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AmateurExpert 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes. It also shows how groups can shift based on what the values and objectives of the group are, who’s in it for the right and wrong reasons, that a mere bloodline is not sufficient for entry to heaven and salvation is up to the individual to work out acceptance therein.

Lots of facets to that verse. Would have been others listed but I got interrupted and forgot!

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AmateurExpert 3 points ago +3 / -0

Or we could start condemning lefttards using presentist arguments!

Have some shifting sand!

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AmateurExpert 2 points ago +2 / -0

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Many verses in the Bible speak of infiltrators who should not be accepted in the group, and talk about “being cut off” from the faithful, and “driving the evildoer from your midst.” Luke 3:8

This really applies to any group - there will always be earnest people, some closer to truth, some farther, some heading the right way, some not, then there will be shills and infiltrators, looking to get in to take the group down or to use it to gain something for themselves.

Thanks for the find, u/NeilS!

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AmateurExpert 1 point ago +1 / -0

Some, if not many, of them are poorly conceived or bizarre.

Some are perfectly sensible, and some provide historical contexts.

It seems like it should be taken on the same authoritative level as any sermon or philosopher or media broadcasts

It is definitely given far too much standing in Judaism.

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AmateurExpert 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is certainly no good motivation with this, the bigger question is if they’re intentionally trying to drive people from salvation, or merely can’t see the truth for not having accepted it.

I’d like to think it’s the latter, but the blindness required in that option is incredible.

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AmateurExpert 3 points ago +3 / -0

With all the crap going on, someone who is ostensibly a Christian felt the need to point out that exclusively Christian hypocrisy is very frustrating right now.

Are there plenty of Christian hypocrites? Sure. Some, or most Christians likely are hypocritical to some degree, and some or even most of them may still be considered among the faithful. Every human alive is being driven by their flesh to do wrong, and it’s a constant war to keep that nature in check.

Now let’s talk about the other people. Are they hypocrites? It’s actually conceivable that fewer of them are hypocrites - because many of them may not even proclaim a moral framework..

Is there anything wrong with greed or envy? I mean, get what you can, right? Murder? He may not have died if he wasn’t such a weakling, Theft? It’s kindof crazy that anyone even thinks they own anything. Leaving bastard children all over the countryside? He’s clearly got a way with women, and just felt it necessary to sow his wild oats some.

What is this fight really about, then? Is it that there are a lot of people out there who just want to gratify their flesh, not hear about why that doesn’t work, and deal with any issues that arise from it when they do, in whatever way they see fit, without ever being told that they’ve done wrong?

Hear no evil. Speak no evil. See no evil.

Then, being condemned in their own mind by the knowledge of their sins, they resent the messengers and seek to discredit them in order to discredit the message, rather than accept grace and seek to bring themselves under control.

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AmateurExpert 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes. I just don’t have a solid base of people to get info from on him.

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AmateurExpert 2 points ago +2 / -0

I tend to think the same at this point.

Not much hard evidence for it, but several notable indicators.

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AmateurExpert 2 points ago +2 / -0

Comments like this are great optical ammunition for the enemy - [they] can frame us as “they’re either idiots or corrupt”. It doesn’t matter that [they] are corrupt, it matters that [they] can point at us. “They don’t care that their people aren’t voting or holding office! It’s just about power!”

It also sounds like she’s already been replaced by someone named “Craig Goldman”, and she was never on our side anyway.

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AmateurExpert 7 points ago +7 / -0

And why is her congressional profile photo from like 20 or 30 years ago?

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AmateurExpert 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’ve taken a much more action and works based approach to faith over the last few years, but it hasn’t been to win salvation or earn it, for I myself am but dirty rags, but at no point is it said that we should not do works or follow the law, but rather that salvation doesn’t come by either thing, but by grace.

Matthew 5:16 - Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Romans 5:20 - Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:

Romans 6:1-2 - 1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

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AmateurExpert 1 point ago +1 / -0

It does matter.

7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.

In both directions. We aught to hearken to God and not require a king. Specific actions and general righteousness are necessary in order to live that way.

God desires us to have him as our king, not an earthly man, that we, ourselves, reign as kings and priests. At one point, there were many, many more kings in Europe than there have been over the last 200 years, for instance.

But then what’s the organizing principle that replaces that system?

I believe that the method of the kingdom is laid out in the OT, and clarified in the NT where they had gone offroad. The constitution draws from those principles, and it is likely that we can improve from there now as well, if we play our cards right.

https://www.theclassroom.com/did-bible-influence-us-constitution-11384841.html

One of my favorites is the establishment of a system of equal weights and measures, where the constitution draws out so many grains of silver as the standard for money.

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AmateurExpert 1 point ago +1 / -0

Didn’t know that about her, thanks for the heads up on it.

Being involved with “channeling” or seeking spiritual mediums isn’t good for credibility.

Not sure why alternative medicine doctors always have to be in new age stuff…

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AmateurExpert 3 points ago +3 / -0

Was the Biden admin worse than Carter? I’ve never heard a single bright word about Carter - until recently, where a couple things got dug up that might have been done in the background.

“Working for peanuts” “Peanut farmer”

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AmateurExpert 7 points ago +7 / -0

Is it possible that Carter was a first attempt at a Biden presidency?

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