Thanks, Appreciated.
This response is to your other post. I’m going to have them both here, with this response coming later.
You're well versed in how to use this site, I've been here since the Voat exodus, and just found out the other day you can tag someone, is there a link you can give me that lists all the bells and whistles or something?
which is also why my Month 3 Winning post didn’t get completed (yet)
I don't know what this means either??
Now there’s something I never caught before, nice one! That strikes me as someone laying out an early frame-job blackmail/discredit trap! Playbook known.
To be fair, its a naked young man (16-21yo) still. In Plato's "Phaedrus," Socrates uses the term "neaniskos" to refer to a young man who has reached the age of adolescence but is not yet considered an adult.
Or to normalize pedophilia along with John 6, to normalize cannibalism and their evil rituals. What was in that cup he wanted his father to take from him? [Mark 14:36]
Take your time in your replies, even if its a week or month, no hurry, I want the A game.
I don’t think I have energy for anything else, which is why it’s taken me days to get to this twice now
Does that mean you concede, Jesus never claims Yhwh as his Father by name, that there is no biblical evidence for Yhwh being Jesus’ Father? Say Uncle ;)
Where I was going with my poorly worded comment was that if you think the God of the OT (and NT) is evil, simply proving that Jesus claimed Him and was sent by Him won’t do anything to resolve the underlying issue, which is why you think He is evil.
To be clear, I think OT Yhwh is evil, and Is never named in the NT. I do not think Yhwh is Jesus’ father, Jesus is human and an enlighten being, a bringer of light, all humans are capable of good and evil.
Care to provide some examples?
I'm guessing you mean, examples where Jesus is evil?
This would become a very long discussion, but in the short, I have a problem with what Jesus says in John 6, the Eucharist is a cannibalistic, blood sacrifice.
I gotta wonder what Jesus was doing in the Garden of Gethsemane, getting arrested at 4am with a naked kid. [Mark 14:52] Screaming "Im not a Pirate" [Mark 14:48]
Honestly, those two examples I have to wonder how much of the NT has been altered to fit the R.C.C. needs. I haven't squared them yet.
See my reply, the one before this one. For the evils of Yhwh.
If I told you my name was Runs With Scissors, and it was always the name (not title) by which I identified myself, and the name by which everyone knew me, where is the deceit?
Why don’t use your real name on this board? I don’t use my real name because I want the aninimity, I don’t want to be doxxed, I don’t want people to look up my personal information or harrass me or my family or risk my employer being contacted for what I say or opinions I express. Seems to me, “If you were, are, and will be all existence” you wouldn’t need to worry about this type of thing. Makes me think he is a lesser God subject to higher Gods.
Where are examples of His being evil?
Deuteronomy 7:1-2, 1 Samuel 15:1-3, Numbers 31, Isaiah 13:16, Hosea 13:6, Jeremiah 19:9, Ezekial 5:10, Lamentations 2:21, ect.
Deuteronomy 28 chronicles a list of curses that God intends to punish Israel with should they fail to obey him including that; the women of Israel would be raped (Deut 28:30), that Israel's enemies would enslave them (Deut 28:48), that the nation would experience famine so severe that families would eat the corpses of their dead children (Deut 28:53), that the corpses of the Israel's people would be fed on by the birds (Deut 28:26),
"Those killed by the sword are better off than those who die of famine wracked with hunger, they waste away for lack of food from the field. With their own hands compassionate women have cooked their own children who became their food when my people were destroyed. The Lord has given full vent to his wrath; he has poured out his fierce anger." (Lamentations 4:9-11)
1 Samuel 15: 7-35 Saul does what Yhwh ordered, breaking Three of the Ten Commandments [Thou Shall Not Kill, Thou Shall Not Steal, Thou Shall Not Covet Thy Neighbor’s Wife, His Slaves, His Animals, Or Anything Of Thy Neighbor] in the process. When Saul offers a burnt offering to Yhwh and brings Agag back ALIVE, Yhwh rejects him as King of Israel. Burnt Offerings to Yhwh is not mentioned in the Ten Commandments, Yet Leviticus 6:8-13 gives exact instructions on how to offer burnt offerings to Yhwh.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.
Dude is a Psycopath on the level of Charles Manson, turning his followers into murderers and theives.
There you go, God job, you are forgiven and we can reboot. I'm been guilty of the same situation. Let's move on.
First time I’ve ever been called orthodox…
If you call something Heresy, by definition it's unorthodox. Something I strive to be. May I ask what you consider yourself then? I study all myths and religions to form my beliefs, nothing is heresy to me.
And you have just received an apology on the internet.
My First One.
I'm guessing Winn guided you here? Our thread was getting out of hand, my last reply to him took me close to three hours. Im sure he had it and was being kind by passing it on to you, I don't know? Something we might want to be aware of and try to limit responses to as short as possible. I think its better to do a bunch of short responses rather than one long response. Do you agree?
Marcionism is a definite heresy...
Its originally a Gnostic concept, not Marcionism, Its arguable weather Marcion was a Gnostic or not. Marcion believed Jesus was not human, I do and so do the Gnostics. I lean toward Gnosticism.
I can't take anyone's argument seriously when they label something as heresy. Its a close minded. Orthodoxy believe that the Christian Faith and the Church are inseparable. It is impossible to know Christ, to share in the life of the Holy Trinity, or to be considered a Christian, apart from the Church. It is in the Church that the Christian Faith is proclaimed and maintained. I can't think of a better way to stifle free thought and control religious freedom than to subscribe to Orthodoxy and fear being called a Heretic, go use your Fear based rhetoric somewhere else. It carries no meaning for my scholarly pursuits. Your a sheep, being lead to slaughter by your shepherd. [Q Post #290/#998]
Moses also followed YHWH (“I Am, that I Am”)
So. He follows a god that is so deceitful he won't give us his real name? If you know a Demon's name you can control them and cast them out. [Mark:5-9-10]
Who, specifically was Jesus speaking to?
His Father. I could ask you the same question, because no where in the New Testament does it refer to Yhwh by name, unlike the Old Testament. All we know is he is speaking to his father.
Who were they?
See above.
How would Jesus have denounced his own house?
I take it you mean Why not How. I'll take House to mean the Jews in general and not Judah and to go against Yhwh and his laws. Mathew 12:9-14, John 8:1-11, Mark 7:19, ect, ect.
Whose character had they adopted? (They were already far from written Torah practice)
Can you clarify? I have no clue to what you're referring.
because in your current state, you would just trample it,
I'll take that you mean by my current state as awakened to the false teachings of the R.C.C. that high jacked Christianity and metastasized throughout all Christian based Churches and their doctrine. You are on a Q board you should know this, unless you are just here to preach fire and brimstone and virtue signal as I suspect. You should know that 10000000000000000000000000000000000000% of Churches are compromised through NGO's from this Q board.
And by trample you mean, I would totally crush your Orthodoxy arguments.
Honestly, this statement set the tone for my entire reply. Not very Christian of you. You Fraud. And on Easter none the less. Typical.
I will assert that I know with 100% certainty, and it is that Yeshua came in accordance with YHWH’s Will, which is good.
Prove it. 100% Bullshit if you can't prove it. I really don't care what you believe you lost all credibility with me as soon as you said Heresy. You are "Fire and Brimstone", preaching fear
If YHWH is false, Jesus is false, and Christianity is false
That's False.
You cannot remove the foundation and still have the building
Go back to the scriptures and re-examine your foundational principles and understandings.
How about NO!
How about we just let people believe what they want to, instead of force feeding them your regurgitated points of view. How about we admit that no one knows a 10000000000000000000000000% if God exists. How about we just have a friendly debate to find the holes in our own augments and respect other beliefs, but I think thats to much to ask from an Orthodox Christian who thinks he has a mission to proselytize and convert everyone into a free-thinkers nightmare.
I believe in most of Jesus' teachings, weather from the Bible or Gnostic texts, is that not enough for you, I need to agree with your Orthodoxy 100000000000000000%, you'd make a great democrat, why don't you go back and re-examine your foundational principles and understandings. The R.C.C. would love to have you become a democrat to complete your orthodoxy. Idiot.
Settle down there Outlaw.
That Biblical verse doesn't prove Yhwh was Jesus' father or that Yhwh wasn't evil.
It does prove he is deceitful though, not allowing us to know his true name.
I was referring to his link to a cheap tent from Amazon and the cheap ass women in the capsule who were also "made by" China.
Yelp, checks out...Cheap crap made by China.
Rev. 22:16
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
You are an Outlaw Bible Student, you believe Jesus is the offspring of Evil.
And Yaweh is indeed the name of God
The name of your god, maybe, you Outlaw Bible Student.
God, they are clever. kek
Oh I'm certainly not above mud-slinging or rabid rhetoric. I try to keep it comical, you know, practice my insult comedy when it does happen, weather it comes off like that or not is a different story. Its all in fun, no hate, at least from my POV. We are all just trying to figure it out.
I do find the ones who are not in an organized religion to be more open to different interpretations and not as offended by them. Less brainwashed I guess. (we're all brainwashed to a certain level)
Isaiah 6:9-10
Interesting point. I believe we are all prisoner, blind, and oppressed, by an evil God.
Micah 6:8
My major point on this was the second word ἀνηγγέλη means To Mock and they translate it as Told, a clear mistranslation. Im not a classical philologist so Im not going to argue the rest of my translation, but I think my translation is close.
I've also wrestled with eternal torment and have come to conclude that the doctrine was eisegeted by the Catholic church to control people and is not what the Scriptures actually say. If anything I lean toward Anihillationism mixed with a bit of reincarnation / do-over, though I wouldn't dare debate that point since the Scriptures mention nothing of the sort. I'm a silly sorta' sola-scriptura Saint 😂
Eisegete. Great Word!, i'm stealing this. Totally agree the RCC does this, along with several people on this board and possibly me sometimes, inadvertently.
I do believe we reincarnate, I'm not sola-scriptura saint (another great word). I incorporate all myths and religions in my beliefs. I think they are all telling the same story. As far as Anihillationism, I think the world will seperate into three, the Good, the Bad and the Ugly. The Bad and Ugly will battle it out Ragnarok style and the Good will continue on in harmony without the Bad and Ugly fuck'n shit up. We will attain a higher state of being through our "junk" DNA being turned on [Q Post #4966] Ascension.
He is pivoting back to the Pharisees (or to the Jews who side with them) who interjected, and they resume debating Jesus in verse 39, continuing all the way to the end of the chapter, encompassing verse 44. The believing Jews did not speak at all during this.
Good argument, I'll concede this point. It was the Pharisees who wanted to kill him. But I assert that Yhwh is the Pharisee's father.
John 8:19 - Then they asked him, “Where is your father?” “You do not know me or my Father, ...
If Yhwh was Jesus' Father, then the Pharisees would know Jesus' Father, yet Jesus clearly states that they do not know his Father.
Jesus refers to YHWH all throughout the Gospels...
The translators have replaced the actual names with variations of Lord and God. This is why I rely on the Septuagint, I feel the names they use are a little more accurate. If you use strong's it seem to always use Yahweh. I definitely feel your on the right path with the council of gods, there is more than one god in the Bible, a hard realization for some.
I think they serve a myraid of false gods. Saturn, Jupiter, Isis Horus Set, et cet
I would go one step further and say there are a myriad of Good Gods and Evil Gods. Where are the Female Gods in the Bible? Plenty of male archangels, plenty of evil males where are the evil females? I subscribe to the idea of the gods reincarnating on Earth and walking among us, Good and Evil. When you stated Paul later further exposits the difference between being a physical descendent of Abraham vs. being a spiritual descendent in Rom. 9:6-8 and Gal. 3:26-29. I think this maybe a clue to gods reincarnating, the spiritual ancestor of Abraham is Abraham reincarnating back on Earth.
Q appears to align the Catholic church with Hitler's Nazi Germany. To me it seems Q is linking the Clintons, the Vatican, and the Nazis together. To what end I haven't delved much into it.
I think thats what I am getting at, they all worship Thor. When the politicians and Hollywood sell their souls they are selling their souls to Thor. The one eye club is their symbol, they are no longer "blind" they have one eye and can see beyond the veil, I haven't got this all figured out yet but I believe it has to do with a ritual of placing a "worm" in their eye and drinking something. After that it allows demons to possess them and heighten their abilities, singing, acting, speaking, ect. They will have to fight to get their souls back during "Ragnarok" or just become Evil for eternity.
What are the practical ramifications of that train of thought? Where would I go from there? I've never heard that interpretation of those drops so I'm interested where they lead.
A year or so ago I started digging on Q Post 290 and 998 and realized that Q might be saying the R.C.C. was worshiping an evil God. So I tied that to what the Gnostics were saying. It made sense to me why the R.C.C. was eradicating Gnosticism, If the Kid Diddlers didn't want us to study the Gnostics, I was going to study the Gnostics. The R.C.C. was the original Christianity and had full control over the texts and their interpretations / translations via the monasteries and scribes. They were hiding the Truth and we know they hide the truth in plain site so I started looking for proof of Gnostic beliefs in the Bible and in what Jesus actually said.
I subscribe to the thought that we are in a simulation, Elon has stated this also. I believe when Eve "ate the apple" from the Tree of God and Evil we were forced to learn about evil. In my opinion, your are exactly correct when you stated: Man is wired to know God; however God had to distance Himself from sinful man because we would immediately die if approached by God while in sin, for sin cannot exist in God's presence. We were thoroughly infected with a cancer; God's presence is like the ultimate chemo radiation all at once. This is why we were placed in the simulation, to remove us from God to learn about evil. This is very similar to the Hindu's belief that it is impossible to know Brahman, the highest god, because we are too far removed from him and are unable to worship him properly because of our ignorance (blindness). It also aligns with the Hindu concept of Maya. Indra who is equated with Thor, Zeus and Yhwh, all being rain and storm gods, uses Maya to help him conquer Virtra an Asura demon. Indra being part of what I called the Ugly and Virtra being the Bad. So basically its a school of hard knocks, once we graduate we will eat of the Tree of Life and have everlasting life on our way to become Gods. [Genesis 3:22]. There are several metaphors in the bible that refer to the simulation, The Veil, Tent, Blindness, Drunkenness [2 Corinthians 4:18]
I don't think it exists.
Right on, You have my respect.
Have a Good Easter.
Except that you think Yahweh is the name of Satan, when it was clearly the name imparted by God for himself.
I never said Yahweh is the name of Satan.
I said Yhwh is an evil god. I said Yhwh is the Devil.
Satan, the Devil (Diablo) and Lucifer are all different beings.
What the hell are you talking about? I never said he was speaking to all Jews and I addressed this in my last reply to you. It was the first sentence, You might want to take a reading comprehension class.
Winn and my discussion was on if he was speaking to the Pharisees or the Jews that believed in him or both. Which wasn't even the main argument, the main argument was is Yhwh an Evil God or a Benevolent God.
No, he was not speaking to "Jews" at large.
I never said he was speaking to the Jews at large. I quoted verse 31: To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples".
He was speaking to Jews who thought that descent from Abraham was all they needed to be sons of God.
This is not what I read at all, verse 32-33: Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. 33 ”They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?”
The Jews thought that Jesus was speaking of "physical" slavery, but he was speaking of "spiritual" slavery, the slavery of sin. Jesus clarifies this in the next verse, Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.
The following verses is where it gets confusing because they are speaking about three different fathers; Abraham, Yhwh, and Jesus' Father/God.
Im using the NIV version of the Bible for this argument.
Jesus says in verse 37 I know you are Abraham descendants yet you are looking for a way to kill me.
That is a very important YET, Jesus knows Abraham is a good guy and would trust in what Jesus was teaching Yet, the Jews want to kill him for his teachings. Jesus goes against their father's laws given to Moses
Verse 38 clarifies this; I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father.
Jesus is distinguishing The Father from your father. This also confused the Jews because the next verse the Jews say, "Abraham is our father". In the next verse Jesus clarifies again that Abraham is righteous.
“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”
Its clear that Jesus is talking about Three Different Fathers.
Jesus never says the name of his father.
Yhwh is never mentioned by name in the New Testament.
In the first part of John 8, Jesus goes against Yhwh's laws given to Moses, this is why the Jews want to kill him. This is how we know Jesus is against Yhwh because He said not to stone the woman.
John 8:19 - They said to him therefore, “Where is your Father?” Jesus answered, “You know neither me nor my Father". If Yhwh was Jesus' father they would know who he is.
Yhwh is mention 50 times in the Old Testament and is stated in
אַתָּ֤ה - ’at-tāh - You [are]
יְהוָה֙ - Yah-weh - Yahweh
אָבִ֔ינוּ - ’ā-ḇî-nū, - Our Father
Jesus is calling the father of the Jews, Yahweh the Devil.
False. Jesus was drawing a distinction between the adherents of God and the adherents of the devil, according to their willingness to hear (or not hear) His Word. He did not call God the devil. Reading passages 31-47 makes that clear.
No, Jesus was saying the Jews wanted to kill him because of his words, and were following their fathers desires by trying to kill him.
verse 44 ...and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer...
Yhwh is a known murder in the Old Testament, He commanded his people to commit genocide, killed little children, wiped out the entire world population in one fell swoop, sent plagues and devastation, and created a world full of people but decided to only reveal Himself and his rules to one group of people.
This Is Not Jesus' Father.
Let me preface this by saying, You're a good debater. I'm not trying to change your beliefs or trying to get you to think a certain way, Im merely trying to strengthen my arguments and theories, to find the "holes". Much Respect, your knowledge has helped. I'm interested to know your denomination.
Also, my last reply was somewhat incomplete in addressing someof the points you made. It was late and Gutfeld was coming on so I fired off the reply to quickly. I will address those now.
As to the 'good God / evil God' thing, that's called Marcionism.
I would consider my views more Gnostic than Marcionism, the differences being Marcionism denies the human nature of Jesus (docetic), and base their theology on The Letters of Paul, where as the Gnostics base their theology on secret knowledge. There is much debate on weather Maricon was a Gnostic or not.
It is a false teaching promulgated by people who haven't had the holy Spirit open the eyes of their understanding, and so they cannot read the Old Testament properly
I believe that if you study the Bible it will eventually reveal its secretes to you, "Seek and you shall find." I truly believe it is divinely inspired and will reveal to any individual the answers they need/require. This is why Im opposed to organized religion, I don't feel they encourage individual thought or individual study of the Bible, at least the churches I've known.
Micah 6:8
If you claim to not trust the Pharisees and the Scribes does this mean you also do not trust Paul's writings, a Pharisee?
Do you lean more towards the Sadducees? If so, I would assume you favor the Septuagint over the Masoretic Texts, the Sadducees being more Hellenistic. I would agree, I use the Septuagint for studying the Bible.
In the Septuagint Micah 6:8 is translated as
Has it [not] been told thee, O man, what [is] good? or what does the Lord require of thee, but to do justice, and love mercy, and be ready to walk with the Lord thy God?
The Greek word ἀνηγγέλη is translated as to mock, or to be laughed at NOT told as the Masoretic states, so I translate it as
You are being Mocked, The beautiful man who says, "The Lord (Yhwh) seeks to disable you" Indeed, Otherwise why bring about judgement, and destroy love and compassion. Be ready to find the Lord God in the midst of yourself.
I can show you my complete translation if interested.
I am fully against the "fire and brimstone" type of rhetoric, I wrestle with God and I think that he approves, I believe we are here to learn good from evil and to question everything not just swallow what we are given mindlessly.
You need to go back to the beginning of John 8. Look at verse 3 and verse 13 specifically to understand Jesus' audience during this passage. Verse 44 isn't a stand-alone passage, it has a ton of context.
You are correct that I didn't go back to verse 1, I went back to verse 31, the last place it stated to whom Jesus was speaking. The last place he was speaking to the Pharisees was 13. Besides I believe they all claim the same father, they all claim to be Jews as far as I know their conflict was with purity laws, not what God they worshiped.
As to all that rune stuff I think you're going into absurdity. Afaik the P and C posts were related to the Vatican and the pope.
Q #290 does show a picture of Thor below the Pope and a Bishop, I don't think its that absurd to use the Norse runes, if he's showing a picture of a Norse God.
And the God of the Winged Wheel God coin validates the ancients saw Zeus and Yhwh as the same God.
Q states that the Chair severs the Master, well I can tell you the R.C.C. is not serving the same Loving God as I try to, for sure and I think Q is saying the same thing and is showing us that Thor is who the R.C.C. is serving. Why else show a picture of Thor below the Pope?
I study every religion, nothing is off the table. I think they are all telling the same story from different viewpoints.
...one can't help but presume malice on the part of our Founders due to them being a part of the now tarnished 'Freemasonry'. - What's your opinion of their documents then? Specifically the Constitution, how do you square that?
I strongly disagree, Jesus says "You belong to your father, the devil", nothing about Scribes or Pharisees in John 8, what version of the Bible are you using? Where do you read that he is speaking to Scribes and Pharisees? Yhwh is the Jews Father, Whom Jesus calls the Devil.
I think Q even hinted at this:
The "Chair" serves the Master.
Who is the Master?
P = C.
Q
[Thor]
Thor being a Norse God points us to the Rune.
P = The Rune P
P = Thor (Thunraz)
C = The Rune C
C = Ulcer = a moral blemish or corrupting influence
Confirms Thor is "The Master"
Thor = Indra / Zeus / Yahweh (all Storm/Rain Gods, all the same God)
The God of the Winged Wheel Coin confirms Yhwh is the same as Zeus.
The Founding Fathers were Freemasons. The original Freemasons were more Gnostic in their beliefs, which is why, in my opinion, they were infiltrated by the R.C.C. slightly before the Civil War. The R.C.C. again were trying to eradicate Gnosticism.
The R.C.C. hijacked Christianity and Freemasonry.
The Gnostic teach that the God of this world is an Evil God. Jesus claims this also;
John 8:44
You (the Jews) belong to your father (Yhwh), the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
From the Article; ...it remained a high priority for the Vatican and her Free Masonic foot soldiers as was evidenced by a letter written 80 years later from Confederate Army General Albert Pike, a high Freemason and the founder of the Ku Klux Klan, the purpose of which was to exploit racial hatred to keep populations divided and easy to control.
Albert Pike, though a high ranking member of the KKK was not a founder.
The KKK is a Protestant organization not a Catholic organization. The KKK is Anti-Catholic.
The second Klan, broadened the scope of the organization to appeal to people in the Midwestern and Western states who considered Catholics, Jews, and foreign-born minorities to be anti-American.
The Second Klan saw threats from every direction. According to historian Brian R. Farmer, "two-thirds of the national Klan lecturers were Protestant ministers"
Wait, Are you saying KNOWLEDGE is wrong?
I wish the Government was MORE committed to Knowledge, a good IQ test for Congress would weed out the AOC's and Corey Booker's, ect.
Thanks, We need to get Elon/DOGE on these NGOs.
The Catholic Church and the Jesuits are the same thing. The Pope is a Jesuit.
The Jesuits are an order of Roman Catholic priests. They primarily work as teachers and missionaries. With over 16,000 members in its religious community around the world and 28 colleges and universities and dozens of high schools and primary schools in the United States, the Jesuits make up the largest male religious order in the Catholic Church and have left a significant imprint on American education.
Yes, but she's the most "doable" female supreme court justice, so maybe we get rid of the two other female supreme court justice "ugos" first.
The Garden of Gethsemane and the Euchurist are anwsers to a question you did not ask, but I thought you did. So I don’t want to spend a lot of time on questions I haven’t completely thought through or analyzed or in the Eurcharist case, I’ve already made up my mind. I will give you some preliminary answers on the Garden of Gethsemane, but I don’t wish to argue yet. I feel we are getting off track a little bit from the orginal argument of; Is there proof that Jesus is the son of Yhwh in the NT. Is Yhwh evil?
Jesus himself says (v.49) I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled. If Jesus was being arrested for insurection, why did they not arrest him in the act of preaching “insurection” in the temple. Instead Judas leads them to a garden in the middle of the night when he’s preaching to no one, Why? Jesus is even questioning it. What were Jesus, John, James and Peter doing in the garden, why did they need to have the other disciples be on the look out? What the hell were they doing?
[John 18] It is stated that Jesus was being arrested for claiming to be the king of the jews, so I don’t argue that…yet.
Not sure what your point is here, young man is a word used describe lots of individuals.
2025-430=1595
Early Modern English (late 16th century) - The grammatical and orthographical conventions of literary English in the late 16th century and the 17th century are still very influential on modern Standard English. Most modern readers of English can understand texts written in the late phase of Early Modern English, such as the King James Bible and the works of William Shakespeare, and they have greatly influenced Modern English. Bad Argument. Its nonsense.
Im unorthodox what can I say, I question everything. You’re right it is a polar inversion of his supossed charter, In my opinion so is the Eucharist. So what is a scantaly clad young man doing in the garden at 4 am with Jesus while the other disciples are on look out? The question remains.
For the record I call Yhwh the DEVIL or EVIL not Satan. They”re different beings in my view.
I believe we were born into ignorance, sin is derived from ignorance. I don’t believe Jesus died for our sins, if he did there would be no sin,
This is your opinion.
How exactly did Jesus dying clamp down on further sinning, it’s currently rampant.
If Yhwh, is all powerful, why didn’t he destroy the “sinners” of Canaan, Amalek, ect. himself, instead of sending the Jews to die in battle. If he was concerned with them destorying themselves, he would have destroyed the sinners, as he did with Sodom and Gomorrah.
The Abrahamic religions are destorying themselves to this day. Bad Argument.
Yhwh is a jealous god, he only wants worship and praise, it’s not about sin.
[Exodus 34:14] Do not worship any other god, for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
Phthonus he is often compared and linked to the goddess of chaos and discord, Éris, for always causing the same effects as the goddess, using and abusing jealousy and envy to create fights between everyone. Furthermore, they are both Daemons.
Israel was not unique, The Code of Ur-Nammu is the oldest law code, The Sumerians also had The Instructions to Shuruppak, instructions for the up coming flood. Hell I’d argue that most of the OT Bible, if not all, are copies of the Sumerians tablets, not to mention the Indian text Manusmriti which dates around 1000-500bce, Jews were not unique.
Are you saying that, because Yhwh gave the Jews laws, his psycopathic transgressions can be excused?
“Tough Love Dad” , Kek. What would you call a father who would have his daughter raped for disobeying him, What would you call a father who would send his child into slavery for disobeying him, What would you call a father who would starve their child so severley that they would eat corpses for disobeying him….A Tough Love Dad? Really? I don’t think you are being intellectually honest. It seems to me you are normalizing Yhwh’s evilness. Rules for thee, but not for me…
Again having someone else do his dirty work. Did your father often have the neigborhood kids come over and kick your ass and steal your shit for punishment? What a horrible father if he didn’t, in your opinion.
Besides I thought we had free-will, free to chose Yhwh or not, free to worship golden calfs if we want. Obviously we don’t.
John 6:55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink.
This is not metaphor. I think this is a R.C.C. edit (the whole chapter). I don’t agree with your belief that Jesus wanted to “thin the herd”, that’s far reaching with no proof, when he could of just not invited them to Passover. He wouldn’t spend all that time preaching to aquire disciples only to scare them into leaving?
I understand what most people believe the Eurcharist is, I just don’t believe it, its a problem I have with the NT Jesus. I stand firm on this belief, the Eurcharist is wrong.
You a John Bolton fan? ;) I concede, you are correct that a muderer is the aggressor and a killer is a victim of agression. Generally an invading army are murderers and the people they are invading are killers. The Amalekites are the agressors, this does not explain the killing of the women and infants though, the infants were definitely not agressors they were completely innocent and I suspect neither were the women, they were both murdered. So I think it stands, Yhwh condoned murder. And you are condoning Yhwh’s transgressions.
They did, They moved them to Washington D.C. and Hollywood.
New York City, Michigan, Chicago, L.A., San Fransico, Seattle, Portland. School Shootings, Riots, Lawfare, Cancle Culture, Trans. Surgeries For Children, Child Trafficking , Child Slavery, Covid Lock Downs, D/S Releasing A Genetic Engineered Virus, Madatory Vacines That Kill You, Allowing Fentanyl, Homelessness Run Rampant ect., ect. Are you seriously trying to tell me mankind has matured? You are either being intellectualy dishonest or you are asleep. Bad Argument. I do think with Trump back in office it’s getting better, we’ll see.
Im still waiting for documented proof that Yhwh is Jesus’ father.