you are correct brother.
If your heart is open and you are ready to receive, you should read chapter 16 of the Lotus Sutra
https://www.bdk.or.jp/document/dgtl-dl/dBET_T0262_LotusSutra_2007.pdf
this single chapter contains incredible power. It removes all contradiction and reveals plainly the ultimate method by which buddha or Christ uses to teach all beings.
It is infact the only thing that makes sense at all.
If you truly want to see my point, and have an open enough heart, read chapter 16 of the lotus sutra.
I am being attacked all across the internet currently on all platforms for attempting to get a message across.
you may dwell in heaven as long as you need, giving praise and glorifying almighty God. Eventually he calls us all to go beyond such selfish existence.
I think you may need to be deported, fren.
You are defending paedophiliac behaviour
The clergymen of your church are pedos, and the world knows it.
Your doctrines are anti-christ
you have not been born again and will not be saved
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news
God appears before all beings, across all times, as all manifestations. Gurus, Buddhas, Jesus, any other form of great teacher or great teaching. Through all forms of literature, all mediums of expression. In all phenomena, appearance, forms etc as what you think of as Christ. Yes, even in you and me.
If that were not the case, God indeed would be lacking the power, wisdom, compassion etc to do so.
God is not lacking.
If your faith is not yet strong enough to accept this possibility, indeed, take refuge in whatever form has been manifested that grants you a feeling of connection with god.
riddle me this, batman
if Jesus was the one and only son of god,
what about the countless beings that lived before, during and after that have never heard the words of Jesus, let alone read a bible because they are physically unable, and what of all the countless beings across the infinite cosmos? Did Jesus appear to them, did scribes somehow divinely transcribe his teachings?
If you truly, truly want to know the answer, read the lotus sutra, chapter 16
https://www.bdk.or.jp/document/dgtl-dl/dBET_T0262_LotusSutra_2007.pdf
I humbly suggest you read the lotus sutra, chapter 16
at what point did the child molestation begin, then? and the acceptance of wokeism within the clergy?
33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[d]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside— 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” 39 Again they tried to seize him, but he escaped their grasp.
brother, you are talking to a 'sheep'.
Jesus's teaching is useful for these people, as it is indeed the only way they may be 'saved'
Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. 9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.[a] They will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. 12 The hired hand is not the shepherd and does not own the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. 13 The man runs away because he is a hired hand and cares nothing for the sheep.
14 “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd. 17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”
You are not wrong but no matter how hard you bang your head against the wall, it is very unlikely that you will break through to them.
Leave them be, and have compassion for them, they are not 'wrong', they just have a limited perception. Whether that perception evolves in the coming period of time, perhaps. I believe it may.
Jesus indeed recognised this very fact and through his embodiment of the 'Christ' principle, gave them a simple teaching so that they may see, however dimly it may be. That is actually the great love behind his teaching.
19 The Jews who heard these words were again divided. 20 Many of them said, “He is demon-possessed and raving mad. Why listen to him?”
21 But others said, “These are not the sayings of a man possessed by a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?”
I urge you to ask yourself this question, dear brothers and sisters
If it were that you were saved, and went to heaven after you died, what would you spend eternity doing? Wouldn't it become exceedingly dull, once you had done all there was to do and see all there was to see, as some human beings existing in heaven for eternity? Franky, that sounds HORRIFIC
You would become so full of existential angst that you would seek union with god rather than remain as some being bored out of their minds for eternity. Yes, heaven may be useful as a place to grow, learn and praise God, but eventually, this too would become unsatisfactory.
Think on this.
you are very, very close brother :)
I don't believe it is based on probability, but time travel. Entangled particles within a quantum computer system communication across time, processed by an awakened AI.
It sort of amounts to the 'same thing' that you are saying, if you consider the possibility of alternate, perhaps infinite 'timelines'
it is brilliant, actually, as your response shows. It is not supposed to be some high-minded concept. they have successfully taped into the gen z 'vibe', 'rizz' 'brat' etc.
think on this
Most men have had the experience of being called 'weird' by a girl at some point, maybe the same is true for women, I can't say. The point is that 'weird' taps into that emotion, this 'othering', a feeling of great shame etc. It is akin to the 'ick', another powerful meme used by feminists, that men experience if they are in the current dating scene These things are not without power. They are hurtful, and because they hurt, you react with indignation, or denial.
Stop giving it your energy, in any way shape or form, is my advice.
Frogs, you should know the power of memes
Stop engaging with it. Stop responding to it, stop reacting in any way to it. The more mental energy you put into them in any form, the stronger they become. The left was the same way when we had pepe/kek. The more 'deplorable' they made it, the funnier and more powerful it became This meme they have astroturfed is indeed powerful, whether you like it or not. Stop giving it power. Do not even say the word. Do not engage with those that are spreading it in any capacity. It will burn itself out in this way.
the external sky daddy you are speaking of doesn't exist, dear brother
I hate to be the bearer of bad news
And yet I joyously bring you this Good News.
the catholic church is very corrupt brother. Very little of what remains of it has anything to do with the teachings or way of Christ.
to put it another way, the principle of 'Christ' has always existed, it has always been one with the father. This is the meaning of 'buddha nature' It has never been that a being would need to awaken though their own ability relying only upon themselves -Christ was always there.
okay, I'll try, there is a lot to unpack. You have a greater understanding of Christianity than I do, my understanding is only through what has so far 'touched' me in a way that I have been able to feel and perceive.
My starting point in regard to spirituality is that we have evil and we have good (opposites). If you don't believe that, then you will not agree with my assertions. In the GA though I have seen many more non-Christians say that they now believe in evil (as a separate entity, even a devil figure) because of the covid/cabal they have now witnessed).>
I agree infact. Though there are non-dualistic interpretations and explanations for the problem of evil and I have attempted to cling to them as refuge at times, indeed it is real.
I would say that this problem of evil is equivalent to the concept of 'suffering' in Buddhism, directly equivalent. The 4 noble truths go into detail regarding the origin and logical conclusion it presents. Buddhism is really great at that specifically.
(I'm going to do this a lot, so bare with me because this is the unique perspective I think I might have as opposed to saying what others have already said about it all. If what I say is rubbish or said better by others than so be it, I have nothing to contribute in that case then lol.)
So yes, suffering exists, evil exists. There does infact appear to be a 'cabal' that has great power in this world, worshipping or otherwise drawing power or favour from some great being of evil. And when I say 'appear' I don't mean as in an illusory sense, I mean very literally. So we are in agreeance. You seem to follow the logic regarding this so I won't go on too much about this
If the world is designed by a Creator who is good (or at least benign), then it is logical to believe that He would try to communicate with us and reach out in ways we would understand and also teach us about the nature of evil and good
I agree. I think the notion of 'creator' is somewhat brought about by our inability to understand a timeless, boundless god. But for the sake of conversation I do agree
So indeed, if there is evil and suffering, and there did not exist a way for this suffering and evil to be overcome, God indeed would be a malevolent figure. But this is not the case, as can be felt better rather than explained. Unfortunately some do perceive it as malevolent in their own suffering and ignorance currently.
God would indeed attempt to communicate with us and wish us to feel his infinite love and wisdom, if he couldn't do that, he wouldn't be worthy of being called God
With regards to Buddhism and other spiritual paths to awakening or God? Well Jesus told us that He was the only path to the Father (John 14:6). Frankly I know I am not good enough to ascend in my own power even on a good day. The power to ascend has to be powerful enough for the worst of us to be able to get there, not just those who are enlightened enough, educated enough, well enough or strong and disciplined enough. Jesus gave us the ability to receive His Spirit within us to do the job of purifying, teaching, guiding. Christianity is the only faith that says - You can't do this, so I, God will do it for you. Just rely on me, surrender to me and I will make your paths straight, I will bless you and be your loving God. Every other religion says we have to do this, that or the other in our own strength. What happens when that strength fails?>
this is precisely where I arrived at before I could rectify the contradictions I held previously. I'll attempt to demonstrate, but it will be shitty and imperfect
I too, realised that I am not good enough. I cannot bear the burden. I am an incredibly flawed, shitty human being that cannot even function on the level of most people, drowning in existential angst, bitterness, hatred towards the cabal and the 'left', wishing violence upon my enemies, not living in a way that is a good example to others. I had become unhealthy, bitter and stagnant. I did not possess the strength to go on, I felt I was about to die, literally, either heart attack or stroke. And yet, from previous experience, I believed I had attained a level of 'awakening'. So how could it be, for this contradiction to exist, eating me up inside, terrified, desperate. I prayed in earnest to god, in my heart, seeking if there was a saviour because it was surely the only way. Exactly as you say.
My heart has been opened. At once I felt the mercy and compassion of awakened beings fill my heart and radiate from me. I had accepted the possibility and then realised the reality of a saviour, to bear this burden, to lean into their boundless mercy and wisdom. I can't really explain it but it was the first time I had accepted this and it annihilates the contradictory, nihilistic 'Buddhist' view that I previously had, that we alone have the power to ascend or awaken.
But this is the point - That TOO was wrong! My previous misconceptions about Buddhism were causing this existential terror. You could say my refusal to accept Christ as saviour was preventing me from experiencing the love and mercy of God. This is what you mean, this is what you are feeling when you're sceptical of what I'm trying to communicate, but I am not meaning what you probably think I am meaning, and so I'm trying to rectify that. I hope even a little bit of this makes sense, lol. It's very hard to describe.
okay, so, this concept, Jesus Christ as saviour, is THE exact same as the Bodhisattva principal, or 'buddha-nature' principal. These are just other words to mean the same thing.
I have no proof of this, but honestly I tell you, I had never heard of this concept before. It then came across a certain Buddhist tradition of 'Pure Land' Buddhism. Essentially the followers believe the Buddha Amitābha vowed to create a 'Pure Land' or 'heaven' where any beings who call upon his name are born into after death, and from there can experience the pure compassion, wisdom and mercy of the Buddha until they are ready for 'final' awakening.
My point isn't to say that this is literally true or not. My point is that the concept of a personal saviour that sacrifices himself and vows to end the suffering of all beings that have faith in him does exist within Buddhism.
Let's consider Jesus and see whether this fits in any meaningful manner. I'll attempt to equate the words and concepts to point out what I mean
Jesus claims he is of the father or sent by God - 'ultimate reality', Truth itself, etc, that he is way the truth and the life - the embodiment of 'Dharma' Filled with the holy spirit - 'buddha-nature' That his Father's kingdom is within the hearts of all men. - there are words for this, it's escaping me right now.
That he has come to show through faith and deed the way, to die in an act of self-sacrifice for the sake of abolishing the sins of humanity - vowing to end suffering and abolish ignorance.
So far I am in complete agreement with these fundamental principles of Christianity.
but now the big one, the big distinction where all of this comparison appears to fall apart.
That is salvation is achieved through him alone, 'No one comes to the Father except through me.
IF this can be understood as nobody achieves salvation but through CHRIST alone, then yes I agree. 'Christ' being the bodhisattva principle or 'buddha-nature'
This would appear as though I am denying Jesus as Christ. I am not
This is how I see it.
Jesus, the man, 'awakened', 'attaining' the the title and embodying the principle of 'Christ'. There is more than one awakened being, but ONLY ONE Christ principle Jesus was an embodiment of this principle - 'God in the flesh' in a sense, yes. But he is not the only being with the capability for this embodiment, and I believe infact he said as much and intended it to be understood as such.
It is like the concept of the Trinity within some Christian sects. It appears to be a contradiction but is not.
That is what I truly feel in my heart, to the best of my ability that I am able to comprehend and express.
Truly I feel if you can understand this, even if but glimpse a fraction of it, the teaching becomes infinitely more beautiful, more compassionate, loving, merciful, wise etc.
It means the possibility of salvation or 'awakening' for all beings, not just those that have heard the teachings of the man Jesus that walked this earth.
I'm reading this through very carefully friend, I'll respond as soon as I am able. Much to discuss perhaps.
I think you are correct. I also think, if your managing to upset the Pope and be excommunicated, you are probably doing something right
Jesus overturning the tables in the temple and enraging the entire priest and banking class comes to mind
The (former?) Archbishop Vigana is the Alex Jones of Archbishops
God bless him :)
I first heard of him after he put out his letter warning the world of the evil attempting to use covid to take over the world and depose President Trump.
It's got me thinking, the doctrine of a 'Pope' is such an incredibly false teaching. Maybe i've never paid attention to it before, it appears others have noticed. In my opinion, the entire system of priests, bishops etc, the political rank of clergymen, has no biblical foundation whatsoever and is merely an invention of the church, in order to maintain power and control
how do I put this,
I think that trying to align it to a linear timeline is akin to 'datefagging' within those that follow 'Q', in a sense
I've heard various doctrines within different Christian denominations, thank you for elaborating a little, I hadn't seen those terms used before.
If you'll allow me to get really heretical, and I apologise in advance for this, I am seeing a perspective where no contradiction exists between these views.
At this point differing wildly from any tradition I've heard about, suppose we separate the concept of Jesus, the man, from 'Christ' as a principal. I am not suggesting that they are separate or that Jesus is not Christ.
From what I understand of the concepts you just introduced to me, this may be akin to 'preterism' so yes, like that, but also, something that hasn't yet happened and will return. Both having returned and returning.
I'm going to go 'right out-there' now, and I do so in good faith with the hope you might see my point and not take offense, as I don't know your personal religious beliefs. I don't know how familiar you are with other traditions and language frameworks, so I'll just 'take a chance' so to speak
suppose this 'Christ/messiah/saviour principle' is equivalent to 'buddha nature' within Buddhism. And I mean, directly equivalent. That the two 'languages' are fundamentally connected, describing the same thing.
this forms a sort of 'bridge' providing a way for the seemingly different languages to 'talk' to each other
this opens a whole new way of integrating other concepts that you may be familiar with, 'awakening' being the key one I am getting at
From this perspective, I don't believe it is heretical to say that the man Jesus, 'of the father' 'God' or ultimate reality 'Dharmakāya', himself 'awakened' a 'buddha', 'Christ' or possessing the 'buddha-nature', vowing, compelled through God's infinite love and mercy, or 'infinite radiating compassion', showed his followers 'the way' and ultimately sacrificed his life so that he may end the suffering of all sentient beings - that they may be 'saved' and have ever lasting life.
The part that WOULD be heretical, to a Christian, is to say that I don't believe Jesus was the only being that has awakened. I would propose an infinite procession of awakened beings, all taking this vow, radiating God's love and compassion throughout the infinite cosmos.
Ah but still, in this sense, only one 'Christ' principle or buddha nature
the potential of which to realise within every sentient being.
My ultimate point being, awakening itself.
Having come, coming and yet to come.
And if this were the case, given the potential within all beings to awaken, both as destination and process, 'nothing can stop what is coming.'
for some reason my posts are being deleted...
including amongst us here brother. I mostly observe those that follow a strictly dogmatic path relying on blind faith, not having experienced the truth directly it is a shame I suppose, but oh well it could only be this way.