Dominion sues Guiliani for defamation.
Any intentional false communication, either written or spoken, that harms a person's reputation; decreases the respect, regard, or confidence in which a person is held; or induces disparaging, hostile, or disagreeable opinions or feelings against a person.
They will have to prove that somehow and Guiliani will be able to defend himself. How would he do that?
By presenting and hopefully proving the validity of his claims, i.e. proving that his communication wasn't false, i.e. that voter fraud indeed has occured.
Just a hunch, but makes a lot more sense than presenting the evidence at the Trump impeachment.
Discovery takes at least 4 years...voter fraud evidence will come out in the impeachment hearings sooner then that.
How do you know that it's 4 years?
Impeachment will revolve around 1/6 and Trump's involvement. When and how would they be able to present the evidence during that? Senate would rather let it slip into a total shit show than allowing Trump's team to present that evidence in a comprehensible manner. Never forget: Just presenting the evidence doesn't mean much. People have to understand and agree with it.
Just don't see it happen, sorry.
As ”fighting for the truth about voter fraud” is part of the accusation about inciting violence, Trump can prove this fight was valid by presenting the evidence.
True - although, where is your quote from? - they included his general stance on the election results.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-resolution/24/text
Sorry, it is not an actuall quote, I could have been clearer.
Ah, that kind of qutation marks. Got it; no worries. :)
First off, its ELECTION fraud, not voter fraud, there is a huge difference.
Second, and I keep pointing this out for days now, do yourself a solid and read Senate impeachment rules at least ONCE. Then stop propagating the myth of Senate somehow allowing Trump to present ANY election fraud evidence in the proceedings. Senate sets the rules, and ONLY Senate. Controlled to the minute of who does what. And they are also the ones who can set MORE such rules as they seem fit. The Constitution ONLY describes Senate holding a trial for a PRESIDENT, not an ex-President. Law broken already, clearly. See anyone there paying attention to that? MAIN reason it doesn't make any difference if a SCOTUS judge presides or even you, such a person is simply there as an observer, and NOTHING else. Final vote to convict is the only thing that matters, nothing else. 67 Yays required. You seriously think they will not break any other laws in their zeal to hold this already unlawful trial? You see anyone stopping them?
This impeachment is only over one particular charge, incitement for riot. Nothing else will be allowed to be discussed nor presented, only the Trump's call for the Jan. 6 gathering in D.C. and some VERY carefully selected by Commiegress words in his speech that day. Nothing else.
Stop getting your and others' hopes high for the impeachment somehow to be the "It" thing, it is not. It WILL show the rats in Commiegoress ignoring the law, but nothing more than that. And still failing to convict. For the second time, for the same person. They have been pissing on the Constitution forever now, it seems, the only benefit, so to speak, is turn some still on the fence to our side after watching to shit show. Or one would hope so, at the least.
Read the Senate impeachment rules. ~20 pages, and only 4-5 that are really relevant to the discussion.
I posted last night that I count only 5 GOPe rats ready to convict, seems I missed 2 more: McConnell (though still on the fence as he plays this game out), Romney, Murkovsky, Sasse, Collins, Portman (retiring and doesn't care, hates Trump), Toomney (retiring and also hates Trump). Commigress still need to find 10 more traitors, and they are well short right now. VP cannot vote.
Ask a good attorney to explain the difference to you, I am tired of all the know it alls offering an opinion on subjects that are way outside their domain.
Also, read Senate impeachment rules. What you, and I, and everyone else here want is not how things work in Senate impeachment, its mind blowing to see so many legends in their minds mouthing off without ever reading the rules.
Your point?
You're not listing anything that I haven't seen already. I keep pointing out, for days now, that this entire shit show is ILLEGAL, by LAW, even traitor Roberts agrees. And yet, here we are. They piss on law, openly and frequently, for decades now. Have no idea why everyone is overlooking that.
Yes, we all hope that Trump was sworn in at some point in January. But until I see confirmation of that I have to go by what I see in front of me. Senate trial will happen, I truly believe they have no votes to convict, but then again I truly believed that we won't see Zhou Bai Den's inauguration, either. Recorded or not.
Voter fraud covers fraudulent acts by the voters. I.e. voting twice, voting pursuant to a fake ID showing they were 18, etc.
Election Fraud covers things like Ballot tampering, altering the count, falsifying Ballots, falsifying registration information, Ballot curing without oversight by the other Party, etc.
Yea, that's the problem I see with this strategy. These lawsuits tend to take forever. That's why so many "settle" even if they actually have a good case. It's just too expensive, both financially and time wise, to justify pursuing.
I think that's meant to be funny/smart. 4 years as in 4 years of Biden presidency.
Does anyone know when the trial date is? I did a quick search but didn’t find it.
It’s scheduled to begin on Feb. 8, but I’m hoping General Flynn’s “Done in 30” tweet will kick in before then! ??????
https://share.icloud.com/photos/0pMoKX4-4LOm8v29FSq_UD0NQ
The problem is it's not a 'real' lawsuit. They got the headline already so they'll quietly kill it in a few months.
The accusation is all they care about. It's SEO so any time someone googles Rudy's name this is what will come up.
As much as I dislike the thought, you do make a good point.
I haven't decided what to think about the fact that Dominion has filed that suit, in the first place. They must have had the same thought (as me), somewhere along the line. Doesn't it matter, after all; am I missing something else? Do they (think they) have a counter-strategy? (Premise being that your thought isn't correct, ofc)
I agree, once the discovery stage starts, Dominion will quietly drop the case and the mockingbird media will bury the story. Dominion is merely filling these cases for the headlines knowing the media will play along.
Lin was saying that as long as you had a real reason to believe what you are saying is true then your fine. And we all know those machines are shady as fuck.
No in the impeachment hearings. Cant wait forever for this.
I hope Lin defends Rudy and Powell.
and the judge gets to see it before the trial
and dismiss if he wants
not holding my breath
So what. Media wont cover it and blackmailed judges will rule against him.
That's what Trump's Twitter suspension was for. "Media" covering it or not might not even matter then.
Yes, thank you! You can't be reminded enough of that. People in the back offices could change votes with a single click. That alone should throw the whole thing out.
I want part of the lawsuit. I donated a bunch of money to trump and they caused me losses. Tjey owe me.
You are a pedophile.