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SwampRangers 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, u/Oldpatriot is using this image probably to focus on the individualism of "make me" rather than the total submission of "Lord and Savior". Jesus did say "Follow me" and give other imperatives that can imply individual action, but our action is always enabled by and submissive to his; he says "Buy gold of me" but then "If any man open the door" etc. He certainly said "After this manner therefore pray ye", but not with a "sinner's prayer", for which he recommended just "God be merciful to me a sinner".

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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

Great question. It seems to me that clay tops (dreidels), oily foods like potato pancakes (latkes), and gaming for counters like beans (bupkes, no just kidding) could have been part of the celebration early, with the game being themed toward the motto of miracle. But probably not all by Jesus's time, because the book of Maccabees would be read but it doesn't include the miracle of the oil, which was added later, whether it was originally oral history or just legend. Also in early centuries some would drip drops of honey on the parchment scrolls to give the kids a positive tactile experience of a Torah, though that's not necessarily festival-related. And "6:13" is rather scattershot in their hits and misses.

John doesn't tell us how to celebrate. The temple menorah had seven branches so the ability of the ordinary person to remember the occasion with a nine-branched menorah sounds more European.

Purim is to be celebrated with great rejoicing and this is taken as being more raucous than other festivals, but I don't know the ages of traditional foods. Certainly all these festivals are encrusted with cultural layers just like Christmas.

"Reweigh all the traditions" is a great watchword! In my reweighing I've just started saying "Merry Christmas" more often!

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SwampRangers 4 points ago +4 / -0

IT'S HAPPENING

My Ron Paul sign has been up for years and it's finally getting traction! Welcome back c/ashlanddog.

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SwampRangers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Incidentally, since I decided to snoop on your profile (see u/me), I noted you just got a GreatAwakening mod ticked for some reason, minutes ago. Somehow you've now gotten banned from this subchannel only, and 3 of your comments have been being deleted. The public logs show the first line of each deleted comment in GAW and I don't see a reason for each of them to be deleted at different times.

I'm not connected with the GAW mods so I don't have an answer for you as to why. You won't be able to reply to this comment while that decision stands, but you are free to message people and to use any other sub, such as c/Christianity. If you'd like me to investigate further, please message me, reply to me elsewhere, or use my name "u/SwampRangers" in a different sub.

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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

Then what man finds impossible....

Get your popcorn, I'm fomenting a healthy mod war on this very subject.

To see all Christianity posts (very eclectic but always Scriptural and creedal), use c/Christianity/new.

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SwampRangers 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes, in 525 AD. It's a great joy to recover God's festivals and chosen appointments! I tell people that Jesus celebrated Hanukkah (the translation of "Dedication" in John 10:22).

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SwampRangers 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well hello again, glad I clicked on two pages you were interested in too!

I once made a list of jokes about Santa's counterfeiting God. He loves sweet-smelling food and drink offerings, he is watching us from a distance, he has representatives in every city to teach about him and his ways. It's funny kinda like saying "Jesus was a woman because he hung out with 12 men but did all the work".

I encourage you, and you might see this in the link I gave you separately: as you show people the truths you've received, be also prepared to receive the possibility that they may be seeking to worship God alone sincerely. That is, I teach my kids about the wonderful bishop, Nicholas of Myra, who was godly and generous, and who also loved to slap antitrinitarians in the face. There's nothing wrong in itself with remembering his example like that of many other saints as it inspires us to be generous especially at this season. However, when the real Nicholas is presented to the kids early, then we have time to interact with and unpack the red hats and mall lines and Coke ads and red noses at our leisure.

There's indeed a trillion-dollar demonic counterfeit out there. The war is too serious to go in guns blazing when that might just be another stratagem of the enemy to trick us into friendly fire. Looking forward to how you receive this.

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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

His spirit is everywhere, his body is still in Myra, Turkey. DOGE can now trim out this NORAD function.

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SwampRangers 4 points ago +4 / -0

I've come to believe the Annunciation and Incarnation, Jesus's conception, happened on Julian 25 December, 2,028 years ago (5 BC). I think this is what God will replace the confusion with.

Welcome u/GaetzIsInnocent!

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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

u/LongTimeListener discerns a key detail, I don't think Trump really wants the debt ceiling removed. Postponing reconciliation puts it in his turf, and outside his hands for the crucial first 17 days. Thus, "Speaker Gaetz it done".

He's also making everyone aware of the fiction of debt. By advocating something that sounds crazy (need to review his words, he didn't say drink bleach), he's demonstrating absurdity, as a Rushian. He's also getting ahead of the spenders and globalists. The goal I HOPE is stable currency and that means assaulting the FRN without hyperinflation, an unheard-of task. (If we pass a Balanced Budget Amendment there's no need for debt ceiling, is there? Hmm! It was always a Band-Aid on top of another.) So The Plan may well involve some kind of gold and labor standard with an automatic binder on debt that transcends having a glass ceiling on every floor until we reach Babel.

You've got to hand it to him, NO POLITICIAN has ever attacked the SS with such force, proposing to defund it and its daughters of a mandated $2.5 trillion! Since 1935, when the first applicants got beaucoups more Ponzi coupons than they paid in, the story has been "lockbox" and "honor" and everyone knows there is no incentive to stop the cheating. Yesterday was really unprecedented in world history in its scope. There is no historical analogue, never such an austerity accepted voluntarily by so many all at once. Who could've scripted this? How many billions were spent in soft work preparing for this exact revelation of the saving of people from the insecurity system? It's Isaiah 52:7 every day here.

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SwampRangers 4 points ago +4 / -0

I forgot to say, this really does count as a separation of issues because the debt ceiling was separated from the other 3 issues together. At the same time it puts the responsibility on Congress in that little window between Johnson's term and Trump's term.

SPEAKER GAETZ IT DONE

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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes but he's staying within his bounds and did not actually use the term "fake Jews". Instead translator says "They're ethnic Jews, but has, has anyone seen them in a synagogue? I don't think so." This only puts them in the extant "secular Jews" category.

u/Donny_Fiasco u/Karmlik u/mjs001 u/MysteryBabylonNoMore

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SwampRangers 1 point ago +1 / -0
  1. At 6:02 p.m., American Relief Act of 2025 passes House, basically Trump's version except for no change in debt ceiling (instead limits were raised $1.5t in exchange for goal to work on cutting $2.5t in next Congress) https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20241216/ARA%2012.20.pdf
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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

You and u/AshlandDog are the news now! I'm so happy to walk in this shadow.

  1. Trump's victory song, by Arthur Clough, 1849: https://www.wnd.com/2024/12/a-victory-song-for-trump-nominee-dr-bhattacharya
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SwampRangers 3 points ago +3 / -0

HOORAY! The debt ceiling ("TEMPORARY EXTENSION OF PUBLIC DEBT LIMIT") was apparently not moved from 2025-01 to 2027-01 in that "Section 401 of the Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2023" was not amended, according to the omission of the last paragraph of yesterday's version. Add: The Hill claims spending limit raised $1.5t in exchange for (unenforceable?) comps in next Congress.

The following from page 105 of the old bill was also dropped:

"Activities authorized by part B of title IV of the Social Security Act shall continue through March 31, 2025, in the manner authorized for fiscal year 2024, and out of any money in the Treasury of the United States not otherwise appropriated, there are hereby appropriated such sums as may be necessary for such purpose."

I'll add other noted edits here.

u/The_Knight_of_sunset

In a new section 3401, "ELIMINATING CERTAIN DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE HOSPITAL PAYMENT CUTS", an SS date is changed from 01-01 to 04-01.

New sections starting on p. 109, unformatted:

(4) D AIRY .—14 (A) DAIRY MARGIN COVERAGE .—15 (i) DURATION .—Section 1409 of the16 Agricultural Act of 2014 (7 U.S.C. 9059)17 is amended by striking ‘‘December 31,18 2024’’ and inserting ‘‘December 31,19 2025’’.20 (ii) AVAILABILITY OF PREMIUM DIS -21 COUNT .—With respect to coverage for cal-22 endar year 2025, section 1407(g) of the23 Agricultural Act of 2014 (7 U.S.C.24 9057(g)) shall only apply to a participating25 dairy operation with respect to which the1 premium was reduced in accordance with2 that section (as applied to such partici-3 pating dairy operation pursuant to section4 102(c)(2)(B)(ii) of division B of the Fur-5 ther Continuing Appropriations and Other6 Extensions Act, 2024 (Public Law 118–7 22)) for calendar year 2024.8 (B) D AIRY FORWARD PRICING PROGRAM .—9 Section 1502(e)(2) of the Food, Conservation,10 and Energy Act of 2008 (7 U.S.C. 8772(e)(2))11 is amended by striking ‘‘2027’’ and inserting12 ‘‘2028’’.13

Section 7502 of the Food, Conservation, and Energy11 Act of 2008 (Public Law 110–246; 122 Stat. 2019;12 132 Stat. 4817) is amended to read as follows:13 ‘‘SEC. 7502. GRAZINGLANDS RESEARCH LABORATORY.14 ‘‘Except as otherwise specifically authorized by law15 and notwithstanding any other provision of law, the Fed-16 eral land and facilities at El Reno, Oklahoma, adminis-17 tered by the Secretary (as of the date of enactment of this18 Act) as the Grazinglands Research Laboratory, shall not19 at any time, in whole or in part, be declared to be excess20 or surplus Federal property under chapter 5 of subtitle21 I of title 40, United States Code, or otherwise be conveyed22 or transferred in whole or in part, for the period beginning23 on the date of the enactment of this Act and ending on24 September 30, 2025.’’.25

(3) ENERGY .—Section 9010(b) of the Farm Se-1 curity and Rural Investment Act of 2002 (7 U.S.C.2 8110(b)) is amended in paragraphs (1)(A) and3 (2)(A) by striking ‘‘2024’’ each place it appears and4 inserting ‘‘2025’’.5

Fewer ag programs were excepted from extension (4 instead of 21).

(2) CONSERVATION .—21 (A) MANDATORY FUNDING .—Subsection22 (a) does not apply with respect to mandatory23 funding under the following provisions of law24 for fiscal years 2024 and 2025:25 (i) Section 1240O(b)(3) of the Food1 Security Act of 1985 (16 U.S.C. 3839bb–2 2(b)(3)).3 (ii) Section 1240R(f)(1) of the Food4 Security Act of 1985 (16 U.S.C. 3839bb–5 5(f)(1)).6 (iii) Subparagraphs (A) and (B) of7 section 1241(a)(1) of the Food Security8 Act of 1985 (16 U.S.C. 3841(a)(1)).9 (iv) Section 2408(g)(1) of the Agri-10 culture Improvement Act of 2018 (711 U.S.C. 8351 note).12 (B) L IMITATIONS .—Subsection (a) does13 not apply with respect to limitations under the14 following provisions of law:15 (i) Section 1240G of the Food Secu-16 rity Act of 1985 (16 U.S.C. 3839aa–7).17 (ii) Section 1240L(f) of the Food Se-18 curity Act of 1985 (16 U.S.C. 3839aa–19 24(f)).20 (3) NUTRITION .—Subsection (a) does not apply21 with respect to the mandatory funding in section22 203D(d)(5) of the Emergency Food Assistance Act23 of 1983 (7 U.S.C. 7507(d)(5)).24 (4) RURAL DEVELOPMENT .—Subsection (a)1 does not apply with respect to the mandatory fund-2 ing in section 313B(e)(2) of the Rural Electrifica-3 tion Act of 1936 (7 U.S.C. 940c–2(e)(2)).4 (5) RESEARCH .—Subsection (a) does not apply5 with respect to mandatory funding under the fol-6 lowing provisions of law:7 (A) Section 1446(b)(1) of the National Ag-8 ricultural Research, Extension, and Teaching9 Policy Act of 1977 (7 U.S.C. 3222a(b)(1)).10 (B) Section 1672E(d)(1) of the Food, Ag-11 riculture, Conservation, and Trade Act of 199012 (7 U.S.C. 5925g(d)(1)).13 (C) Section 7601(g)(1)(A) of the Agricul-14 tural Act of 2014 (7 U.S.C. 5939(g)(1)(A)).15 (6) ENERGY .—Subsection (a) does not apply16 with respect to mandatory funding under the fol-17 lowing provisions of law:18 (A) Section 9002(k)(1) of the Farm Secu-19 rity and Rural Investment Act of 2002 (720 U.S.C. 8102(k)(1)).21 (B) Section 9003(g)(1)(A) of the Farm Se-22 curity and Rural Investment Act of 2002 (723 U.S.C. 8103(g)(1)(A)).24 (C) Section 9005(g)(1) of the Farm Secu-1 rity and Rural Investment Act of 2002 (72 U.S.C. 8105(g)(1)).3 (7) HORTICULTURE .—Subsection (a) does not4 apply with respect to mandatory funding under the5 following provisions of law:6 (A) Section 7407(d)(1) of the Farm Secu-7 rity and Rural Investment Act of 2002 (78 U.S.C. 5925c(d)(1)).9 (B) Section 2123(c)(4) of the Organic10 Foods Production Act of 1990 (7 U.S.C.11 6522(c)(4)).12 (C) Section 10606(d)(1)(C) of the Farm13 Security and Rural Investment Act of 2002 (714 U.S.C. 6523(d)(1)(C)).15 (D) Section 10109(c)(1) of the Agriculture16 Improvement Act of 2018 (Public Law 115–17 334).18 (8) MISCELLANEOUS .—Subsection (a) does not19 apply with respect to mandatory funding under the20 following provisions of law:21 (A) Section 209(c) of the Agricultural22 Marketing Act of 1946 (7 U.S.C. 1627a(c)).23 (B) Section 12605(d) of the Agriculture1 Improvement Act of 2018 (7 U.S.C. 76322 note).3

Other changes are possible that didn't majorly influence pagination.

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SwampRangers 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's passed on live.house.gov as of 18:02 EST ....

366-34-1 on roll call 517, it says HR 10545 but is not yet on congress.gov ....

Just adjourned to 2024-12-24 at 6:14, but no bill found ....

Title is "Making further continuing appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2025, and for other purposes" ....

American Relief Act of 2025 explained by Tom Cole (R-OK), "keeps government open", extension to 2025-03-14, "allows Trump ability to interact", has $100b disaster relief including Milton ....

https://scored.co/c/TheDonald/p/19A0y4mgDY/breaking-government-funding-bill/c ....

Draft text. 116 pages. Except I understand that's what failed yesterday and was ineligible for return. So I don't know why that is ....

Apparently final text thanks to u/The_Knight_of_sunset.

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SwampRangers 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bill is chonking up like Tyrannosaurus Debt!

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SwampRangers 17 points ago +17 / -0

What kind of nonessential work do you do? In the public sector I take gigs where I can get them.

Anyway, as your employer, I never guaranteed that I wanted you to keep doing your nonessential task when my representatives conclude there's no plan in which it's in my interests to have you do so. I suppose you can sue me, or you can take up the enervating mantle of private sovereignty alongside me and take responsibility for your own life.

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SwampRangers 19 points ago +19 / -0

Another touchdown for Team Shutdown! The opponents are out of timeouts now! Nail-biting fourth quarter here.

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SwampRangers 4 points ago +5 / -1

Well, as Hegelian dialectics go, this summary is a great improvement on the other one. Ron Paul wouldn't vote for it, because of matters not authorized in the Constitution. How'd we get SS down by 2 billion? 400 million for "hurricane hunters" that work with HAARP, and 700 million for "environmental science" in the same, is a problem, among several.

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SwampRangers 6 points ago +6 / -0

The four horsemen of the American apocalypse are DEBT [oathbreaking], TAXATION [theft], WRETCHEDNESS [licentiousness] and OPPRESSION [abuse]. Ayn Rand described the same as "mooching and looting". These are minions of the bigger ones coming, conquest, war, famine and plague. We have this opportunity to repel them personally every day.

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SwampRangers 0 points ago +1 / -1

If what you say is true you ought to be able to say it coherently and peacefully without resorting to a swarm of links.

Many Bitcoin forks fail even if they have "Bitcoin" in the name. The extraordinary claim that Bitcoin is out of Satoshi's hands now but an upstart startup is actually truer to his vision requires extraordinary evidence, not invocation of Groucho's long-lost brother.

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