virtually every attorney alive today (unless he/she were 100 years old) hasn't a clue about this.
If every single attorney alive today, including every jurist, judge, prosecutor, etc. is unaware of this system of law, it seems like a fairly safe bet that this system of law is not in effect.
Particularly since whenever this comes up, the courts dismiss it as nonsense.
Well, no, because the law, practically speaking, is what the body of lawyers wind up doing. It's an activity. You can claim that every single lawyer in the United States is implementing the wrong legal system, but that doesn't change the fact that there is a legal system in effect, which is not the legal system you're describing.
What it is for a legal system to be in effect is for it to be upheld by the courts, etc.
Bingo. To me things could be fixed tonight or not for 50+ years (if ever). Things have become so corrupt and perverted that anything is possible with enough people drinking the same kool aid.
OK, but theoretically ... they wake up one day and realize that they are being foreclosed on the $30trillion, that we are liberated from, they wont be practicing that law anymore
I can only assume this is a reference to the national debt. If the United States wants to default on its debt, it can of course do so. That doesn't require the existing system of law to be thrown out. Nor are any of these eccentric claims about admiralty law, etc. necessary.
No, there are many things I am, but dense certainly isn't one of them.
the "lawyers" you speak of are a part of a satanic guild and are sworn to uphold whatever the fuck their masters say to uphold? there is no law in this country - it's defunct. the "law" is whatever the fuck "lawyers" say it is because we are a "lawless" country based on a set of "laws for thee but not for me"
Well, that's patently silly. We have a fairly predictable system of law emerging from the interaction of the common law with statute law, with the broad fines of the constitution and its accepted jurisprudence.
you're arguing semantics when you can trace back maritime law
No, the history of American law doesn't even remotely resemble whatever you think has happened. Maritime law isn't in effect in standard US courts; the system I describe above is. Maritime law is a body of law, but it's largely irrelevant. The claim that the common law was usurped early in the twentieth century doesn't even begin to make sense; we still share the same original body of common law with the UK and other Commonwealth countries whose common law derives from older English common law.
since the beginning of time there has always been a separate class of laws for peasants (aka YOU) and a set for the elite (aka THEM)
Well, by any reasonable (or unreasonable) definition of 'elite', I qualify; you might be a "peasant", but I'm certainly not one. None of that, however, bears upon the fact that your legal claims are misfounded.
You mean the same "body of lawyers" and judges that so conveniently refused to even listen to any lawsuits in the past 2 months? Those "lawyers in the know"? Entire legal system was shown as wrong, all the way up to SCOTUS. Entire legal system today is what DS says it is.
It's not an invalid argument; it's a straightforward claim that a system of law that is not recognized by the courts of a nation is, ipso facto, not the system of law in effect in that nation.
Not trying to be a dick, but just watch “sovereign citizen” videos on YouTube. Most of the people trying to play that hand usually end up getting their cars towed and a “free ride” to jail. Not saying you are necessarily wrong in your thinking and I know sovereign citizen is a little different than what you are talking about but the concept is the same. If the courts don’t play along, ya got no chance.
Not the same argument. The courts dismiss the argument that people make stating the presence of the gold fringed flag means the constitution is suspended. They make this argument as if this will negate all of the courts positions. All Cognac is brandy but not all brandy is cognac. All military courts under martial law fly the gold fringed flag but not all courts with the gold fringed flag are under martial law.
Can you provide a single citation to the actual case law or the published law review literature on martial law establishing that a gold-fringed flag in a military court attests the presence of martial law?
Yes, because of course if we are saying the courts are running under admiralty law, to justify their overreach and confiscation of our $$$ via statutes, ordinances, and sanctions, they are going to say "you got it, you solved the riddle! Here's all your parking ticket and speeding fines back. Heres your permit fees to put a toilet in your basement back. Sorry, no hard feelings, huh?"
Since that has not happened, then this is all just made up nonsense.
I have no idea why you think the courts are running under 'admiralty law'. Nothing about the system of law in general effect, which combines the common law tradition we share with Britain and some commonwealth countries with statute law and the Constitution has much to do with admiralty law.
via statutes
By definition, statutory law is... statute law.
I don't think you understand what admiralty law is.
If every single attorney alive today, including every jurist, judge, prosecutor, etc. is unaware of this system of law, it seems like a fairly safe bet that this system of law is not in effect.
Particularly since whenever this comes up, the courts dismiss it as nonsense.
Well, no, because the law, practically speaking, is what the body of lawyers wind up doing. It's an activity. You can claim that every single lawyer in the United States is implementing the wrong legal system, but that doesn't change the fact that there is a legal system in effect, which is not the legal system you're describing.
What it is for a legal system to be in effect is for it to be upheld by the courts, etc.
Bingo. To me things could be fixed tonight or not for 50+ years (if ever). Things have become so corrupt and perverted that anything is possible with enough people drinking the same kool aid.
OK, but theoretically ... they wake up one day and realize that they are being foreclosed on the $30trillion, that we are liberated from, they wont be practicing that law anymore
I can only assume this is a reference to the national debt. If the United States wants to default on its debt, it can of course do so. That doesn't require the existing system of law to be thrown out. Nor are any of these eccentric claims about admiralty law, etc. necessary.
No, there are many things I am, but dense certainly isn't one of them.
Well, that's patently silly. We have a fairly predictable system of law emerging from the interaction of the common law with statute law, with the broad fines of the constitution and its accepted jurisprudence.
No, the history of American law doesn't even remotely resemble whatever you think has happened. Maritime law isn't in effect in standard US courts; the system I describe above is. Maritime law is a body of law, but it's largely irrelevant. The claim that the common law was usurped early in the twentieth century doesn't even begin to make sense; we still share the same original body of common law with the UK and other Commonwealth countries whose common law derives from older English common law.
Well, by any reasonable (or unreasonable) definition of 'elite', I qualify; you might be a "peasant", but I'm certainly not one. None of that, however, bears upon the fact that your legal claims are misfounded.
I noticed that Judge Roy Bean no longer practices.
Yeah but one of my favorite roller coasters ever, Judge Roy Scream, is still running!
He was called the “Hanging Judge” and the “Law West of the Pecos”. Been to Langtry, TX a few times. ?
Black or Pinto?
(Sorry. Dumb.)
Why did that body forget the constitution during election tho?
You mean the same "body of lawyers" and judges that so conveniently refused to even listen to any lawsuits in the past 2 months? Those "lawyers in the know"? Entire legal system was shown as wrong, all the way up to SCOTUS. Entire legal system today is what DS says it is.
Invalid argument. Thanks for a good laugh.
It's not an invalid argument; it's a straightforward claim that a system of law that is not recognized by the courts of a nation is, ipso facto, not the system of law in effect in that nation.
Not trying to be a dick, but just watch “sovereign citizen” videos on YouTube. Most of the people trying to play that hand usually end up getting their cars towed and a “free ride” to jail. Not saying you are necessarily wrong in your thinking and I know sovereign citizen is a little different than what you are talking about but the concept is the same. If the courts don’t play along, ya got no chance.
Dale yeah!!!
Not the same argument. The courts dismiss the argument that people make stating the presence of the gold fringed flag means the constitution is suspended. They make this argument as if this will negate all of the courts positions. All Cognac is brandy but not all brandy is cognac. All military courts under martial law fly the gold fringed flag but not all courts with the gold fringed flag are under martial law.
Can you provide a single citation to the actual case law or the published law review literature on martial law establishing that a gold-fringed flag in a military court attests the presence of martial law?
Maybe referring to this https://t.me/linwoodspeakstruth/121
That link was taken down I think
no. no one can. it's fan fiction. I want to believe but without sauce it's just flim-flam.
Yes, because of course if we are saying the courts are running under admiralty law, to justify their overreach and confiscation of our $$$ via statutes, ordinances, and sanctions, they are going to say "you got it, you solved the riddle! Here's all your parking ticket and speeding fines back. Heres your permit fees to put a toilet in your basement back. Sorry, no hard feelings, huh?"
Since that has not happened, then this is all just made up nonsense.
I have no idea why you think the courts are running under 'admiralty law'. Nothing about the system of law in general effect, which combines the common law tradition we share with Britain and some commonwealth countries with statute law and the Constitution has much to do with admiralty law.
By definition, statutory law is... statute law.
I don't think you understand what admiralty law is.