As far as your view of "keeping people from God" – I don't exactly agree. I think it was created to do that, but I think if anyone does a serious deep dive into evolution, they can see how silly the entire premise of it is. Nothing about evolution makes sense, can be proven, or backed by any actual science.
Could you elaborate? I don't see any connection between the original statement of yours and the supporting comments.
I agree with your supporting comments, but I fail to see their relevance to evolution being used to keep people from God. It absolutely does. It's why Answers In Genesis even exists.
So you're just okay with being unable to defend your belief in Christ? Really?
I have a hard time believing that your faith in Christ is even genuine, if you're going to behave in such a manner that ignores valid concerns and criticisms. You are acting as a child screaming, "NUH UH I CAN'T HEAR YOU" right now when you repeatedly double down on ignoring my statements and then acting like you're somehow correct.
If you don't know enough to even defend your faith, that should be severely concerning to you from multiple different perspectives.
Except that every prot denomination interprets the “literal” scripture differently. Enough so that there is a new denomination every week.
Except no, it's not US who are interpreting things differently/incorrectly. Scripture does not conflict with scripture. You're the one pulling hat tricks out of nowhere to try to fit things together. Not that you're even that aware of your own doctrine, apparently.
Again, you're incapable of defending your situation. You keep resorting to ignoring my statements, and then asserting that they are false. I've presented God's direct Word on the issues you brought up. You presented silence.
Based on that, why don't you tell me with a straight face which one of us sounds like he's being deceived?
All that you say is derived from false interpretation of translation of scripture 1600 + years after Christ.
I'd love to hear any actual evidence for that. All you've presented is an assertion and total blind trust in a horrendously corrupt institution.
This is the reason protestant denominations constantly degenerate: every person considers themselves to be the ultimate authority on interpretation. This is false, because God would then constantly contradict Himself.
Not a single protestant considers themselves to be an authority on anything - What part of me telling you that I follow God's Word alone haven't you been getting?
Sorry, but Satan quotes the scriptures like you do: distorting and inverting their meaning.You are deceived.
I'm quoting them literally. The only one distorting scripture is yourself.
The Bible was written by Catholics through the Holy Spirit, and declared to be the Word of God by a pope.
Hahahahahaahh.
For starters, we just ignoring that The Old Testament exists in it's entirety now?
Secondly, there's not a single Biblical instance of Peter even visiting Rome - at best you can say he wrote from, "Babylon" once, which is universally used as a sinful place - therefore your Holy City would be a place of sin.
Peter NEVER is declared to have any authority over the other apostles, anywhere in God's word. He never acted as if he had authority over others. Nowhere does scripture say that a bishop from Rome has authority over other Churches. Nowhere was authority granted to apostles passed down to others from scripture.
What scripture DOES tell us is to compare false teachings of churches to come to the actual scriptures - the actual Word of God. His Word alone is our standard, not some corrupt group of humans. The apostles were shown at many times as being fallible, and certainly never infallible.
Nowhere did Peter claim to be the first pope, and nowhere does the rest of scripture support this corrupt idea.
It's again telling that you can't respond to the points I make to you. You choose to ignore the points I mention, or simply create an assertion that they are false with zero evidence. If you actually studied The Bible well enough to respond with evidence, you certainly wouldn't be proclaiming Catholicism. I pray that you truly find Christ some day, and stop trying to add to him. He and He alone is sufficient.
Christ Himself said we need to be baptized.
Yes, it's a commandment to be baptized as a public declaration of your faith. Believers should be baptized if they are following Christ, but it is in no way a requirement of salvation.
Unless you are dying and want to but can not be baptized, you are not going to get into heaven without baptism.
And where do you draw this distinction from? The Bible is incredibly clear on salvation:
Salvation is from faith alone in Christ - that He paid the price of our sin for us, and that we receive His free gift. When you add on ANYTHING else, you are saying that Christ is not enough, that He is not sufficient. That is blatant blasphemy.
John 3:16 - “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.
Ephesians 2:8-9 - For by grace you have been saved through faith; and [a]this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Titus 3:5 - He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we did in righteousness, but in accordance with His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,
Acts 16:31 - They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
Romans 5:8 - But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
2 Corinthians 5:21 - He made Him who knew no sin to be sin in our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
Scripture does not contradict itself, it is God's word.
The physical act of baptism is clearly outlined as the public declaration of one's faith in Christ. The physical act of baptism is not salvation. Christ alone is sufficient. Physical baptism represents the spiritual act of baptism, which is salvation.
You are rejecting the teachings of Christ and the apostles in favor of some horse manure that didn’t even exist as a deception until a millennia and a half after Christ taught the opposite of what you are falsely proclaiming.
The only thing I follow is The Word of God, and not any additional documents such as you do. These documents I follow have explicitly existed since shortly after Jesus's time, and follow His Word and nothing else.
You are projecting your own actions onto me when you follow the cult which is the Catholic "Church."
Think for two seconds about the situation: Do you really think that God would let, "His chosen leader [the pope]" be so blatantly against God himself if this was truly his plan for us to follow? For you to remain in the Catholic Cult requires such a poor understanding of The Bible and God's word that it is truly a mystery how you believe you are competent enough to defend your position.
You’re right! Only Christ can forgive sins. That is why He gave Peter the authority to Forgive and retain sins: “The sins you forgive on earth shall be forgiven in heaven, and the sins you retain on earth shall be retained in heaven.”
That's not even remotely what that verse means. It's talking about how we should forgive others ass Christ forgives us. That doesn't give us permission or authority to absolve someone's sin - only the blood of Christ can do this.
Did Peter and the apostles get it wrong? Did the bible get it wrong?
No. The Catholic Cult did, along with you.
Did the appstles err when they gave that same authority to approved men by the laying on of hands and appointing of bishops, priests, and deacons?
Do you not think that protestant churches have deacons and other appointed members of church leadership?
Did the church really get it wrong even from when Christ walked among them all the way up to Luther 1500 years later?
What could you even possibly be referencing here?
The Bible is very clear that Christ alone is our path to salvation, yet you'd mislead people to think that baptism is required, merited works are required, not to die with mortal sins, that Mary is holy in any capacity, that Mary can receive prayer, purgatory exists and that people can be prayed out of it, and many other completely blasphemous statements.
go to confession and be absolved by Chrust through the authority He gave to the church to forgive and retain sins for all time until He comes again (the gates of hell shall not prevail against His church)
Yeah except Christ never did this. The Church doesn't have permission to do something that only Christ can do. His death and resurrection paid the price for our sin, only He can forgive sins. Nor do we need to go through anyone else to come to Christ, we can go to Him directly.
and the early church got together at least weekly.
Simply meeting weekly doesn't imply communion weekly by any stretch of the imagination.
Communion is true worship
Implying that communion is the only way to worship God is so ridiculous and ignorant of most of The Bible that it's straight blasphemy.
the sacrifice at Calvary was once and for all time and transcends time,
Yes, which is exactly why we don't need a child diddler to be the medium between us and God.
This is what the apostles believed and taught
No, it's not. It's what the Catholic Cult lies about while they ignore the actual teachings of God.
Look you're right that we are to have some body which is a communal Church in our lives at a local level, but:
- It doesn't have to be on Sunday - could be any group devotional time during the week, and
- Nowhere did Christ command us to take communion on a weekly basis. In fact, communion is a very serious event that we are not to take lightly. We must go above and beyond our normal lives to be 100%, "right" with God before taking communion. Doing it weekly is simply not Biblical.
Go ahead and listen to preachers
but it doesn’t count as worship
Uh, the fuck???
I guess this is what I should expect when talking to a Catholic.
What do you mean by that? I'm not familiar with what incident/context that you're referring to.
Did TFS do something political?
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Go ahead and tell me how to do that for online orders/purchases.
Not to fucking mention that the speed at which this object would be moving wouldn't result in it showing up in so many separate frames of this, "video".
Obviously 9/11 wasn't as reported by MSM but it sure as heck wasn't a, "SCUD Missile" either.
It doesn't matter how much research they've done if they're so stupid as to not understand the topic in question.
So many fundamental things in our life wouldn't function whatsoever if the Earth was flat.
That only shows your lack of understanding of basic physics more than it speaks to anything else.
But the real reason they hide flat earth under the firmament is to hide the existence of God.
The Bible supports a spherical Earth, not a flat one. Let's stop with the retard speak.
The inconsistency you have is astounding. Science shows us that covid and the vaccines are lies. Science also shows us that the Earth is (roughly) a sphere.
Flat Earth "science" is entirely based around complete ignorance of actual science from the very fundamental principles. It's a complete non-sequitur.
"Do my job for me."
Who knows eh?
We do. We know that's bullshit for a multitude of reasons, the least of which is that Rapture hasn't occurred yet. The Church is not present at all throughout The Tribulation, but is present before and after.
Anyone who is saying that The Revelation of Jesus Christ can't be understood with a fairly clear meaning is lying to you, or they're too stupid to deserve your attention.
I have seen evidence of both.
You sure as shit haven't seen valid evidence that it's flat. It's such a ridiculously tired argument, only parroted by true idiots.
Let me ask the simple question: Who is to gain if Earth is flat, but is thought to be round?
I see the Book of Revelation pointing to a time when we are set free from the lie. A time when the control that evil has to hide the truth is gone. It will be the Great revealing of the truth.
It will be The Great Awakening.
I was with you until here.
If you're claiming that Q and Revelation are about the same events, then I would love for you to suggest where America is mentioned in Revelation, or how anything from Revelation and the relevant prophecies, and Q match up. The simple fact is that believers who are here today are not present during The Tribulation because of The Rapture. There will be multitudes saved saved during The Tribulation who have never truly heard The Gospel before, but existing believers won't be around, save for the 144,000 + 2 witnesses (likely Moses and Elijah).
Again, I'd be very interesting in hearing about how you think Revelation/End Times Prophecy and Q match up. Or, please feel free to tell me if you were just using the term Great Awakening in a different manner than what I'm interpreting.
You're arguing past yourself and misrepresenting your own position. Revelation is absolutely taken literally, and that doesn't take away from the symbolism that is present in it. Literal does not mean stupid, it means literal. As I said above, there is context which was used for various purposes, one of which being to prevent the government of the time from discarding the messages and preventing it's spread.
Nowhere did I say that symbolism isn't used in The Bible, or that some elements of Revelations aren't symbolic, but rather that the book as a whole isn't just some fantasy representing total mystery, confusion, and drama, which is what people mean when they say that Revelation is a book of symbolism. The Revelation of Jesus Christ is absolutely a book which can be deciphered and understood if one tries. No other book of The Bible comes with an explicit promise of blessing for it's study.
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I have more, but I'll stop here for now. Believing in some pre/post Tribulation "Rapture" is false teaching. It implies that if you are somehow "left behind" you'll get a "second chance". That is simply not true. When the Sanctuary is cleansed and the final moment arrives, you'll either be on one side or the other... no second chances.)
You're looking at this from entirely the wrong perspective. You have been fed many dangerous lies. Those who reject Christ before rapture (NOT THE SECOND COMING) had knowledge and rejected anyways - they will not have a second chance, but will be given a great delusion during The Tribulation from God:
2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 - that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not accept the love of the truth so as to be saved. 11 For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,
We are in the period of Grace, where we can always turn to God for salvation, but at the beginning of The Tribulation we are no longer in that period, and those who have rejected Him in this period lose their opportunity to do so in the next. Those who have not heard of Christ at all and enter into The Tribulation will have the opportunity to be saved, and will receive witness from the 144,000 from the 12 tribes of Israel, along with the two witnesses (very likely Elijah and Moses), not to mention the resources that Christians leave behind, such as Bibles, written notes, digital outreach, etc.
Your assertions are in no way supported by The Bible, and follow an incredibly dangerous understanding of The Bible. You should rebuke whoever it is who is teaching you such lies, and turn towards God's Word.
Based on your own scripture you posted above, the dead are "fallen asleep" - they are NOT in Heaven... looking down (in disgust I might add) at this sinful world. Just like Jesus said about Lazurus... he was "sleeping" even though he was dead.
You're confusing terms here hard. "Dead" vs "sleeping" refers to a spiritual death, not a physical one within this context. To be spiritually dead means to be lost and separated from God, to be damned to spend eternity in The Lake of Fire. Jesus talked about Hell and eternal damnation twice as often as he spoke of Heaven - and this term is abundantly clear in the difference.
Speaking of Lazarus and others who died before Christ - they were in a place called Paradise, which was inside/beside Hades - Christ went to speak to various people in Paradise as well as in the rest of Hades immediately following His death. This is very well established throughout the gospels.
There is NO everlasting burning hell either. Everyone who has died (except a couple of people) is "asleep" in their graves, not in Heaven or Hell. (aka - there is no eternal life w/o Jesus' blood/grace... that includes Hell)
This is blatant blasphemy.
We are all sinners: Romans 3:23 - for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
The punishment for sin is spiritual death: Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
God made a way for the penalty of our sin to be payed for us, since we could never pay it ourselves and not be damned for eternity: John 3:16 - For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.
Jesus's death on the cross on our behalf is the only way to heaven. He lived the perfect life that we never could, and died on our behalf so that we may be free of our punishment so long as we accept the free gift he has given us and trust in Him: John 14:6 - Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me.
Heaven will be lacking of all sin, therefore those who are not redeemed by the blood of Christ will not be present: Revelation 21:4 - and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.
Nothing impure will enter Heaven, only those who are saved (name written in Lamb's Book of Life) shall ever come into heaven: Revelation 21:27 - and nothing unclean, and no one who practices abomination and lying, shall ever come into it, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.
The second death (spiritual death as opposed to physical death) is very clearly referring to sinners exclusively: Revelation 21:8 - But for the cowardly, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and sexually immoral persons, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Outside of Heaven are sinners: Revelation 22:15 - Outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral persons, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.
Only those who are saved enter Heaven: Matthew 25:34 - “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
Lake of Fire is eternal: Matthew 25:41 - Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, you accursed people, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;
Eternal life for believers, eternal death for unbelievers: Matthew 25:46 - These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Eternal damnation: 2 Thessalonians 1:8–9 - 8 in flaming fire, dealing out retribution to those who do not know God, and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These people will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
Eternal damnation described as a Lake of Fire: Luke 16:24 - 24 And he cried out and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me and send Lazarus, so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.’
Revelation 20:14–15 - 14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Eternal damnation described as an outer darkness, being separated from God for eternity: Matthew 8:12 - but the sons of the kingdom will be thrown out into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
Clearly eternal: Jude 13 - wild waves of the sea, churning up their own shameful deeds like dirty foam; wandering stars, for whom the gloom of darkness has been reserved forever.
Matthew 25:46 - These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
Whoever you are listening to who says that Hell/Lake of Fire is not eternal is speaking straight blasphemy to you, and you should rebuke them, and never allow yourself to be corrupted by them again.
There will be a Harvest of those asleep and alive. In fact, there will be TWO resurrections from the graves, one for the Righteous, who will be caught up in the clouds with Jesus upon his glorious return - changed bodies (old bodies in graves -> new bodies), and will be with Him forever and ever.
Rapture does not occur at Jesus's Second Coming, which is at the end of the 7 year Tribulation period, but rather when Jesus meets us (a Greek word as if to meet a guest at the front door of the house, and to take the guests to the rest of the house - aka meeting us in the clouds and taking us to his kingdom) it will be at the beginning of The Tribulation.
The other resurrection will be for the wicked (unsaved) also from their graves.
They are resurrected so much as only so that they are dealt with at The Great White Throne judgement. They are not resurrected into new life in Heaven - ALL present at The Great White Throne judgement are condemned to eternal damnation in the Lake of Fire.
Revelation 20:11-15 : 11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled, and no place was found for them. 12 And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them; and they were judged, each one of them according to their deeds. 14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
For those alive at the time of His return, they will bypass the FIRST DEATH and will be taken directly - during His return... not before, not after...during. I think that many people believe this to be the "Rapture", but the false teachings seep in to trick and seduce believers.
You are the only one spreading false teachings here. Tell me, where is The Church mentioned during the events of Tribulation? Why is it that we are not present at all during the 7 year Tribulation period, yet you claim that we are not raptured until post trib? Moreover, you were just claiming in your last comment that there was no such thing as, "rapture" at all - what's changed your mind?
Do you not understand the entire purpose of Tribulation? It is God's punishment of The World for it's sin in rejecting Him. Why would believers be present and punished when God's wrath is unleashed? That is not to say that none will be saved during The Tribulation (this will be likely the greatest period of evangelism and salvation of all time), but rather that believers prior to The Tribulation are spared from God's Wrath, as we are not His intended targets.
1 Thessalonians 5:9 - For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ
1 Thessalonians 1:9–10 - 9 For they themselves report about us as to the kind of reception we had with you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve a living and true God, 10 and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is, Jesus who rescues us from the wrath to come.
Revelation 3:10 - Because you have kept My word of perseverance, I also will keep you from the hour of the testing, that hour which is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who live on the earth.
God explicitly promised to keep us from the hour of testing - we are not present on Earth during Tribulation, period. In actuality, the lack of Christians on Earth is in itself another example of God pouring out his wrath - the only ones left are not led by God and have no qualms with wickedness.
The word Church is used in Revelation 1-3, and doesn't show up again until Revelation 22 - because we are NOT present on Earth at all.
Jesus says he will come to snatch us up - or as we call it in English, The Rapture - "like a thief in the night" - This clearly couldn't take place during the Tribulation as we would be able to predict his coming by the time period:
Matthew 24:42-44 - 42 “Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. 43 But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into. 44 For this reason you must be ready as well; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.
Revelation 16:15 - (“Behold, I am coming like a thief. Blessed is the one who stays awake and keeps his clothes, so that he will not walk about naked and people will not see his shame.”)
After the judgment there is a SECOND DEATH (death is not life everlasting even in hell) where the wicked will be cast into the lake of fire... where the SMOKE of their torment will RISE forever and ever(the Bible doesn't say they will be tortured for ever and ever. If it did, I would throw it in the trash because that's not a God I want to know or worship.)
- For smoke to exist forever, there must be a fire to supply it
- Guess you want to go to The Lake of Fire then, because God's righteous judgement of our sin is just, and eternal as I've clearly laid out above.
They will be CONSUMED by the fire and brimstone (Hell) and will cease to exist. (I believe that this ceasing to exist will actually be so complete that it will be as if they NEVER existed at all. That's why those who do gain eternal life will live in love and peace w/o sorrow (remembrance of those they loved who didn't make it.) That part is logical thinking on my part, but it makes sense once you discard the false teachings of "the Church").
Show me one verse that says that the person ceases to exist. You won't. Stop with your blasphemy.
I have more, but I'll stop here for now. Believing in some pre/post Tribulation "Rapture" is false teaching. It implies that if you are somehow "left behind" you'll get a "second chance". That is simply not true. When the Sanctuary is cleansed and the final moment arrives, you'll either be on one side or the other... no second chances.)
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I've completed many different studies of Revelations. The 7 year period of The Tribulation leads to Christ's second coming, then a 1,000 year reign with a new Earth and new Jerusalem, at which point Earth is done away with.
Many things in Revelations are symbolic for the purposes of avoiding governmental intervention, but the symbolism is not so far stretched as to take away from the meaning of, "Revelation." The book is written from the perspective of a man who was at a minimum seeing things 2,000 years ahead of his time, and as such some, "symbolism" isn't even symbolism as much as it his his best ability to describe what he saw. The book is absolutely literal in the sense that the events happen as they are told, and are in no possible way written merely as metaphors or similar BS.
It is very clearly, "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" and the conclusion of Earth.
You sure about that?
"Sola fide:"
Galatians 2:16 - nevertheless, knowing that a person is not justified by works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the Law; since by works of the Law no flesh will be justified.
Ephesians 2:8–9 - 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and [a]this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Romans 4:4–5 - 4 Now to the one who works, the wages are not credited as a favor, but as what is due. 5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,
2 Corinthians 5:21 - He made Him who knew no sin to be sin in our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.
Romans 5:8 - But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:19 - For as through the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the One the many will be made righteous.
Romans 10:9 - that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
Acts 16:31 - They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
John 3:16 - “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.
Seems pretty clear to me that the requirements for salvation are laid out as faith in Christ. Only our faith in Christ justifies us. Simply because the term, "sola fide" doesn't show up in The Bible doesn't mean it isn't taught all throughout the New Testament.
"sola scriptura:"
Acts 17:11 - Now these people were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with great eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so.
1 Corinthians 4:6 - Now these things, brothers and sisters, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos on your account, so that in us you may learn not to exceed what is written, so that no one of you will become arrogant in behalf of one against the other.
Mark 7:6–9 - But He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy about you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips, But their heart is far away from Me. 7 And in vain do they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ 8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.” 9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.
Galatians 1:6-9 - 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.
Seems again pretty clear that God's Word is His word, and we are not to be led spiritually by anything else. That doesn't mean churches can't have traditions or events outside of The Bible, but it does mean that they cannot teach it as scripturally based. Simply because the term, "sola scriptura" doesn't show up in The Bible doesn't mean it isn't taught all throughout the New Testament.
You know another term that isn't found in The Bible? It's, "The Bible." Yet the principles behind it are overwhelmingly present.
No, he doesn't. He believes in God, he recognizes His existence, he does NOT have faith in Christ.
Sure, doesn't mean his faith is in Christ, nor that Satan/Lucifer, or any of the other fallen angels are even redeemable such as we humans are. It's a non-sequitur.
...Do you hear yourself? Have you been paying any attention to this conversation whatsoever or do you just enjoy lying to yourself? Because surely you can't accuse me of being the one who is refusing to listen to God's Word. This is your FIRST attempt at even presenting anything more than an assertion. I've laid out plenty of Biblical truths for you, which you have promptly ignored. I'm not the one who isn't listening or trying to have a conversation.
And regardless, I'm showing you directly where my thoughts come from - straight out of God's Word. What you call heresy is The Bible, explicitly. That tells me everything I need to know about your view of things.
Sure, you're trying to reference James 2 here. Do you not remember the parts where I said that scripture adds to scripture, and will never be against itself? James is referring to the fact that if one is genuine with their faith, that they will be changed. It doesn't mean someone will be perfect, and it sure as heck doesn't mean that their works provide their faith. It means that works is a product of true faith. The faith itself is in no way redeeming of anything.
Why don't you read the context for James 2? You're only quoting a portion of James 2:24, but look at the surrounding verses so you can clearly see the context:
James 2:14-26 - Faith and Works 14 What use is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone says he has faith, but he has no works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? 17 In the same way, faith also, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.
18 But someone may well say, “You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” 19 You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. 20 But are you willing to acknowledge, you foolish person, that faith without works is useless? 21 Was our father Abraham not justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected; 23 and the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “And Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,” and he was called a friend of God. 24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 In the same way, was Rahab the prostitute not justified by works also when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? 26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.
Clearly, James is saying that you can know someone's genuine nature by their works. If someone has faith, there will be works shown in due time. You can tell who is righteous and who isn't by who has fruit of their faith.
Matthew 7:16 - You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
Matthew 3:8 - Bear fruit in keeping with repentance.
No idea what you're trying to even say here, try again with a readable sentence please.
What a moot argument. Faith and repentance go hand in hand. Repentance is a part of placing your faith in Christ - Without a repentance you wouldn't be turning to Christ in the first place.
John 6:44 - No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.
Acts 5:31 - God exalted him at his right hand as Leader and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins.
Acts 11:18 - When they heard these things they fell silent. And they glorified God, saying, “Then to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life.”
2 Peter 3:9 - The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
Romans 2:4 - Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance?
Matthew 3:8 - Bear fruit in keeping with repentance.
Repentance is a part of faith in Christ. Repentance is the recognition that we are doing wrong, and there's no situation in which we seek Christ without recognizing this fact. That doesn't mean it's our action that makes us worthy of Christ's free gift of salvation. His blood is sufficient, and enough.