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cathole953 1 point ago +1 / -0

I put a link to the memo at the bottom of my post. But the problem is it looks nothing like a typical memo. It's missing every basic criteria for an actual DOJ memo. Which is part of what makes so little sense about all of this.

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cathole953 1 point ago +1 / -0

Technically the File name is Final Draft E if you download it. But yeah, that was my point that they're calling it a memo on the actual link. Which is part of why none of this makes sense. I don't know more than anyone else, but it doesn't make sense. Nothing about this has been consistent with any other example, and that's why there's, to me at least, something very shady and odd going on behind the scenes that none of us know about.

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cathole953 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm not the most well informed on the topic so I'll default to you on the link thing, however I DID feed it multiple memos beforehand and simply asked it how it compares and if it looks real or fake. You only have so many characters you're allowed to use for a post so I'm not about to copy and past my entire conversation. Just the relevant points.

Besides, the basic logic still stands either way. Nothing that would normally be there for a real memo is there. They could totally replace it with a memo that has all of the missing stuff tonight or tomorrow and this post will then become irrelevant for the most part. But the point will still stand, WHY was a draft memo uploaded in official capacity? If it stays that way, it's bizarre and unheard of. If they later fix it, then it's still weird that they didn't take down the draft when it got leaked and just put up the real memo later.

You're arguing semantics at this point. All I'm trying to convey is that this is all bizarre and none of it is consistent or makes sense. Ergo, something odd is happening in the background that, realistically, none of us know about.

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cathole953 2 points ago +2 / -0

I didn't type anything, I downloaded the PDF file and uploaded it for analysis. That's how the links are typed out in the document that I downloaded. Which apparently is another factor of why this is weird, if the links are messed up in the supposed memo.

And I'm not saying this IS what's happening, but my personal theory is that this is some internal strife with a rogue element trying to cause discourse and division. It's not like this hasn't happened before with rogue federal agents going against the Trump agenda, despite their literal bosses ordering them to do otherwise.

By all means, feel free to explain all the inconsistencies with this memo compared to every other official memo ever put out. I'm not arguing for any one specific explanation since, while I have my own theories like I said, but I don't know any more than anyone else.

I'm just pointing out this is all EXTREMELY inconsistent and doesn't pass ANY sniff test you put it up to.

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cathole953 37 points ago +40 / -3

I have a different take on this I've only ever mentioned a few times. Usually I get crapped on for it, but I suppose I'll share again.

The pedo-cannibal stuff WILL be revealed and it WILL be what unites the common man.

I personally believe what Q was referring to here with the stuff they don't want to reveal to the general public isn't that they were molesting and eating children. What could be worse you ask? Simple. Human experimentation.

And I don't mean simple things like eugenics. I'm talking like, animal-human hybrids, generations of "people" that are so far gone from inbreeding and genetic manipulation that they're technically not even human anymore.

I've long held a theory that a lot of "paranormal" and "supernatural" phenomenon that people experience are actually escaped cabal experiments. Things like bigfoot, dogman, wendigo, skinwalkers, "aliens", etc. aren't actually supernatural creatures. They're escaped experiments that got out of a DUMB somehow and made their way to the surface.

It's bad enough thinking of some inbred animal-human hybrid abomination, but imagine what else they could be doing? Whether you want to admit it or not, there's a spiritual aspect to all of this. I tend to lean into that a bit more than others, which leads to my ultimate theory I've only mentioned one other time in my entire time on this site.

I think they've summoned a literal demon at some point, and are using it as "material" to create abominable human-demon hybrids. Imagine what that would do to the psyche of the general man? Like, you can find first hand recountings of experiences from exorcists of what its like to face a demon during a posession. They all typically describe it as being unearthly and the most vile thing they've ever encountered. To the point that they still have some form of PTSD from the encounters even years after. Only the most hardened exorcists typically don't have this problem, and that's only because of God's providence towards them.

So imagine an unknown number of these lovcraftian beings just existing down there, trapped in a cycle of constant pedophilic incest and cannibalism. The general public wouldn't be able to handle that kind of information.

People won't WANT to, but they can handle the normal pedo-cannibal stuff. But if you start having to live in fear of literal demonic abominations just coming out of the earth, that's a different story entirely.

I know this'll probably get crapped on again, but it's my two cents on the topic. I don't think it was directly Q related, BUT there was an old thread on the KUNs somewhere about the payseurs (the head of the pyramid of evil), basically being literal vampires that use some super adrenochrome to extend their lifespan while giving out the diluted lesser types to their pawns. So I think there's at least SOME viability to my theory.

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cathole953 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yeah, this is easily disproven as bull crap. I've ranted on here plenty enough about how racial statistics are bullcrap and manipulated to make it look like white populations are decreasing when they're really not. (The whole "white hispanic" and latino thing is nothing more than an invention of the governement to try and make it seem like white people are decreasing in proportion of the population. Roughly 70% of "latinos" self identify as white, because they ARE white as descendants of spaniards and were counted as white on ever census until the 60s when they invented this bullcrap. and the "Two or more races" category exist soley to prevent people from being labeled as white if they have ANY ancestry that could be considered non white)

But even beyond that, with all the recent revelations on how death statistics are tallied (blacks and other non whites being labeled as white so as to artificially inflate white deaths and deflate non white deaths from criminal acts and for demoralization) this is probably even worse than what we generally think of. Basically you can take 70% of the "latino" seciont and roughly 50-60% of the "two or more" category and add them to the white category and even that still wouldn't be accurate given that a lot of "deaths" among the crime ridden black, "hispanic" and other "non white" populations are being intentionally labeled as white to drive down crime statistics, and even that wouldn't be accurate.

TL;DR: It's all a load of crap and they only push this stuff to demoralize people

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cathole953 3 points ago +3 / -0

I was actually thinking about this earlier, NYC has something like over a million jews. Its literally the largest concentration of jews outside of israel and the largest jewish metro outside of tel aviv. I can't imagine running an antisemetic jihadist as your candidate will work out well for the left in this specific case. Jews typically overwhelmingly vote democrat, but I'd imagine that would more likely than not shift in this election and probably cause some form of upset when one eighth of your voting population suddenly swaps to the other party. Because you're not just losing votes, the other side would be GAINING votes, that's like a 25 point swing

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cathole953 2 points ago +2 / -0

You know I keep seeing the NYC being 40% foreign born thing, and it amazes me that no one here does any research anymore. Since 1908 NYC has hovered between 30-40-ish percent foreign born. It's because its literally THE city for immigrants. The highest it ever got I believe was 41% in the 80s. It goes up and then goes down over the course of decades because of a variety of factors.

The 40% number is a meaningless dog whistle and a lot of people are falling for it. The ACTUAL concern is the literal jihadist being chosen for any kind of office. But like you said, I feel its a white hat thing.

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cathole953 1 point ago +1 / -0

IQ's tests are worthless anyway. Most of them just test for either random knowledge or the ability to complete a specific set of tasks in a logical and reasonable manner. Beyond that there's dozens of different IQ tests that measure different things.

They're basically useless for anything other that testing for mental disabilities. Which serves to prove OP's point that all the illegals drag down the American average on border states. Now having said that, I also call bullcrap that Minnesota for example has some of the highest IQs in the country. To me this is just another bullcrap article pushing a lie to demoralize people.

But to be honest, the article is fundamentally wrong, because like I said, there's dozens of different IQ tests that test for different things. What was their methodology? Was it one specific test in proportionately equal units across every state? Was a random set of tests for each state?

The methodology for things like this are usually so screwed up that whatever conclusions they come to are almost certainly inaccurate and wrong

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cathole953 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm probably in the minority here, but I'll throw in my two cents. For the vast majority of drugs (in terms of volume not value) the middlemen often are the ones who make most of the money. Generic drugs make up the overwhelming majority of volume, and they typically don't go the sales rep route, instead they just bulk sale to wholesalers or hire brokers to find someone to buy their stock for a percentage of the total sales.

As far as I'm aware, the former is typically the more common process with generics. Now don't get me wrong, the markup on even generics is amazingly high (typically a few hundred to a few thousand percent), so its not like they're starving for money even with the middlemen added into the process.

But the fact of the matter is there ARE middlemen in the pharmaceutical industry. Now then, having played devil's advocate, screw everyone on this specific list, because nothing that I said applies to them. "branded pharma" companies are like scum of the earth. For 20 years after a drug is finally patented they essentially have a monopoly on it and can do whatever they want, so they have a financial interest to milk those cows while they can, because the moment that 20 year period is up it gets turned over to the generic companies, which eliminates most of these problems because even WITH the middle men, everything is STILL infinitely cheaper.

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cathole953 2 points ago +2 / -0

For the record, I'm more referring to financial projects. Think like 10 year revenue projections for a product, while accounting for multiple factors like downturns competition, etc. etc. Things that normally have a margin of error and you'd redo a normal, high and low projection anyway. I have no idea about engineering, but as far as my purposes, as long as you give it the right information it's pretty accurate within the acceptable margin of error.

Took some trial and error (which is where the tool part comes in, since you can't just blindly trust it), since at first it would give me crazy financials like 700% ROI on something simple like ROI projections for a restaurant, but after refining my "verbiage formula" I'll call it and figuring out how to upload statistical info and make it cite what its using that I don't give it myself, It's an excellent tool.

Like I said, its a tool. No different from google searching or a Texas Instruments Calculator. Just more advanced. If you know how to use it and refine it, it works excellent for its purpose. If you just blindly trust it then you get REALLY stupid responses.

For example, there was a semi viral video a while back of some black woman asking ChatGPT what would happen if all the black people left to africa as far as the economy goes and it was ridiculous crap like 7 trillion dollars in financial activity would shift from the US to Africa, and crap like that. Didn't account for any extraneous factors or broader geopolitical and economic factors either.

I stand by what I said. It's a good tool, but like any tool, if you're dumb and just blindly trust it, then you'll obviously have problems. For anything important you'd always double check it. I'll often ask it for general information (with citations) and then build up the information gathering myself from there while confirming it in a different tab, and then once I've found all the information I need, just frontload the question in a new chat (since chat degradation is a thing), and refine the data with back and forths until I'm satisfied that its within an acceptable margin of error that logically makes sense, and then go and confirm it myself

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cathole953 4 points ago +4 / -0

Surprise surprise if you have no common sense and are naturally dumber AI doesn't magically make you smarter. Apparently the opposite is true. I've been saying for a while it a good tool. That's it. It's not gonna write anything for you in some meaningful way, nor is it always correct. But using it to look up information on a given topic and summarize it is an EXCELELNT way to get a starting point on any given topic (just double check its all true and don't be afraid to push back if something just doesn't sound right, it's not impossible that it occasionally get something wrong, I've had it happen before and when I pushed back it DID correct itself and redo it with the correct information).

It's also an excellent calculator. That's my main use for it. Instead of having to type out dozens of formulas into an excel spreadsheet and fill it out, or have a dozen line of math formulas in a scientific/graphing calculator, you can just give the scenario, the starting numbers, and any other relevant information and let it work it all out for you. Again, its still good to double check because it has been known to get something wrong because of how you worded it on occasion, but as a calculator, it's top tier and simplifies advanced and long winded math that no one wants to actually sit down and do. That's what I do, mainly for future projections and financial feasibility of various projects. Saves me SO much time having to search public databases for valuation and doing projections for X amount of years, etc.

If you tell it to cite sources you can easily double check to make sure what its saying is correct and correct any errors it may have mad. You can also make sure its using up to date information as a reference and not something from 20 years ago, etc. etc.

Overall, it's a tool. It's literally just the world's fanciest calculator/search engine combo that you can talk to for therapy (which apparently people do). That's it.

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cathole953 1 point ago +1 / -0

While I don't disagree with the sentiment of NOT bulldoznig wildlands for walmarts, everything else you said is pretty much wrong. We're NOT experiencing a population decline. Our population IS growing by most metrics. Both through immigration and through birth rates.

The birth rate thing is a giant lie that's manipulated by statistical oddities. For example, for decades the western world (including the US) has done EVERYTHING we could to lower and eliminate teenage birth rates. And we've largely been successful. Teenage birthrates are at a historical low to the point they're a rounding error in the grand scheme of things at this point. But despite this teenagers (and in some places girls as young as 10-12) are counted in birth rate statistics. In the US specifically they make up roughly 20-30% of the "birthing age female population).

So you have a fifth to nearly a third of the statistic group, actively being manipulated by outside forces to NOT do the thing you're testing. That obviously throws off final stats greatly. If you throw out that group and account for only "acceptable birthing age" the US birth rate is like 2.0-2.1, and some years 2.2 or above. Combine that with net immigration (even just limited legal immigration which most people are alright with), and we still have a healthy growing population.

PERSONALLY, I do agree though that we need to spend less time and money on developing new ghettos and slums (let's be honest, that's all section 8 is), and more time and money on fixing up the dilapidated parts of our existing cities and revitalizing our own small towns. Though realistically I don't think any of this is really going to be a problem. Post cabal, when the economy is infinitely better and there's a massive boom in production jobs, things like small town and ghetto revitalization will happen naturally and eliminate the need for stuff like this.

The only REAL use for this kind of thing in my opinion is to open up and privatize the massive amounts of farm and ranch land out west to farmers and ranchers. I mean serious, half the state is owned by the feds in Nevada, New Mexico, and Arizona. Most of the Prime land with good water is fed land which forces farmers and ranchers to fight for leases with good water. I'd be open to something like that.

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cathole953 10 points ago +10 / -0

Ah yes, because Trump is known to convey his plans and attacks ahead of time. Right, totally makes sense.

Look I don't know what's gonna happen anymore than anyone else does, but that's the point. Anyone claiming to know ANYTHING at the moment is lying through their teeth.

Only an absolute idiot would telegraph their attacks to the world at large by announcing what they're gonna do ahead of time. Remember when we all just woke up one morning and al baghdadi was just dead? Because Trump decided to kill him in the middle of the night without telling anyone?

Crap like this where every move is telegraphed openly doesn't fit Trump's MO so no one should take it seriously.

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cathole953 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm just going to stop arguing since you've obviously made up your mind on what's what and no amount of logic or facts will change it.

But you're just so wrong on everything at this point. The article you're talking about was a food processing plant, not a farm. Two separate things and food processing is much easier to replace illegals in than actual farms.

Second of all, I don't overrate automation. The overwhelming majority of farms are automated at this point. Any large farm has a single driver that controls entire fleets of machinery from the "lead machine" which drive themselves in patterns set by the lead machine. Likewise even that is being phased out to the point that some farms don't even have drivers and instead use what amounts to converted "tractor drones" that all drive themselves while a single person oversees it from an office on the farm. The only areas of plant agriculture (because livestock is an entirely separate conversation) that aren't fully automated or near fully automated on any decent sized farm at this point are tree fruit and specific berries that can bruise easily and need to be handled delicately.

And even that is currently being automated increasingly as technology advances and prices come down for the tech. This isn't some weird "AI runs everything for the humans" fantasy. This is just like every other industry that's been automated. You're going from dozens of employees, to 3 or 4 good well trained and well paid employees that oversee a fleet of automated machines to make sure they correct any machine errors and oversee and conduct maintenance, repair, etc.

For all intents and purposes, it's not that different than how vehicle assembly lines were automated and went from 50 people assembling a car piece by piece, to 5 people overseeing the assembly arms and correcting mistakes/doing maintenance and repair.

Like I said, within the next decade, most farms with any kind of scale (basically everything but the small players with sub 100 acres) are going to be fully or near fully automated. If they don't then they won't be able to keep up with everyone else and they'll go bankrupt.

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cathole953 -1 points ago +2 / -3

I was referring more to the Russians and literally burning and salting everything in their retreat from the Nazi's, thus rending vast swathes of land unusable for years to come.

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cathole953 1 point ago +5 / -4

See I'd normally agree, but we're talking about one of the cabal capitals. These people are sick, so I wouldn't be surprised.

Also, that's not really true. The fact that scorched earth tactics exist as a concept disproves your "all of human history" argument. There're numerous examples of nations destroying themselves to either prevent their enemies from taking them over, or take them down with them.

But logically speaking, it probably IS what you're saying about world leaders (not just Trump) evacuating to prevent embassy people from being hit in the crossfire and whatnot.

However we know this protocol exists, so its not exactly fear porn. It's a legitimate risk, hence the possibility of this being the scare event Q talked about

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cathole953 2 points ago +2 / -0

Then obviously you don't understand basic economics. It's a combination of higher wages (which we could easily absorb) and market shock. If you just took EVERY illegal farm worker out of the country at once (or over a short period of time), there literally wouldn't be enough time in a lot of cases to harvest the crops. Farmers would have to fight for every single remaining farm hand and obviously some are gonna get stiffed badly, thus not be able to harvest, and therefor not only are they up the creek financially, but that's less food physically in the supply chain. This induces the law of scarcity, which means that overnight, you see $100 loaves of bread and other ridiculous crap like that.

What you're describing is like temporary blips that disrupt supply chains. If no one can harvest anything in any reasonable amount, it's not a disruption, its a breakdown of the entire chain which leads to hyperinflation overnight.

It's not the type of thing that would cripple the entire economy, its the type of thing that would cripple food prices specifically. And when food is too expensive, everything else breaks down.

But like I said, this is all a short term problem at this point, whether everyone wants to admit it or not. Farm full automation is likely going to be the norm within the decade, so these seasonal workers don't have many years left. Hence why it makes more sense to focus on child molesters, drug lords, etc.

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cathole953 2 points ago +5 / -3

Listen, it's not like its impossible, but it's also not easy, nor is it is feasible in a short period of time. The truth of the matter is this. We probably COULD get rid of them all at once without much effect. The problem is that, that solution would require producers and corporations to absorb the extra cost for hiring Americans. Which we all know they'd never do because none of them can see off the tip of their nose. So it would almost certainly lead to hyperinflation in grocery stores. If you do it slower and over a longer period of time, then it won't be as bad, nor would it inflate as much. Especially since we're finally entering the age of full agriculture and hospitality automation. What used to take dozens of people, now can be done by 1-3 people overseeing a bunch of robots and physically correcting problems when they arise.

This is a problem that will die off on its own soon enough without forcing it to happen via deportation. So logically it makes more sense to focus on violent illegals (rapists, drug dealers, traffickers, child molesters, etc.) than to go after farm hands and room service maids.

Notice that construction companies weren't included, wanna know WHY? Because they aren't in the process of being replaced because you can't really replace them. Hence they'll have to be deported either way, and their jobs will go to Americans. Sure prices will go up short term, but in the long term they'll level off and possibly even drop post cabal.

It's all about the big picture and focusing on where ICE would be most effective at achieving our goals. If I had to pick between 10 child molesters or a hundred bean pickers, the bean pickers get a temporary pass.

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cathole953 1 point ago +1 / -0

Personally I don't care or see what the big deal is. More competition is always good in any given industry. Besides, Trump's a businessman, and his kids are businessmen. Saying "optics are bad" is a retarded take. What does everyone just expect them to never do anything new to make money ever again for as long as the Trump family line exists? I personally probably won't switch unless it has amazing service after a while of being in existence (I don't like being a beta tester for new things and I like my current carrier), but who knows, could be a big new thing. Verizon and AT&T both suck, really all the big carriers suck, so everyone's always looking for something "different". The Iphone rip off is kind of meh, but again, more competition is always better. I'd imagine they'll probably mainly make money off of the carrier side of things and then gradually develop and release better phones if they decide to lean into the actual phone route. A new samsung/Iphone competitor would be nice, but I can understand it not really being that good as a literal first iteration.

Either way, I don't see what the big deal is. It's just the Trump org (which Trump doesn't even really run these days given he's busy being president) doing something new.

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cathole953 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've made my thoughts on faggots known many times on here. They're disgusting abominations and I truly believe it's either a legitimate mental illness or a result of parasite infection. There's massive evidence of both. Heck there's even cases of faggots being cured via a parasite detox and suddenly they're straight and normal.

I'm not stupid. There ARE some fags that're "OK" as far as being a decent person goes, but you'd have to be stupid to not realize that the overwhelming majority of faggots are hypersexual pedophilic sub-humans with degenerate actions and personalities that're a net negative on society as a whole.

Faggotry of any form should never be accepted, much less allowed to the point where crap like this happens. Their brains are literally chemically different from normal people. I can't remember the exact statistic but it goes something like this. A normal person MIGHT have 4-5 partners in their entire life. (I say normal as in average joe. Obviously some people have more and some have less). Fags tens to have an average number of partners in the hundreds. Why? Because their brain chemistry is different and they're hardwired to be more degenerate and hypersexual.

It's just like a porn addiction. You're constantly chasing that next "sexual high" from something "sexier" or more "taboo" that makes you feel that same high. It almost always leads to some abominable shit like pedophilia, zoophilia, date rape, etc.

Faggots are a net negative, and its a constant that's always proven in a historical context throughout history. Look at weimar germany, pre Christian Rome and pre collapse Rome, Ancient japan, etc. History speaks for itself.

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cathole953 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is one of many reasons why I'm not that worried about AI. AI is typically like every other computer program. It's either decent at a lot of things, or REALLY good at one thing. ChatGPT and most other AI bots typically fall into the former category. They excel at doing advanced math, and scrubbing the internet for generic information on any given topic, but that's it.

They're a good tool for math and a good search engine replacement, but you always need to double check what they say. They're USUALLY true if you start a brand new conversation and front load all the information to them, but the longer you go on in any given conversation (usually about a 100 messages in my experience) they start getting things wrong because they stop using logic and start "self referencing" which causes a negative feedback loop where it start leaving out information or gets things wrong because it no longer references the entire spectrum of applicable information for the topic you're discussing.

They're a good tool if used correctly, but not exactly skynet lol

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cathole953 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fun fact, the majority of agriculture already IS mechanized and automated. Pretty much the only areas that still have a great need for physical human labor are specific treee fruit and ground fruit (like apples and strawberries) that can "bruise" and so need to be picked by hand rather than harvested by a shaker or roll over harevester (like cherries and blue berries respectively). Grains, starches (potatoes), and most other vegetables are already harvested using some form of automated mechanization.

Now having said that, the processing is where most of the illegals get hired, and we could gradually wean ourselves off of it into legal migrant workers or local americans, but I have to begrudgingly agree with most here in saying that if we just got rid of ALL of them at once it would cause food hyperinflation because there wouldn't be enough workers to immediately supply the demand and so food would go unprocessed and sorted, thus causing a shortage.

But like you said, lots of things are being automated and replaced with robots. I'd say within the next decade or so, that'll be the norm on most farms instead of hiring crap loads of cheap human labor

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