect our kids. We just don’t have all the info. My husband and boys are healthy and happy. My special needs son is the happiest kid in the world it seems. He is truly an angel on earth meant to challenge me but I really am trying to trust God to help me protect them and do what’s right.
This is your opinion and mine is it’s insulting and I don’t think it’s helpful I think it’s rude. One of the best things about women is our compassion and being able to feel emotions. Would you like a heartless emotionless mother? I have plenty of logic, I’m educated and have made it pretty far in life and successful raising 6 kids who haven’t become liberal, work hard, don’t do drugs, love God, their family and country. You are making a statement about me when you don’t know anything about me or my experiences. Im not getting emotional I am stating an opinion just as your are. You seem to be making assumptions based on your opinion of women which is fine. You are entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to tell you I think it’s rude and unhelpful.
This type of conversation doesn’t help and it is a tactic of the marxists, leftists, globalists, turning the sexes against each other. Generalizations of women is not helpful just as generalizations of race are not. The left is trying to tear us apart this way, many of our young women have been indoctrinated but by calling them names and trash doesn’t help and won’t get them to our side. Many young women change when they get married and grow up just as young men when they are young and stupid but I’m not calling the whole younger generation of men losers. They are young and need to learn, that’s what we are here for.
That is truly horrifying and you’re right some are just plain evil…like the male pharmacist who spiked his girlfriends drink with the abortion pill and she miscarried or than man who kills his pregnant wife or girlfriend so he doesn’t have to have the responsibilities of a family. This isn’t men vs women, this is righteousness fighting evil. Protecting innocent and those trying to pit men against women for blame are not helping.
This is insulting as a woman who has given birth to 6 children, one girl who is a beautiful, bright compassionate daughter now. Do you have a girlfriend or wife or daughter or sister? More and more women are pro life, abortions have been declining as more people become pro life and learn the horrors of abortion. I only know a few who are even pro choice and they don’t support partial birth abortion. Do you have friends who are women? Do you talk to women…or are you basing your opinion on what you get from Twitter? Twitter is notAmerica…libs if ticktok is not American women. Look at statistics on who is getting abortions and why, it’s not all about money some of it is ignorance, fear and I’m sure some of those sex trafficked girls being forced into abortions aren’t paying for it either way. I have only known a few women who ever admitted to an abortion. One was a girl in the military, she was 19 the other was a woman in her 20’s and she and her boyfriend decided they weren’t ready…it was awful because she borrowed the money from our religious boss lying saying she had a miscarriage. I told him the truth when he asked about it, she paid for the abortion herself after paying our boss back. People who want an abortion will pay for it either way.
I’m sorry if you were circumcised against your will and are angry about it now. I’m just stating you won’t convince someone like my husband or boys or his family of mostly men. I guarantee it!
Are you a man who this happened to and are angry? Sorry if that happened to you but every single man I know supports it. At this point it is far far to late as my oldest is almost an adult and none of my family has a problem with it. You can continue to try to convince people but I don’t see you having much luck with people like my husband and boys
Completely entitled to your opinion, all the men in my family support it and as I come from a family of almost all women as a kid and then marrying into a family with almost all brothers…I had 5 sisters dad died when I was young, raised by all women for the most part I take the experiences and advice of my husband and respect it. All the men in my family are wonderful spiritually, physically and emotionally. Can’t say the same for the women in my family though there isn’t anything I have seen to get me to agree with you. Also I wanted to add, I was almost late getting my special needs son on the bus because I was responding (I have a problem sometimes) and I mentioned to the bus driver who is also a mom to a boy about the conversation and why I was almost late. She agrees with me and mentioned her sister is adopting/foster and had to petition the court to get the kid circumcised and the judge said it was a no brainer. Which led me to think about my special needs son who is going to be 9 in September. He is developmentally 2 and yeah if he was not circumcised it would be a nightmare for us to clean and I have no doubts he would get regular infections and have to have it done which would be horrible to try to deal with it as he won’t take any medications. Can you imagine trying to clean a developmentally delayed preteen or teens penis for him? He does not wipe his own bottom or wash his hair himself, it’s already hard enough. We can’t get him proper haircuts because of sensory issues and he gets scared so he has longer hair. You will never be able to convince me that not doing it would have been better. As his mother I feel if it’s not the best it was the best in the situation.
If you’re talking about circumcision I’ve had this conversation with the male members of my family and they all support it. My sister married a Hispanic man whose family didn’t practice it and her brother in law had to get one at the age of 22 because of infection and said it was horrific. I’ve heard that from many. My brother just said the other day he argued with a woman about it and she told her she was crazy and that he wouldn’t change it and risk having it done older. Not a man so I can’t say for myself but my husband is pro circumcising and all our boys are. Knowing how terrible they are with hygiene I’m guessing they are probably better off but again not a man.
We moved from Az to Kansas just before the covid nonsense. It was toughest on my freshman (15 yo at the time). He is a junior now and about to turn 18, he hasn’t made friends and has struggled-because the schools isolated and shut down so much, things are getting better, he has a job and schools are getting back to normal. I was talking with my uncle today about the move. He has no intention of ever leaving Az because it’s home and his family is there. My family is my husband and kids, they are the most important and home is wherever they are. No matter what comes as long as we are together and prepared we will be fine. We’ve been through trials before, but we have each other. We have been made sure to prep for any emergency since we moved here because of tornados at first and now because I know there are crazy globalists intent on enslaving and culling the populations. There are no guarantees in life from sickness, loss or illness. Enjoy time with your family, make memories and have fun, prepare but don’t waste time worrying about things we can’t control.
I never went on Twitter before, I have FB but hate FB. I only went back on after leaving family and friend for another state just before covid. I’m here every day multiple times. Makes me happy! I’m on truth but only periodically and don’t post much.
My OB told me after my miscarriage that one in five babies miscarry especially before 12 weeks. Don’t beat yourself up worrying if it’s something you did! If it’s your first miscarriage after multiple live births consider yourself lucky like I did. I had a friend who would miscarry 2-3 times before having a successful birth. She went on to have 5 kids…maybe more because she moved. I was fortunate to have 5 live births before a miscarriage but I know many many women who all did everything right and still miscarry. That being said being sad is absolutely ok too. I felt horrible feeling bad because I had 5 children living and felt selfish mourning the loss but they are babies and it’s ok to feel sad.
This is hilarious! My kids used to go to that school until we left the state and my husband and his siblings went to that school, and it is in a extremely affluent neighborhood surrounding the school! I know a few of the women who helped with this years Hawktion. I used to help make baskets but never went because they were too over the top for me. One year they auctioned off lunch with Will Ferrel and everyone had to wear white. He was filming a movie in the neighborhood at the time. The moms of Hopi are probably pretty ticked over the accusations, predominantly white women. The school/area already gets criticism for being too white.
I truly am and because of his story I have compassion for everyone who struggles with SSA. My sister says I’m “homophobic/transphobic” because I don’t agree with the lifestyle and approve of it. I don’t think it’ll truly bring joy but we all have to make our own choices and we all will sin. She thinks it’s wrong to call any of that a sin. We make mistakes, repent and try to be more Christlike which is love the sinner and not the sin. I wish I had more time with my father, I was 7 when he died, but I’m glad I know his story and I will always be proud of him for surviving his abuse and being a better person. He never laid a finger on any of his kids. It’s difficult to explain to her, she drives me crazy sometimes. I made the comment to my more lefty mom the other day (religious mom but somehow is one of the asleep people who equates dem policies with Christianity) that I’m thankful I’ll never have to face judgment for supporting abortion/murdering babies. She doesn’t “support” it but she supports those who do and won’t listen/believe the evil they are doing. She thinks it should be “safe, legal, and rare” Someday she will have the knowledge that she supported such evil and that is not something I want to have to account for. I know I will have plenty, just thankful that’s not one!
My father had the same issue and struggled even after marrying my mother and having 6 kids. He actually had an affair on my mother with his best friend. He had a lot of trauma as a child that really confused him (sexual and physical) but chose to stick with my mother…this was in the mid 80’s so different time. He died not long after in a car accident but chose his wife and kids and counseling. It wasn’t easy and I truly feel for those who struggle with it. It was a big scandal in our community but I guess the scandal would be sticking with your family in today’s world. One of my sisters (woke lefty) said years ago she wishes our father wouldn’t have died and just left us for a man and been happy. Except he wasn’t happy when he cheated on my mom. My mother was his best friend and he always wanted to be a father. I would have been upset had he abandoned us for a man as opposed to having no choice but to leave because he died. It wasn’t his fault he died. Still don’t know what her point was.
I won’t make assumptions about you or your life and you shouldn’t about mine from a few posts but my husband and I tease each other all the time with sexism and joke about him sleeping on the couch. We have been married almost twenty years, we have had 6 children together. He is my absolute best friend and we have been inseparable since we started dating, we are an amazing team in raising our children and completely united in our values and how we raise our children. He used to joke about how if I get fat it’s grounds for divorce, he tells me women get old and men get distinguished. I never did get fat so I’m in the clear and still married and I’m aging better than him so jokes on him 😆 . We got engaged 2 weeks after dating and married 3 months later, I don’t know what I would do without him. I value him as the man he is and I’m a stay at home mom. I clean and cook and ask him to kill the bugs. I respect his role as the father and he respects mine as the mother. He would never seriously denigrate women as I would not men…especially as I am raising 5 boys. I would never allow my boys to speak about women this way in front of me nor would their father. I guess we are just old fashioned but I like it that way. We manage to have peace in our home and provide a refuge for our children from the evil world. We have fun and I wouldn’t change it for the world. I never use sex as punishment, we hardly fight in general we really do just get along and see eye to eye on most things. I got very lucky to marry my absolute best friend in the whole world.