but other states might
They don’t. Do research instead of just wondering.
Anyway, you’re back to the idea that black people are too dumb to acquire and budget $25. I’m not buying that.
I’m not buying it either, that’s not the point I’m making.
Do your own work.
Coming from the guy that’s not only too lazy to provide a link to support his own claims, not only too lazy to actually research anything before making a point, but also too lazy to click the link provided by others.
Do any work, bud. I’m not gonna hold your hand the whole time.
They probably already do that.
Whoops, they don’t. You should try actually looking up facts instead of just thinking about it and making up your own conclusions.
Just pick out one or two good stats
Just read it yourself. I looked up and gave you the link. Don’t be lazy.
This is like the meme of the commie dweeb snarkily asking for “Sources?” for something observable
If you spend time in predominantly black and lower class communities, you can observe how difficult it is. These observations come with recorded statistics, that I've shown you, but you refuse to look at.
Many Americans who have ID, transportation, and voting eligibility choose not to vote. It’s their right and it’s not a big deal.
Neat. So for those who want to use their right, we should make it as easy as possible for them to exercise it.
a few otherwise eligible people who want to vote and who want to have valid ID but who can’t afford the $25 ID fee or the transportation cost of getting to the ID center don’t get to vote
Then that's a poorly run government if they have to pay to vote.
You talk about bus rides but many communities don't have reliable public transportation, so if you're suggesting that our government puts some serious investment into that, that would be excellent.
When you grossly misrepresented the “I don’t care” line, you were blatantly disingenuous
I didn't misinterpret it. I know you meant specifically my age. I was using that line as a larger sign of the whole: that you don't care about facts.
But if you think any of the stats on your link are relevant to the analysis and considerations above, feel free to cherry pick and quote or paraphrase them to me, and I’ll decide if they’re worth verifying.
Buddy you can't even provide a source to what you're saying. Why would I bother breaking down the links I already sent to you even further if you're too stupid to click on it yourself?
The report I linked to actually does have the ID stats that you’re asking for. Try actually taking a look instead of just immediately discounting any facts that might disagree with your worldview
You seem like don’t actually want to learn anything. You just want to imagine something in your head and insist it must be true. How do you expect me to look up your “sources” when you won’t even glance at the ones that I link for you?
You have no actual sources. You’ll just lean on some idea that “it totally happened bro trust me” and expect me to buy that?
As sleepy joe would say: Come on, man
You’re playing dumb
Not playing dumb. I’m well aware of what I was doing. I was taking your comment and making it more true: that you don’t care about facts. You just care about feelings.
Yes, you don’t care about my age either, but it’s because you don’t want to compromise on the imagined details you have of me. It’s indicative of the whole. You want to imagine me as too young to get it, so the further removed from facts you are the easier it is for you to cling to your made up scenario.
There was a post here not long ago with black people surveyed who all said...No, I’m not going to dig it up, so feel tiresome if you must
Lol just as I thought.
Thanks for telling me about it. I don't know if you're just pulling that out of your ass or if it's real, because the search function on this site isn't great and you don't have an actual link to the study, so I don't know how you expect me to take it seriously.
Instead of giving me a hard time about not digging up the stats, you should tell it to your politicians
There are plenty others who are able to provide the stats. Do you want something showing a lack of resources?
I'm hoping you actually take a look, instead of what I'm afraid you might do, which is briefly skim it then wave it off for being arbitrarily "too leftist" or some muck like that.
Democrats have never been concerned with black Americans’ IDs because it has always been a nonissue because blacks have ID
Source above shows otherwise.
Rhetorical, I don’t really care.
I've yet to find someone on this site who does. Most aren't interested in having an actual conversation with facts, instead just want to throw insults and speculation. I see you fit right in, but I'm hoping that this can actually continue and we can turn this discussion around to something a bit more mature.
Not me, but other people have taken surveys. Lol at your lol.
Ah, the classic "I don't have sources but you can try and look them up yourself with my vague claim and if you can't find them then you just aren't looking hard enough/the data was deleted."
That's a tiresome tactic, I'll be real.
You’re acting as if this is a bill to build a new Department of Motor Vehicles location in Compton, South Central. It’s not
I'm well aware it's not. But you're saying that democrats are concerned about it now but weren't then. I see this as a positive and something I agree with. I would certainly much rather there be more resources added, but citizens shouldn't be punished because the government failed to provide substantial resources.
(no free wifi!?!? not even a public library? christ, california is in worse shape than I thought if that's the case...)
Yes, this is what I'm saying. In some places, particularly often in predominantly black neighborhoods, there aren't government allocated resources to a well-functioning public library that can offer wifi.
DMV resources are also often much more limited in these areas.
It's not just in California.
So in one post you claim you've seen two hour videos, and in another you say no one can find the evidence?
Yes. I explain that the "evidence" in these two hour videos aren't really evidence as much as it's "isn't this weird? What if it's bc of satan??? Wouldn't that be crazy?"
my old hard drive that I had everything from that time backed up on got knocked off a shelf in my closet.
Hm, how convenient. Now if I were crazy, I could call a conspiracy theory here that someone purposefully knocked it off the shelf. Would that be reasonable? Or do sometimes accidents happen?
You don't even have quite ten pages of comments in a full year and a half, and your first comment here was only 7 months ago as a handshake.
Yes. I have had many usernames on many sites over many years. I wasn't born when this account was created. I knew about pizzagate the moment that first handkerchief email was tossed around, and have been following along ever since.
I'm happy to have a normal discussion with you about it, not to prove anything, not to try and fight with you on any claims, bc at the end of the day neither of us have any hard evidence, but I'm interested at least in discussing further if you truly think that there is something I've missed.
Or, like most people I talk to, you seem to just want to call out me not automatically believing you and peace out. That's in part why people don't take the claims seriously.
Black Americans have said themselves that getting valid ID is easy and that virtually all functioning black American adults have already done it.
Lol you took a survey or something?
Democrats had less to gain by risking the exposure of getting non-citizen hispanics to vote, so they had less reason to use black Americans as an excuse for not making hispanics show ID.
Then I'm glad to see the new leaders we've elected since then show proper concern with making sure everyone has accessible resources to get their ID.
Laws may not have changed much, but resources have.
"May be asked" has usually meant "will be asked" in disclaimers like these. There might be other procedures in cases where that happens. It's like at a stadium where they say "disruptors may be asked to leave" which means, yeah, they're kicking you out bud.
You also note that the form does ask for the license number/SSN, meaning that's a requirement to actually register
Pizza is also a well-beloved food item in the US. The reason it might be used as code is because it is used and talked about so frequently by so many people in so many contexts it wouldn't stand out.
Like the whole pizza and hot dogs thing at the white house. Out of context, that's cirtainly strange that a huge budget went into a meal of just pizza and hot dogs. However, when you take into context the fact that the pizza and hot dogs were deep dish pizzas and chicago hot dog ingredients flown in and delivered from nice established restaurants it makes a lot more sense.
I saw the heaps of work that went into it. I saw a few of those 2-hour youtube videos that people like to share that really just point at a lot of "isn't this weird? What if it means something else?" and not much beyond that.
The other tough part is that no matter how gentle I've been with expressing doubt or questioning the theory in the past, I'm almost always met with hostility. I never seem to encounter a single person who is willing to just have a frank discussion about it without just slinging a load of links, an insult, and a "figure it out yourself."
Pedophelia among the elite is very real. The pizza and triangle spiral collections are manic at best.
There were heaps of evidence.
That nobody seems to have or be able to find.
I'm not denying that pedophelia exists among the elite, but the whole pizza handkerchief story was even dumber. It was a weird email that doesn't really mean anything. I've texted about pizza hundreds of times, some of them might be some weird context that wouldn't make sense to any outside reader.
If an American citizen, CA resident, and eligible voter already has a valid ID and uses it to comply with CA’s existing voter ID requirement, then an additional local voter ID requirement wouldn’t be an obstacle or an imposition
It would depend on what that additional requirement was.
“low… information resources” is their way of euphemizing ‘uninformed and unresourceful’.
Actually there are proven fewer resources available to them. Communities are built on the resources available, which is why most often the best towns/neighborhoods have good access to public education and resources. Well maintained roads, responsive emergency services, green space, etc. All things that are funded by taxpayers and built/maintained by the government.
Historically, in predominantly black communities, there was not as much government spending going into those communities. They had fewer resources and have struggled as communities, historically, because of it, and those struggles carry over to present day.
How concerned for black Americans’ supposed lack of ID resources were the Democrats in the 20th century when the logistics of getting an ID might’ve actually been more difficult and blacks had less wealth, but when there were also far fewer non-citizens in the US?
Probably not concerned enough! So hopefully those democrats are getting voted out of office. Most of them are probably dead though, considering I think you're talking about 60 years ago, so it's good that things are changing in favor of making more resources available so that we can have more high functioning communities.
Well, no, because the law still requires an ID.
The comments that democrats are making are that resources in predominantly black neighborhoods are notoriously low, in terms of available places to renew as well as information resources. The "too stupid" thing is kind of a cartoonish way to put it
Piggybacking bc you're the top comment: It's not quite as it seems.
There are already voter ID requirements in place in California to ensure voters are eligible when they vote. The law that Newsom just signed prevents local governments from creating additional laws on top of the already existing laws.
According to the statement:
“State election law already contains robust voter ID requirements with strong protections to prevent voter fraud, while ensuring that every eligible voter can cast their ballot without hardship. Imposing unnecessary obstacles to voter participation disproportionately burdens low-income voters, voters of color, young or elderly voters, and people with disabilities.”
So it looks like the law prevents local governments from making additional laws. There are still pre-existing Voter ID laws that are in place in California.
This is misleading.
I was thinking the same thing.
Also, if the donald harris birth certificate found doesn't match the full name of the donald harris that is Kamala's father...is it a different donald harris? That's not exactly the most uncommon sounding of names.
What sustains life is the goldilocks zone, spin of the earth, our sun, etc basically all things out of our control.
And content of the atmosphere, which is something that we can affect from our actions.
The ozone layer? We now know that it can self repair itself.
It can! Just like we have scars that can heal. However, if the ozone layer is destroyed faster than it can repair itself, then we have a problem.
Our impact on our atmosphere with normal human activities is tiny in the grand scheme of things regarding earth's processes.
If we want to compare to 100 million years ago, yes! However, the impact on our atmosphere compared to a much shorter time frame is pretty significant.
West side is fine, my sister lived there for a bit and I have a few pals in that area. South side is far worse. Unless you're talking out like east garfield, but even that is swinging around.
Also, firecrackers? That's just a loud toy lol
Moreover, they shouldn’t have to. There shouldn’t be any financial requirement to vote, even if it’s just a dollar. Voting should be free and easily accessible to all citizens.