I am relatively new to Q. Savannah Gutherie’s attack on the President made my antennae prick up and the Friday after the election I found the Q Proofs video. Since then I have been trying to catch up and have read a lot of the Q posts. War Games is still one of my favorite movies so the “Shall We Play A Game” references caught my eye. I just counted and there are 15 instances of that phrase.
I was an Air Force officer as was my husband. I think that Biden will be inaugurated on the 20th. My husband says it can’t happen as at that point Biden is Commander in Chief and has full control of the military and then it’s game over and nothing can be done – the country is done. But does Biden (or eventually Harris) really have control?
The other Q posts that caught my eye are the 3 “precipice” ones. Here’s just one:
“Only then, at the precipice, will people find the will the change [to participate].”
I’ve been arguing with my husband that the precipice will have to be an illegally elected President in order to get the people to see and understand that they have to participate in our Constitutional Republic. I know that since no Cabinet members have been confirmed for Biden yet, there will be 4 (yet to be announced) Trump Cabinet members that will be part of the Biden Cabinet on the 20th.
Gaming this out and with hints from President Trump, I see Biden getting the 25th Amendment treatment. Harris cannot be President due to natural born citizen requirement but how is she forced out at that point? The Supreme Court can’t be counted on to rule. Harris has control of the military at this point. Assume she orders them to do anything. That is an unlawful order and no one in the military can obey. (Also true while Biden is President.) It’s a standoff. Now what? How do the Patriots remain in control throughout all this, for sure? I know all scenarios have been gamed out and thought of by Q and the team. But do we see a way for the people to participate and force out an unlawful President?
Again, going back to Q posts, “The only way is the military. Fully controlled.” Do we know that the military will step in to deal with this “domestic” threat? I expect “yes” but we don’t know. Normally an officer is expected to resign rather than accept an unlawful order. Additionally, now the National Guard and Marines report directly to the President at that point. Q has told us that the current President holds all the power. It won’t be “us” at that point. So how do we definitively win?
What are the potential scenarios that get us past the precipice without disaster? What say you? Help me convince my husband that Biden can be inaugurated and we can still keep our country! (Note – it will have to be a very well-reasoned argument as he can poke holes in almost anything!)
First, welcome aboard. I've been on this rocky up-and-down ride since Dec. '17 and have learned that, for me, while I have followed the Q movement closely and saw all the bots and shills trying to discredit this movement, and holding on to a slim bit of "grounding" skepticism, have come down to this in these latter days... I'm about 96% convinced this is a real movement.
I too was in the military, although it seems now to have been during the Jurassic period, and like others here, my oath to serve our country and our Constitution did not have an expiration date. I consider it still active and wait only to be called on, if that becomes part of the plan. That sentiment has been expressed here more times than you can imagine.
As to the plan and scenarios that could play out? ... well, if we were to know, the opposition would know. As you know, military plans aren't revealed ahead of time, but deception and disinformation is encouraged. I wish I could give you a more definitive answer, but like all of us, you will have to wait to see how it turns out.
We've been told over the past 3+ years that it will be "Biblical" and we've been told that "the military is the only way." If you look at what is going on in DC right now, the prison-like lay of the land there, 25,000 troops controlling the streets and entry-egress points, something odd is going on. Something we've never seen before in our "peaceful transitions of power" that is the pride of the American way.
But in truth, we HAVE seen this before, back in the Civil War, when DC was a Federal armed district. The line in "Battle Hymn of the Republic" that says, "I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps" was written by the composer after seeing all the campfires of the troops encircling DC during that time.
POTUS tells us "The best is yet to come..." All I can do is trust that and remain watchful. I am grateful that I (and you and your husband, and all of us anons) am alive to witness this great moment in history.
Thank you! This is such an awesome response! We too are from the Jurassic period as you say :) At this point I am trusting God and praying that Q and team pull this off. I am much too trusting and have more faith than my husband, however. The 20th will be a hard day for him (and others we know) if Biden is inaugurated. Which is why I wrote the post...
God also said al life seeking knowledge is one inherently filled with sorrow.
God has given you a bunch of fucking knowledge.
There will be 80 million pissed off patriots and at least half that Q supporters(Americans)who will be furious as we've been told the military is the only way. Now President Trump did send out that video telling us not to take to the streets with violence. Is he saying that because Joe won't be sworn in and antifa will riot or is he saying that because Joe will be sworn and it will look real but in reality it will be part of the movie and he wants us to know it will be alright?
If Biden will be inaugurated, I don't think I'll grasp at straws to keep on faith.
My faith will be gone.
As it should be because its over. Afraid the longer it goes the more thats the reality
I believe the correct term is “black-pilled”.
The world is watching very closely. I think everyone knows what’s at stake. My oath never expires either. It’s harder for the youth to grasp the stakes when they were raised by the tube, video games, phones glued to their faces and their generation of peers selling their souls online for insta-gratification? The Great Awakening in a big way, for me has been the awareness of a lifetime’s exposure to lies and liars. I abhor it. I’ve been strengthened as a whole meeting the minds of fellow Truthers here during this whole experience. At the same time watching friends and loved ones sink deeper into the abyss of lies. As we grow older with experience and a knowledge of history we see what it takes to keep our roots strong. The tree of liberty’s roots must be kept strong.
I posted this further down the thread but wanted to respond directly to your theory. I do think you are asking a fair question and shouldn't be shunned for entertaining rather... unpalatable scenarios.
It certainly would not be "swift and clean" as Q promised in this hypothetical plan. Look at all the times in history when you had multiple popes. It was utter chaos for Europe.
Not saying it can't happen, but it would be needlessly painful if that were the case. It would be needless because we have more than enough evidence for a myriad of crimes these monsters have committed, many of which deserve the death penalty. There would be no need to cross that bridge.
Just commenting the Ellipse that his last speech was given at, was a place that held troops during the Civil War. We literally stood on the same grounds.
Whoa.
That's an epic response.
Damn, lets hope we see Him in what is about to transpire. Lets hope it will be biblical. So amazing to think about it. Lets hope it happens!
Reading this entire thread has warmed my heart.
FEMA currently run buy a Marine plays a key part in this game. Under a state of emergency they have unbelievable power. Combine that with the military and an illegitimate president and you have game over.
What kinda power? Where can I read up on this?
That's a terrifying amount of power. It makes me uncomfortable. So here's praying that the head FEMA dude is a good guy.
Yes it is. I don't like anyone having that much power. Absolute power...you know the thing.
The DS was planning this all along ? This Fema crap has always scared me. Imagine what would happen to all of us Trump supporters if Biden is the one to use this insurrection act. Did you pay attention to all the remarks by the dems. That would be the only way to get everyone who disagrees with them. Scares me half to death. I'm 71 so it wouldn't last long for me.
Here you go:
https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/stafford-act_2019.pdf
Edit: How can the executive branch or a president have so much power under a national emergency? This comes from the "unitary executive theory", argued by Alexander Hamilton in, "Federalist Paper 77 – The Appointing Power Continued and Other Powers of the Executive Considered":
https://thefederalistpapers.org/federalist-paper-77
They can suspend the Bill of rights kinda power.
All the power.
Here is a good place to start your research https://greatawakening.win/search?params=FEMA+
I don't want Biden sworn in. Others on here in recent days seemed to think it would get to that point so I decided to try out the "what if" myself.
As if you won't come have some bullshit fantasy ready when he does
I can't help you - I agree with your husband. If Biden becomes president, the only option left would be a full-on military coup. That would result in a lot of needless deaths of both civilian and military.
I don't think Trump would want that. The cleanest op is rounding them up en masse in private or in public just before the inauguration, followed by 24 hours of live evidence broadcast.
Anyone who still wants to take to the streets and riot after the evidence has been presented will be shot on sight - no more placating the violent left.
The American military is operating under constitutional authority, and is occupying the foreign soil of DC.
This is Trump's way of letting the Crown and the Vatican know that their service corporations (Federal and Municipal) need to stand down or face liquidation.
http://www.annavonreitz.com/noticetocongress.pdf
I heard FEMA has control. Which changes everything. FEMA operates above the Constitution
Nothing is above the Constitution and yet, somehow, this was put in place. Anything contrary to the Constitution is null and void, Marbury v Madison.
So Biden will be inaugurated under the bankrupt defuncted USA and Trump will become President of the new USA.
This has been a running theory for a couple days now, yes. My favorite part about it is the fact that China gets to eat the majority of our debt when we switch to a new, gold standard currency
If Biden is ever inaugurated come january 20th, then it will be under all of the very same legal mechanisms and symbols Trump was, and he will govern from under the same roof Trump did. My point is that It's ludicrous to claim that if Biden is ever inaugurated then it will be under a different imaginary structure while Trump gets to govern another different imaginary structure.
IF Biden is sworn in, it's game over.
Why is this stickied?
Why are we trying to convince that it's ok for Biden to get sworn in?
I think this is a questionable post, and again, I know we got new people coming in, but we should have some caution with ALL handshake accounts.
Some of the recent stickies here are highly questionable.
I am who I say I am. This is a debate I've been having at home after I saw others on here and longtime anons on Twitter (now Gab) hint that it may happen. I was trying to prepare myself for the idea that Biden could be sworn in and steeling myself to deal with momentary disappointment. I have faith but I like being informed as much as I can!
I do not see a scenario where Biden can or will be inaugurated. I do not believe that those who have sworn an oath to the constitution would permit such corruption & in fact they have an obligation to prevent such corruption.
We KNOW the election was stolen, see Navarro’s reports.
Anyone who has sworn an oath to the Constitution that ratifies Biden’s stolen election has, without question, committed treason, I am sure I don’t need to tell you, that is no joke.
It is one thing to give bad people enough rope to hang themselves, (e.g. everything before after Election Day that was improper).
It is a distinctly different thing to participate in that corruption and treason, it simply cannot happen.
Therefore, I am of the opinion that under no circumstances will he be inaugurated.
That is not to say he won’t attempt to be inaugurated with the help of Justice Roberts (who seems co Promised), but such effort again, cannot be ratified by those who are honest.
I believe between now and then, they’ll sort things out and this episode will come to an end and our country will embrace the challenge of picking up the pieces beginning anew in light of the truth.
^^^This is what makes the most sense:
It is a distinctly different thing to participate in that corruption and treason, it simply cannot happen.
Good thing nobody needs your ok for him to.take the oath of office then
Socialists never pay up. They're thieves.
My understanding of 'precipice' is to be right on the edge of something.
If Biden is sworn in doesn't he immediately have the protection of the office?
Does he gain that protection if he was illegally installed? I don't know - something else to research...
Sure why not? If nobody does anything about it.
And if someone had power to do something about it, they could do it before the trophy ceremony.
I wouldn't try to convince your husband of that because I don't agree. I'm willing to accept the Q proofs and trust the plan to a point, but letting the Chinese puppet take the crown would be a bridge too far. If that happens you guys can stay here and keep playing the game, but I'm out.
If Biden is inaugurated, it's over. It can't be allowed to happen. Anyone telling you otherwise is kidding themselves.
Biden gets POTUS, it's Rook to B4, Check Mate.
It's like Sauron joining the rings. Insert token and try again to either cheat more the next election or do the same thing the commies have been doing the last 40 years and infiltrate accordingly.
This is Dopium.
Not my intent. I DO NOT want Biden to get inaugurated. But others seemed to think it may happen so I was gaming it out with my husband. I was preparing myself for the possibility that it could happen and if it did, then what?
if nothing happens by 1/21/21 its over. but it doesnt look like that will be the case
if the plan requires Biden to be sworn in as president then what would have been the difference from springing the trap in 2016 with a Hillary president?
I didn't think it was possible for Trump to win in 2016 simply because of fraud, I had seen so much corruption in both parties I'd thought we we're done for since W.
Trump had to be elected to give real world hope.
I believe you are correct. But my belief is that once Biden is inaugurated, the hammer will immediately fall on all of the traitors. So what happens then. If we assume that Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer and McConnel are ‘arrested’, the next position on the CoC will be.....drumroll......Pompeo!! The Sec of State position requires Presidential appointment and Senate confirmation. Pompeo has been in political arena for years, and has also made plenty of connections traveling the world. It would be as smooth as a baby’s bottom to take the Presidential reins.
This theory is probably sooooo far off, but I will stick to it until I see otherwise.
....he will be commander-in-chief, and Trump will cease to be.
Next in line is Grassley, not Pompeo
Next in line after Pence and Pelosi is the president pro tempore of the Senate, Chuck Grassley. I believe he is a true patriot, so he may be interim President.
However, I believe he'll decline due to only a handful of Senators left (the rest having been arrested), and it'll be Pompeo as interim president.
Participate in what? Every call to action has yielded tremendous participation. We had more voter participation last year than ever in history. What participation is currently lacking that Q has not actively discouraged?
I disagree with your reasoning. I believe the the past two-month period, particularly Jan 6th, was already the "precipice." What makes you think these criminals won't let Harris (with her superior alibi of being born in Oakland, CA) become president when they gave us an illegitimate Kenyan for 8 years? If Biden is inaugurated, I'm fearful that a number of states will secede and militias like the Oath Keepers will lead a full-blown revolution. Trump & the military must act on or before the 20th to preserve the union.
About the 25th amendment: don't forget that Trump said that on the wall speech a few days ago. Maybe there is some sense in all this, he said that it will haunt Joe Biden.
At noon on Jan 20th Trump's first term ends and his second begins. A fraudulent election is invalid. Biden won't ever be on the list of our Presidents.
That's exactly right.
If you're not planning kids, double-check the condoms he's using, Madam.
Very clever :)
As "The Husband" of hP, Up Voted you for an awesome funny!
But that horse is WELL out of the BARN (pun intended). I only shoots blanks at this point....
These questions are important to ask without getting the "doomer" insults. We have absolutely no idea what is really going on behind the scenes and what the future holds. I can think of a current scenario that somewhat may match the idea of 2 Presidents.
There is a small faction in the Church that thinks that Francis is not actually the Pope and does not have the protection of office but that Benedict XVI is the true Pope. You literally have 2 people in Rome who act like the Pope, look like the Pope, but there can only be one Pope while the other is the imposter. The reason is that Francis is such a frkn heretic and teaches so many errors, is a globalist, a communist, and is NOT A CATHOLIC. Also, it is argued that the resignation of BXVI back in 2013 was invalid for not conforming to the requirements of Canon Law. Maybe there can be a kind of mirroring going on where you have the duly elected president (Trump) and the fake president (Biden).
Kinda echoes of Christ and anti-christ also.
It certainly would not be "swift and clean" as Q promised in that scenario. Look at all the times in history when you had multiple popes. It was utter chaos for Europe.
Not saying it can't happen but it would be needlessly painful if that were the case. It would be needless because we have more than enough evidence for a myriad of crimes these monsters have committed, many of which deserve the death penalty. There would be no need to cross that bridge.
That's true. The situation in the Church is anything but clean. One of the benefits is that it clearly exposes the unclean and putrid swamp in the Church that has metastasized in the Vatican. If nothing happens on 1/20 and Biden gets inaugurated while Trump rides quietly off into the sunset, then yeah we have to start asking some very hard questions and being honest with ourselves. With that being said, I'm still fairly confident and I do believe that Q is legit and things will start happening before 1/20 rather than later.
ROLL UP THOSE SLEEVES, WE HAVE A GOALPOST TO MOVE!
"Biden being inaugurated is part of the plan!"
Cut that shit out. People have seen enough to want Trump to act, seriously. Anyone advocating that allowing Biden/Harris to take and hold power is part of the problem. Have faith until the 20th, but after Trump is out, all bets are off.
Husband here.... Yep, I'm married to this awesome, intelligent and thoughtful woman.
But I do blame her for bringing me into this Q stuff - which I am thankful for. If I wasn't aware of this, as she says, 'I'd probably be apoplectic now.'
I just want to say how proud I am of her. Her VERY FIRST POST here within minutes of getting her account was not only 'stickied' but has over 100 comments and almost 500 Up Votes!
As if both of them aren't you
Good to The last drop: Durham
https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/14/john-durham-expanding-investigation-trump-russia/ If he’s ‘expanding’ investigation as of a month ago, why bother if he isn’t going to release it.
His investigation will be the evidence broadcast to the people.
I had similar suspicions and thoughts. We already know the mainstream media has psy-opted into people’s minds that Kamala will replace Joe Biden. It is already accepted by liberals that this is very possible. They have already been conditioned to prepare for it. I do not think the mainstream media would have conditioned them if this was not the case.
But I’m also trying to understand why the plan would require Biden to be inaugurated. It doesn’t make sense.
Are we not at the precipice already? Have we not reached our limits? Has the stage not been set? All eyes on on the 20th. I do not believe this is a coincidence. The mainstream media and Q wants our eyes there.
What is it that we are missing? When our attention is usually diverted, is when other things go down.
I would be rather demoralized when Biden is inaugurated and still trust the plan, but from my research, it’s difficult for me to understand why its necessary. But it seems like signs are pointing to that it will happen.
Good luck with moving on with your life. As I understand it, we will be hunted and destroyed in any way they're able. Guaranteed POTUS will be destroyed along with his family and businesses. Our country will become a totally satanic playground for pedophiles, traffickers, all hope of anything good will be gone. The people that HidinBiden thinks will be in his cabinet are some of the very worst of the dregs of humanity. I'd expect to either see the majority of the American people give up and give in OR it will be a bloodbath. I think that are a lot of people who will not give up.
What if the United States of America, Inc. is now being bankrupted and the New charter being written up. Biden gets inaugurated under the defuncted USA that ended 1/20/21 and Trump is inaugurated as the 1st President of the New USA. Checkmate! which btw is the name of the company who installed the fencing.
Its the in-between that needs to be colored in for me. Biden under USA, Inc. and Trump USA. What has been occurring for you to believe that will happen.
We DO have a right to the government we want. How to do that without war? And Trump HATES war.
Remember Hillary saying, "He's going to try and stay in the White House after the 20th."
I think she's 100% right.
GuvnaSalty,
Awesome Post! I'm the hubby of horseyPatriot. At one point I did go talk to ya'll about being an ART. As horsey stated, I flew UH-1Ns at Zaragoza Spain (67 ARRS / SOS) then at Vandyland with the 37 ARRS. Wound up flying Pavehawks at 66th. Thanks for your service! Wonder if we ever crossed paths. We're not far from the Space Coast.
And yes, very interesting times. LOTS of circumstantial evidence that the Q stuff is legit.
I'm thinking that 2021 is going to be an even more interesting year than 2020. As you say, Check Six, and Keep Your Powder Dry.
Go Jollys!!!!!
Thank you for the reply as well!
And yeppers on not doxing ourselves. Wasn't gonna.
Patriots ARE standing by.
Rest assured, we are fully 'good to go'. Similar situation as you describe.
Blessings to you! We met at Vandenberg AFB, also in the Gipper era. I would now be in the Space Force with the job I had back then! The other half was a Huey, then Blackhawk pilot and we know all about the 920th Air Rescue Wing :)
If so much wasn't at stake, I would really love watching this movie. Keeping the faith and doing lots of praying here!
President/the Military cannot allow Biden to become President. Period.
I really appreciate you thoughts and opinion. One thing I’d point about though is that Kamala IS a Natural Born Citizen. Yes she is what was once referred to as an “Anchor Baby”, being that neither of her parents were US citizens when she was born. But she was born in Oakland, CA, and there are official records.
The way that is interpreted in modern days, is that she herself is considered a natural born citizen, meaning if Biden has a Stoke or has a heart attack, and passes, she can indeed take the office of the Presidency.
I don’t like it, because I can’t stand her, or her fake laugh, or her stupid face... but I’d like us all to keep both boots firmly on the ground.
That’s not to say that we won’t have an inauguration for Xao Baijen and Kamala Toe.. but if we do, and Trump had already covertly place some form of insurgency protection or martial law into effect, we could be living in a situation where the media and most regular people who take their fake news as gospel all believe JB is president, when in actuality the president would still be DT or the Secretary of State or high ranked military brass. If you I ask me, after the election, the latter would be the far more Constitutionally legitimate leader, and with military backing, there wouldn’t be any contest. He’s simply have DC annexed and place Joe and Kamala into custody while military tribunals determine if they were part of, or complacent in the plans to steal the presidency via election fraud, coercion, illegally altering voting rules, and conspiring with foreign actors to hurt, remove, alter, or fake Donald Trump’s voting numbers.
With neither of her parents being American citizens, HeelsUpHarris is NOT a natural born citizen and can never be president. Learn what a natural born citizen is and why it's important.
I’m well aware, as I stated. You need to learn how the courts and government TREATS people in today’s day and age who’s parents were not citizens. She herself is still granted the same benefits in life in the USA as if she was indeed a natural born citizen.
I did my research before stating so. She can take the Presidential office if they want her to. I disagree with it, and I don’t personally feel she should be considered natural born. But how you or I feel doesn’t matter to the rule benders.
See the other response from horseyPatriot also stating that I am correct with a link to the breakdown of how it works.
So you are correct. I had heard previously that she wasn't due to her parents not being citizens. I just read William Jacobson's article summarizing the research and conclusions he had done when considering the topic for Rubio, Cruz, and McCain. You can find it here:
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/08/natural-born-citizen-kamala-harris
It is an interesting read!
Yeah thanks for that link. I read similar and was actually pretty disturbed by it. I personally feel that the statement in our constitution requiring the President to be a Natural Born Citizen, was specifically aimed at making sure the person taking the highest office of the land was from the land and brought up by the land. But that’s just my interpretation. The founding fathers should have been more specific.
I do think she couldn’t be President as recently as 1980, but constitutional law bends over time, and is interpreted more liberally. I strongly disagree with it, but I’d bet every cent in my bank account that she can hold that office if they cheat Joe in and move him to elder care shortly after. I’m praying that Trump already invoked the insurrection act or a similar use of martial law in secret with our top military brass. Truth is, if the Q drops are wrong, then there is an astounding amount of coincidences that are borderline unexplainable.
Look at the June 4th post calling the precipice the "moment of destruction"