From what I understand the jab is required as a criteria for granting a green card. If you have a valid visa, nothing should be stopping you from traveling to and from the USA. Also if you're in the USA on a visa, you should be able to extend the visa without needing the jab.
But quick disclaimer, this is not legal advice. I would ask an attorney about what the rules and options are for your situation so you can plan around it.
"They" is me and my wife in this case. And the waiver is difficult because you need to have a religious reason against ALL vaccines, not just covid-19.
I've gotten the opinions of one law firm on this, and I'm in the process of reaching out to more to get their opinions on this.
The main source of frustration is why is a religious exemption needed for something that can kill you? I've been really tempted to troll USCIS by sending in a one line waiver that says, "I love Jesus, but I'm not in a hurry to meet him any time soon".
The people who get the jab are the same people who get "covid" more often. So It's definitely laughable to call something with negative efficacy "preventable".
Title 42 ended, so as far as I know illegals are not required to get the jab as far as I know. This is only an arbitrary requirement for green card applicants.
Also Biden admin: Legal immigrants still need to get jabbed: https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/panel-physicians/vaccinations.html#covid-19-vaccination
Legal immigrants are also still required to have the jab: https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/panel-physicians/vaccinations.html#covid-19-vaccination
Can someone recommend removing vaccine mandates for legal immigrants? https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/panel-physicians/vaccinations.html#covid-19-vaccination
Mandates from the CDC have not stopped: https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/panel-physicians/vaccinations.html#covid-19-vaccination
Mean whole the admin is more than happy to enforce jab mandates for legal immigrants: https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/panel-physicians/vaccinations.html#covid-19-vaccination
It's eligle to apply for waiver. It's not guaranteed.
I'll try again. I didn't get a response from sending in a contact form a few days ago.
Milgram experiment: "Give a nurse a needle with an unknown substance and see if they'll inject it into someone without informed consent if you tell them it's okay"
Also the CDC is still being a dick and trying to force legal immigrants to get jabbed, even though that requirement was dropped for everyone else in May 2023: https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/panel-physicians/vaccinations.html#covid-19-vaccination
One can hope. The problem is that I heard it's pretty expensive to take the feds to task to call them out on their bullshit.
- it's already unconstitutional for recommendations to be treated as law.
- it's arbitrary because it's only applied to legal immigrants
- it's unjustified because the jab doesn't stop infection or transmission
- it's unjustified because (practically) no one's died from covid since April 2022
- it's cruel and unusual to force people to take a medical procedure that can kill and/or maim them
- it's illegal to force someone to get an experimental medical procedure without their consent
- it's depriving people of life and liberty without due process
The problem is that it's still going to be a long drawn out court process to get the government to admit to it. The best solution for me is to meme the CDC into submission to get enough attention and shame brought on them, that they are being criminally negligent in this and find any possible way to avoid litigation.
This was a post of someone else's video and I didn't back it up. You can use the hashtag #DiedSuddenly on Twitter to find a lot of examples of what was posted in the video: https://twitter.com/hashtag/DiedSuddenly
When you say you go to the embassy for the interview, you must mean the embassy in the country where you currently reside. And it's someone there who makes the decision that will affect your entire life?
The waiver decision is done by mail to USCIS. So that's someone sitting behind a desk.
The interview at the embassy is more a formality where you need to show up, present copies of all of the documents, and show you're a real person.
If you've managed to make it to the interview it's because you've cleared all of the paperwork and you're fairly likely to get approved.
What the interviewer is looking for is asking questions about human trafficking, making sure the story lines up and you are who you say you are.
An example was that I was behind a newly wed couple and the interviewer was asking them about where they met (in Vegas) and then proceeding to ask very nuanced questions about what they saw on the strip, where they had lunch and stuff like that to look for inconsistencies.
My wife and I have been married for several years and have kids, so generally we get an easy pass on those kinds of questions. If we get to the point of having another interview it'll pretty much mean we're able to move forward with the green card process.
Have you tried reaching out to Thomas Renz -- Constitutional lawyer?
I found him on twitter and sent him a note on the "contact us" through their law firm web site a few days ago. But I have not gotten a response.
It's possible to apply for a religious waiver. But the catch is that you need to have a religious reason against all vaccines and it helps to have proof of religious affiliation. Also it's completely up to the officer making the decision.
The alternative is if CDC drops the requirement for the vaccine, or the executive branch makes another EO to stop jabs for green card applicants. This is the strategy I'm going for right now, to point out the it's public knowledge that the jabs are harmful and not only are they still available, but they're actively being forced on people under duress.
A third and option would be to apply for the religious waiver, get denied. Sue the government. Lose the case because of the way the law is written and then get an appeal for the constitutional argument to a higher court. This would likely costs tons of money and we'd likely be prevented from entering the country for another five years.
Otherwise we'd need to give up our green card application, and hopefully dropping it on our own without getting the waiver doesn't count against us too harshly on another application.
You can try. But the catch is that you need to have a religious reason against ALL vaccines. So if you had other vaccines in your adult life or don't belong to a religious group then it's probably that you'll get turned down.
You can't selectively say, "i don't want to get the jab because it will give me cancer and kill me". Or you can but then it's really hard to that matter in front of a court because immigration is left almost entirely to the executive branch.
Idk what country you are right now, but if you are in a first world country this might not work well.
This doesn't work where I'm at as far as I know.
Unfortunately I’m in US and I cannot do the same here and I’ll have to leave before my visa expires. l otherwise I’d take a shot
Can you buy a flight to another country and bring back the documentation to say you got the jab there? Like, "I didn't feel comfortable getting this injection in the USA, here's documentation i got in my home country".
I hope your coworker can get justice for being forced to get an unwanted medical procedure under duress.
I'm a US citizen. Flying into the country, and showing up at a port of entry from the inside isn't going to do much to get my wife across the boarder without a visa.
The CDC is doing more than "encouraging" it. They are still actively (trying to) FORCE green card applicants (like my wife) to get the jab. https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/panel-physicians/vaccinations.html#covid-19-vaccination
The last sentence gets cut off. The rest of that sentence is.
"and any other vaccinations against vaccine-preventable disease recommended by the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices"
They basically wrote a wildcard into the law that would allow them to dynamically update it based on recommendations. Here is the current page from the ACIP:
- https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/acip-recs/vacc-specific/covid-19.html
- https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7242e1.htm
And this is the current policy page that lists what the criteria for greencard applicants is:
This is a case where recommendations are being treated with the force of law. To my understanding this was ruled unconstitutional in West Virginia v EPA. Congress can not lend out the ability to make laws. Executive branch can make recommendations, congress then needs to vote those recommendations into law.
I could try to walk into the embassy and make a scene about how it's unconstitutional. I don't see that leading to an outcome where they say, "maybe you're right, here's your visa".
The main part of walking across the boarder is the logistics of not getting kidnapped by the cartel, not getting raped, not get robbed. The south side of the boarder is a dangerous place and I don't want to take the risk with my family.
"We don't know what it is, but we know it's definitely not the vaxx"