Can you elaborate? I think Greydle’s point is valid.
Them being stolen would not give the authorities lawful permission to go through the contents. As soon as the laptop was determined to be, say, Pelosi’s, it would need to be returned.
The fact of them being stolen alone does not give proper cause to inspect the contents.
The only loophole here would be if they did not know the owner of the stolen item, inspected its contents to determine an owner, and immediately encountered something illegal.
Then the contents could be searched and be admissible as evidence.
Well if their contents are copied or leaked while "stolen" then there's nothing they could refute legally there.
But im starting to rethink it after reading another anons comment about the stolen laptops being cover for the white hat clean up teams who then confiscated them with authority.
There is that as well, I did not see that the person Greydle originally responded to was not you haha. Saying that any information would be admissible as evidence in a military tribunal.
And they may be right, still. I know the legal system, but am less familiar with the rules of Military Justice.
It was necessary to stage an 'insurrection' so he could use the insurrection act. Plus, those that stormed the capitol were military patriots dressed as Antifa dressed as Trump MAGA supporters. Here:
"The raids are planned for this weekend and Monday. The military and the FBI are making them. Monday they will likely announce a temporary lockdown while they make arrests. This is going to happen quick. Trump doesn't have to do this by the 20th. He's already invoked the insurrection act. He can't be impeached now and Biden is no longer the president elect. Trump is the true winner and the military recognizes him as the commander. Trump has to get the declass and arrests going because the plan is to get this all done before the 18th. There will be a new election in March to cover all the Senate and House seats. The new VP will be Flynn. Pompeo will still be in power and a few others but Trump is gutting rid of his entire administration and hand picking a new one. Since we will only have maybe 10 members of the Senate and only 100 or so members of congressional left."
Part of me feels that the capital building instigation was started on command of Trump’s team. The Congress that evacuated was all arrested for any crimes they have done. Everything since 1/6 has been a movie to show the world how evil they would have gotten. They all had scripts where they obviously lied about Trump and his supporters. The way Democrats are treating it like nazis treated their capital fire and made Hitler a dictator with the enabling act is also part of their punishment. They must show the world how evil they would have been these 4 years, and fit it into <15 days. I believe Trump let them be authoritarian for lockdowns+stealing the election so we can see it for ourselves.
I can appreciate your line of thinking. I found that phrase odd as well. It takes courage to do nothing? ? ? Why? Also, he eluded to Pence doing nothing as if to plant the seed that 'he knows'...but if he knew then why go through the charade of the rest of the speech? He then carried on to say that doing nothing means you have to live with that decision forever...still doesn't equate to courage to me. Something strange there imo for sure...
The good guys knew that the traitors needed a flashpoint event, something they could point to as an excuse for their power overreach.
But it was all a set-up, the good guys were inserted with Antifa, the evidence was being collected, and at some point Pelosi's (and others) laptop was taken most likely as evidence of her crimes.
The traitors couldn't resist themselves, this was a perfect opportunity to paint Trump and his supporters as violent terrorists, nevermind the near year of Antifa/BLM riots/looting/murder.
Look at the messaging now. Trump supporters were violent, so Trump must be impeached. Fuck that, even normies can see that after this year that is complete and utter bullshit.
It's all part of getting the masses/normies on Trump's side.
Look at the online censorship that has gone full throttle in the last few days. People are noticing. People are realising this isn't good. People are finally waking up.
This is all to make it more publicly palatable when the good guys take over.
that does jive with the Q thing about how people need to be taken to the precipice for transformative change to happen
If Pence had done what Pres DJT was seemingly asking him to do - send it back to the state legislatures, and Pres. DJT got to a second term that way, we would kind of be in the same pickle as his first term - a political quagmire in which not much that needs to be accomplished can get accomplished
ideally there needed to be a way to clean the slate to be very clean and establish a baseline of thinking, that yeah we really do need to get serious and make our election system fair and rock solid (voter ID, etc)
none of that kind of stuff would be able to happen in a DJT 2nd term if he'd gotten there by one of these legal maneuvers, and then after his 2nd term, the political landscape would start to slide back to where it was and no one would arrive on the scene to deal with it
Think why Trump went on late and talked longer at his speech on the 6th.
The media and the traitors are trying to paint Trump as responsible for the "violence", yet at the time the Capitol was breached Trump was still on stage giving his speech.
This was a massive setup and the traitors fell for it completely. Their timing was screwed up because of Trump delaying and going longer in his speech.
Also GEOTUS said a few times to make sure everyone had cameras. He had to know the “spin” and wanted patriots to get evidence. Probably related to the CCP like censoring of all videos and accounts depicting what happened.
How do you trap a dangerous animal? Bait. Trump called his supporters to protest on the 6th(bait). Knowing the left could not resist and would infiltrate the movement, the military set up their own infiltration. they used the Trump supporters to bait and trap antifa and the Left. POTUS knew the enemy was there and didn't start his speech until well after the riot began. Anyone there to support Trump was listening to him speak.
Re: Pence, Pence is Judas (he had to be). Jesus Knew Judas would betray him. Judas knew his role. Pence could have done the EASY/Popular thing, what we all would have liked to see, and washed his hands of the whole thing and sent the decision back to the states. He was courageous because he did what WE didn't want him to do. This set up the DS to walk into the Last Trap and now they are caged trying frantically, everything they can to chew/thrash their way out. we have already won they just don't know it yet.
Re Read drops 523(3year Delta) to 609.
I have Read sooo much lately, and seen E.O.'s all over. I thought he had an E.O. regarding Antifa, or was it just a tweet? A Warning? Does Anyone remember seeing that?
Read earlier that Congress has been briefed by Capitol police that MAGA plans to come back for revenge for the vet being killed. I think Trump wanted to show them the #s we show up in to scare them into inviting the NG into DC and every capitol in the US. They invite them in then Trump takes control of them.
Distraction. The confiscation of laptops thing is real.
This. In a military tribunal, any information on those laptops is admissible evidence.
Nope. They were stolen.
Can you elaborate? I think Greydle’s point is valid.
Them being stolen would not give the authorities lawful permission to go through the contents. As soon as the laptop was determined to be, say, Pelosi’s, it would need to be returned.
The fact of them being stolen alone does not give proper cause to inspect the contents.
The only loophole here would be if they did not know the owner of the stolen item, inspected its contents to determine an owner, and immediately encountered something illegal.
Then the contents could be searched and be admissible as evidence.
Well if their contents are copied or leaked while "stolen" then there's nothing they could refute legally there.
But im starting to rethink it after reading another anons comment about the stolen laptops being cover for the white hat clean up teams who then confiscated them with authority.
There is that as well, I did not see that the person Greydle originally responded to was not you haha. Saying that any information would be admissible as evidence in a military tribunal.
And they may be right, still. I know the legal system, but am less familiar with the rules of Military Justice.
In any case, thank you for your response.
They likely had a sealed warrant.
They are government property.
Not in a military trial.
If the morons never left their laptops that would make it a failed mission.
That's true, but didn't people also get access to congressional offices and desktop computers?
Like he said, low hanging fruit.
This is my theory at the moment. The undercover patriots posing as antifa posing as patriots to seize evidence.
And DC and Capital allowed it all to unfold, knowingly or on blind faith. I'd assume faith.
It was necessary to stage an 'insurrection' so he could use the insurrection act. Plus, those that stormed the capitol were military patriots dressed as Antifa dressed as Trump MAGA supporters. Here:
"The raids are planned for this weekend and Monday. The military and the FBI are making them. Monday they will likely announce a temporary lockdown while they make arrests. This is going to happen quick. Trump doesn't have to do this by the 20th. He's already invoked the insurrection act. He can't be impeached now and Biden is no longer the president elect. Trump is the true winner and the military recognizes him as the commander. Trump has to get the declass and arrests going because the plan is to get this all done before the 18th. There will be a new election in March to cover all the Senate and House seats. The new VP will be Flynn. Pompeo will still be in power and a few others but Trump is gutting rid of his entire administration and hand picking a new one. Since we will only have maybe 10 members of the Senate and only 100 or so members of congressional left."
Part of me feels that the capital building instigation was started on command of Trump’s team. The Congress that evacuated was all arrested for any crimes they have done. Everything since 1/6 has been a movie to show the world how evil they would have gotten. They all had scripts where they obviously lied about Trump and his supporters. The way Democrats are treating it like nazis treated their capital fire and made Hitler a dictator with the enabling act is also part of their punishment. They must show the world how evil they would have been these 4 years, and fit it into <15 days. I believe Trump let them be authoritarian for lockdowns+stealing the election so we can see it for ourselves.
Might be something to that. It’s all been hyperbole on steroids.
Now imagine the raw force that would overwhelm any location should Trump be detained. Not just civilians and LEO.
I can appreciate your line of thinking. I found that phrase odd as well. It takes courage to do nothing? ? ? Why? Also, he eluded to Pence doing nothing as if to plant the seed that 'he knows'...but if he knew then why go through the charade of the rest of the speech? He then carried on to say that doing nothing means you have to live with that decision forever...still doesn't equate to courage to me. Something strange there imo for sure...
It was a trap for the traitors.
The good guys knew that the traitors needed a flashpoint event, something they could point to as an excuse for their power overreach.
But it was all a set-up, the good guys were inserted with Antifa, the evidence was being collected, and at some point Pelosi's (and others) laptop was taken most likely as evidence of her crimes.
The traitors couldn't resist themselves, this was a perfect opportunity to paint Trump and his supporters as violent terrorists, nevermind the near year of Antifa/BLM riots/looting/murder.
Look at the messaging now. Trump supporters were violent, so Trump must be impeached. Fuck that, even normies can see that after this year that is complete and utter bullshit.
It's all part of getting the masses/normies on Trump's side.
Look at the online censorship that has gone full throttle in the last few days. People are noticing. People are realising this isn't good. People are finally waking up.
This is all to make it more publicly palatable when the good guys take over.
This is all part of the plan.
that does jive with the Q thing about how people need to be taken to the precipice for transformative change to happen
If Pence had done what Pres DJT was seemingly asking him to do - send it back to the state legislatures, and Pres. DJT got to a second term that way, we would kind of be in the same pickle as his first term - a political quagmire in which not much that needs to be accomplished can get accomplished
ideally there needed to be a way to clean the slate to be very clean and establish a baseline of thinking, that yeah we really do need to get serious and make our election system fair and rock solid (voter ID, etc)
none of that kind of stuff would be able to happen in a DJT 2nd term if he'd gotten there by one of these legal maneuvers, and then after his 2nd term, the political landscape would start to slide back to where it was and no one would arrive on the scene to deal with it
Think why Trump went on late and talked longer at his speech on the 6th.
The media and the traitors are trying to paint Trump as responsible for the "violence", yet at the time the Capitol was breached Trump was still on stage giving his speech.
This was a massive setup and the traitors fell for it completely. Their timing was screwed up because of Trump delaying and going longer in his speech.
Lure the deep state into a trap.
I think Pence if he did wrong thing to force hands of H and S . He is good guy then but being dragged thru the mud.
Because those who were there saw what the media did first hand. The cowards wouldn't even show the whole crowd on TV but those there saw.
Also GEOTUS said a few times to make sure everyone had cameras. He had to know the “spin” and wanted patriots to get evidence. Probably related to the CCP like censoring of all videos and accounts depicting what happened.
cover for milops (e.g. pelosi's laptop), baiting congress to certify, justification for IA and more troops in dc if needed,
How do you trap a dangerous animal? Bait. Trump called his supporters to protest on the 6th(bait). Knowing the left could not resist and would infiltrate the movement, the military set up their own infiltration. they used the Trump supporters to bait and trap antifa and the Left. POTUS knew the enemy was there and didn't start his speech until well after the riot began. Anyone there to support Trump was listening to him speak. Re: Pence, Pence is Judas (he had to be). Jesus Knew Judas would betray him. Judas knew his role. Pence could have done the EASY/Popular thing, what we all would have liked to see, and washed his hands of the whole thing and sent the decision back to the states. He was courageous because he did what WE didn't want him to do. This set up the DS to walk into the Last Trap and now they are caged trying frantically, everything they can to chew/thrash their way out. we have already won they just don't know it yet. Re Read drops 523(3year Delta) to 609.
I have Read sooo much lately, and seen E.O.'s all over. I thought he had an E.O. regarding Antifa, or was it just a tweet? A Warning? Does Anyone remember seeing that?
They were supposed to be declared a domestic terrorist organization. I don't know if that was ever "finalized".
THAT is Right...I wonder IF that is another HOLE Card?
It could be. Stay alert!
TRAP
Read earlier that Congress has been briefed by Capitol police that MAGA plans to come back for revenge for the vet being killed. I think Trump wanted to show them the #s we show up in to scare them into inviting the NG into DC and every capitol in the US. They invite them in then Trump takes control of them.