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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 1 point ago +1 / -0

You would be wise to not pretend superior insight to me, I assure you. What has he done that wasn't public knowledge? As I am not personally acquainted with him, if I know of it, then it is public knowledge. I supposed you mean what has he reported that is not public knowledge? What does any media personality report that is not public knowledge? I suppose when they do investigative journalism exposes, break exclusive stories and the like that serves to make information public that was not so previously. Alex has done that. His Bohemian Grove video is an excellent example. Most just report facts/alleged facts. And, without special access, they are reporting information that is publicly available. Their service is in discovering the information and successfully getting it out to the public, which Alex Jones has done MASTERFULLY and continues to do.

My guess is that you believe of him as you do because you have inexplicably chosen to have blind faith in either the claim that Alex is a Mossad agent, that Q warned us about him, that Bill Cooper warned us about him, or that he is actually Bill Hicks larping. Such views do not represent any deep insight or "looking beyond the veil". It represents lazy thinking and repetition of entertaining theories lacking substance. For me, if a Mossad agent, x-confirmed bad actor, or "dead" celebrity larp is the first to call to my attention to the fact that 2+2=4, the sun rises in the east, fire is hot, and ice is cold, I am grateful for the information being brought to my attention.

I feel I have better things to do than continue this debate. So believe as you wish, and I shall be content to agree to disagree.

Good day.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 1 point ago +1 / -0

Those slippers look nice!

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, that kind of annoys me, too! If it's always on sale, it's not on sale, you know? Nonetheless, that is a common sales tactic. None of us is perfect, but Mike seems to be doing the Lord's work, as they say. Some of the best info available is coming through his FrankSpeech platform. It is very refreshing the way they have long, conversational segments with very well informed people.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 3 points ago +3 / -0

Well, being informed, on the side of good, and seeing that literally all evidence points to Mike Lindell being entirely genuine and putting more on the line than just about anyone else, yes, sensible people on the right side of history still trust him. It would take some extreme, paranoid, likely schizo mental gymnastics to convince oneself at this time that Mike is anything other than who he claims to be. I have more evidence in your comment here that you are not to be trusted, a likely enemy shill, than you can produce to suggest anything negative about Mike Lindell. If you had anything of substance you'd be able to come up with more than the facepalm emoji, which, I might add, is not an argument. It is an example of a classic logical fallacy. Embarrassing!

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 33 points ago +33 / -0

Bullshit! If you spend the rest of your life trying to wake normies, you still won't have done a fraction of what Alex Jones has done, you ungrateful, upstart, pretender! You don't have to agree all the time, and he doesn't have to be right all the time, but Alex was on the front lines while you were still a lamb dependent on sheep for sustenance. I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings that Alex doesn't think exactly like you, but your absolutist sentiments are more in line with the scourge of Marxism around the world than the spirit of freedom advocated around here. Take your anti-Alex rhetoric over to reddit!

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not one word you said is true. Donors had all information. If they thought something else from their own imaginations, that's on them. The money is meant to establish a fund for such ongoing efforts. If you do not like that, feel free to not donate. If you thought it was something else from your own ignorance, make sure you fully comprehend what your'e doing in future.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't claim to speak for me, especially when you're this far off the mark. You seem to not understand how any foundation works. They fundraise for sufficient principal to fund their efforts via the generated interest. Perhaps $2 million is donated, but, over enough time, way more than that initial $2 million is spent toward the cause. Lin Wood called scammers out MONTHS ago. Lin Wood is a Christian Patriot who has done far more good in his life than you likely ever will. If you wish to malign his character, sign your own name to it, but don't you dare pretend to speak for me or anyone else! You sound like a shill here, and that should make you ashamed.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 5 points ago +5 / -0

There are actually several videos if you go to twitter and scroll through. It is the same place but different views. One shows the food, another the exercise situation (you can walk/run or make do with what's around; no real equipment or anything).

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 6 points ago +6 / -0

'We're "in the know". Most of us understand that Biden is not Biden. Most of us are aware of the battle waging behind the scenes'.

The above is a statement of FAITH. I only have faith in God. I hope the above you said is true, but it could be a psyop designed to keep us inactive. It reminds me of that old joke:

A man falls overboard from a cruise ship. Being a devout Christian, he begins to pray asking God to deliver him. Soon a small fishing boat appears on the scene and attempts to save him. He resists saying that he has faith God will save him. Later, another cruise ship happens on the scene and throws him a life preserver. The man refuses it saying that he has faith God will deliver him from his predicament. Next, the Coast Guard shows up and begins staging a very professional rescue. After shoo-ing them away as he did the others, the man cries out to God, "Lord, I have always trusted you completely! I've tithed regularly and followed your every command to the best of my ability. Why won't you intervene and help me now at my time of greatest need?!" He is met by a frustrated answer from the heavens: "My son, I have sent you a fishing boat, a cruise ship, and the US Coast Guard. What more can I do when you refuse to accept any helping hand I offer?!"

Moral of the story: we HOPE there is someone or something set to deliver us. But our faith should be in God alone. Hope for the best, but plan for the worst. Things will be so much easier and better overall if some great plan falls into place. If it does not, I am ready to die before I submit to Satan's will. Are you?

Let's all pray for an effortless solution, but let us also prepare to accept God's will for our lives whatever it may be. We have great wickedness amongst us, and it may be that the Lord sees fit to judge us as a whole as we know he has before. The Lord knows best. Accept his will whatever it is. Pray for his deliverance. Prepare for hard times if hard times we must endure.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, it very likely is inflatable. Your feelings and aesthetic sensibilities about language aren't evidence.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 2 points ago +2 / -0

I wanted to like Elder. Then he said the 2020 election was legit and Biden won fair and square. Even if he issued a plausible retraction, how could anyone support someone so ignorant and out of touch for governor? Old Larry doesn't seem stupid or out of touch, though. So more likely he's willing to do whatever it takes to have power. Newsome is worse, but I'm afraid Elder is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 6 points ago +6 / -0

Inflatable military decoys have been in use since at least 1943. That particular Ghost Army project was not declassified until 1996. Source: https://youtu.be/dDNlQuTbVC4

Btw, is it just me or does the female voice in the background at about 3:40 say, "...and also the plane would inflate up"?

In any case, not only is it plausible but likely that they would have inflatable aircraft and use them to deceive and manufacture fake news.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 3 points ago +3 / -0

It is absolutely impossible to recall Biden, impeach him, or anything like that. Those are all procedures for someone holding a public office. Biden lost the 2020 election. Therefore, he is not and will never be POTUS. He does not hold any legitimate office. He is basically just part of a criminal organization who has temporarily captured a portion of our great country. Even more than Biden, it is his criminal handlers that need to face justice. Ultimately, that is all in God's hands and only He knows the details. However, I believe he has great things still in store for our nation. But we need to trust Him and turn to Him no matter what.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 2 points ago +2 / -0

It is entirely possible you're just not very bright and much of the content was beyond your intellectual capabilities, I suppose shrugs

;)

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, that is my understanding from watching most of the event live. There were some bad actors there, however, and at least one has been circulating misinformation that would be difficult to spot for many. Psychological and information warfare is certainly being applied to the event and its aftermath. As I mentioned above, I apologize if I was too harsh earlier.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 1 point ago +1 / -0

I apologize if I was too harsh in my earlier response. When I responded I was extremely frustrated at how the media was running blatant lies about the Cyber Symposium and so many people were promoting versions of those lies. I may have vented some on you, and that wasn't fair. None of us knows everything, and we all make mistakes: me included!

In any case, much of the detail around the data is unclear, seemingly by design. We can speculate, and I certainly have some ideas, but, ultimately, we have to wait and see about a lot of it. Hopefully it will snowball into a lot of good news in the very near future. It is such a shame that we're all having to suffer under such nonsense as is going on in the world today. Life could be so much better. But I trust God has a plan, and we've got some excellent people and resources on our side.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 26 points ago +26 / -0

I am so terribly sorry for your loss. God's ways are not our ways, but we know that He loves us, and He has a plan. I believe that you will be reunited with her at the perfect time, and by then you will be blessed to understand why things had to be this way. Until that time, it will certainly be hard. Know that you will have many prayers for you and your healing. Trust God. I find turning to scripture can be very comforting. You might try playing an audio Bible on your phone or similar for comfort. In my experience, it can be truly astounding how the scriptures can bring comfort in the darkest times. Rest easy knowing, at least, that your wife is at peace now and has been spared any further exposure to the evils of this world.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 2 points ago +2 / -0

tl;dr: The nitter guy is a bad actor trying to discredit Mike. He talks a good game, but he exposes himself. Further, to someone qualified in such tech, it is pretty clear that this guy is full of you know what and likely not competent to perform the analysis he claimed to attempt. I intended to thoroughly dissect his thread, but I eventually lost patience with it and consider a full analysis to be a total waste of time. Thanks for linking it, though. I like to consider as much as I can of whatever versions of the truth are floating around.

Your nitter guy said, "FYI: nobody is going to win the $5 million. It's impossible to disprove election fraud. It's only possible to demonstrate that claimed evidence fails to prove it." This demonstrates that he did not even know what the requirements to claim the prize money were. Specifically, the money was for anyone who could prove that the PCAP's were not from the 2020 election. There could be fraud or no fraud and yet the PCAP's be legitimately from the 2020 election or not. Those two propositions are not related. (Update: He admits he got the rules wrong in post 10.)

He also said, "8/ Here’s a pic looking backwards. Btw, I’ll be the guy wearing a mask, because as you know I’m an internet troll and this is the sort of thing I do." This may be nothing, but I think I remember Mike identifying one of the bad actor infiltrators as being "the guy in the mask" or similar. Idk...

Further, "9/ Before this week, the things Mike Lindell posted were not recognizable as "packet-captures". This is what they normally look like. It's not required to look like this, but it's the level of detail I'll be getting into." The image he shows, to the bottom left, is hexadecimal -- EXACTLY LIKE WHAT MIKE LINDELL HAD POSTED.

"12/ Everyone is friendly and nice. Which is what I expected. We like to demonize our opponents, but really, they are almost always reasonable, kind hearted people -- even if in our own opinion they are wrong. On both sides." Curious that he identifies attendees as Mike's event as "our opponents", don't you think?

"17/ they have scrolling hexdumps. For one thing they scroll too fast to read, and for another, they are too blurry to read, and lastly, even experts can’t generally read hexdumps without decoders." I can read the hex from the image he posted of the screens at the event. If he is actually there as an authorized, credentialed cyber expert, there is a separate area where he accesses the PCAP's. The screens are more for show. You could pull data from the screens, but he is correct that it would be very inefficient.

"18/ The reason why the question “what’s the source of data” is so important is because we know that media reports of vote tallies where highly inaccurate, the media made lots of accidental mistakes." This is a lie. I'm increasingly convinced this guy is a bad actor, and I don't trust him at all. The media reported numbers are from the Edison reporting system that is plugged into the official voting system. When votes flipped on live TV, that is because they were being flipped in the machines. It is not "accidental mistakes" on the part of the media.

"20/ "they work for LeadStories? fact checkers? shame on them!!! .... they are the enemies of the people"

"That's me!!! That's me!!!! I'm not feeling ashamed, though." And he straight up admits he is a bad actor, dishonest, lying piece of excrement!

"28/ So what they gave us were these "HEX.txt" files, which when decoded (xxd -r -p filename) produces .rtf files. One of the RTF files contains a table of IP address, the others contain something in an unknown character set." That "unknown character set" is most likely because this clown is in over his head and not properly interpreting the data.

"31/ The delay is explained by a bunch of things going wrong, such as the guy who was a source of data getting a stroke." After several attempts to deflect from his own incompetence and blame it on the event coordinators, he said the previous. This claim of his comes from a debunked fakenews propaganda article from the Wastington Times. At the very end of that same article is a retraction and a quote from Mike's attorney that the alleged source and claims are completely bullshit.

"34/ So I got some straight answers from Spider:

  1. the data comes from Dennis Montgomery
  2. it's the data shown in those Lindell videos
  3. it's the hexdumps that have been scrolling in his videos and kiosk
  4. we cyber experts will not be given opportunity to verify it" Straight answers, my ass! This is more bullshit from the Washington Times article. I even bothered to find the link: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/aug/11/mike-lindells-lead-cyber-expert-says-they-cant-pro/

Here is what you'll find way down at the bottom of that article after you click to read more (it looks like you've finished already -- by design!): "Kurt Olsen, a lawyer on Mr. Lindell’s team said there were multiple sources of the data that Mr. Lindell claims to have, and did not confirm that Mr. Mongtomery was the source of the data. He also clarified that the $5 million challenge has not been canceled and that Mr. Merritt would not be privy to that information."

"Clarification: The article previously described Mr. Merritt as Lindell’s lead cyber expert. Mr. Merritt is a cyber expert on the red team hired by Mr. Lindell to interrogate the data for the symposium, and does not work directly for Mr. Lindell."

And I can't be bothered to waste any more of my time reading this disinfo agent's horse shit analysis. I'm sorry you wasted your time. The guy is clearly only interested in sewing misinformation about Mike's data. He's probably one of the infiltrators, like a CIA asset. This is to be expected regarding highly technical claims. It is too easy for ass holes like this clown to sound like he knows what he's talking about to laypeople while completely misrepresenting reality. To a trained observer, his grift is pretty transparent, but not many people understand technology well enough to see through his lies.

The bottom line is that, if anyone there could prove the data was not from the 2020 election, then they'd be $5 million richer right now. I have not seen the data, myself, so I cannot personally verify it one way or the other. However, I trust Mike, and the reaction of these various bad actors and the lying media looks like further confirmation that Mike has been vindicated.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm actually an authority on the matter. I will try briefly to correct your misunderstands.

I could scratch the PCAP data in the sand of a beach with a twig and, if you knew what you were doing, you could dissect from there. Granted, that would not be the most efficient way to do it. The PCAP's were mainly available for the people in attendance at the event, particularly those who had appropriate credentials relevant to such data analysis. Among the reasons the data hasn't been made more readily available is the fact that we're talking about 37 TB of data. That is a MASSIVE amount of data and would cost a lot of money to host for everyone in the world to possibly download. And why bother when only an elite few with proper training/understanding can even make any sense of the data dump? In light of this reality, Mike streamed hexadecimal representations of the data during the event and on his sites. I'd like to see him release it as a web torrent, because I would like to have a look at the data, myself, as I actually know how to go about analyzing it.

To further explain, computers work only with bits represented as 0's and 1's. You can open a photograph or an executable in something like Notepad, if you like. However, how you look at digital data strongly affects how useful that data is and how easily you can work with it. Rarely is Notepad an effective tool for data analysis. But, for example, if I had all the PCAP's as hexadecimal numbers in a Notepad file, I could EASILY write a script to convert that ASCII text data to whatever format is most conducive to the analytical task at hand. This is because hexadecimal is just a convenient way of representing binary, and the PCAP's are ultimately just binary data that is only meaningful when viewed as PCAP's.

Hopefully this has clarified your understanding of the matter. It is a very complex topic, and it is to be expected that lay people will be inclined to many misunderstandings surrounding it.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 1 point ago +1 / -0

Absolutely! It is telling that no one could debunk the data. So instead the media and its dutiful web trolls are pushing the false narrative that the PCAP's were not provided. That lie is being spread here, as well. I cannot tell for sure if it is all infiltrating shills or if some of the slower among us have fallen for the blatant lies surrounding the event.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think the requirement to claim the prize was to disprove the claim that the PCAP's Mike has are from the 2020 election.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 2 points ago +2 / -0

The dick move is propagandists who blatantly lie and shills who repeat those lies. The data was available at the event. No one could debunk it.

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RealTrumpsThirdTerm 2 points ago +2 / -0

Are you a shill or just misinformed? The PCAP's WERE disclosed exactly as intended. The data was scrolling on screens at the event and online. People on site had access to them, and OP is right: no one claimed the $5 million, because no one could disprove their authenticity.

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