Jet engine (for passenger planes) hoax discussion
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Had to quit reading after your first sentence. I used to work at LIT, refueling aircraft. I can assure you they definitely burn jet fuel.
So you are happy that the wings can hold the weight of the entire plane but they are not strong enough to hold the fuel. Do I have that right?
This is what happens if you let the chemtrail chrazies get their foot in the door.
It's barely half a morning later and we now have "jumbo jets run on compressed air."
Seriously?
No.
This is obvious poison-the-well idiocy.
Don‘t engage, this reeks troll.
This is a little far fetched.
For one the fuel tanks on the wings are compartmentalized. So thats why the fuel does not slosh around as much as you think.
also jet fuel cost is currently at 1.40 per gallon.
Also jet turbines have a pretty self contained oil system.
but here is an example of a oil leak:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/9783204/hawaiian-airlines-passengers-smoke-cabin/#:~:text=Hawaiian%20Airlines%20Flight%2047%2C%20an,when%20an%20emergency%20was%20declared.&text=Due%20to%20the%20failed%20seal,to%20smoke%20in%20the%20cabin.
I used to fly a cessna 172. I can assure you that the wings hold fuel and it would not rip off the wings. I can tell you from personal experience that I have put fuel into the top of the wings and drawn it out of the bottom of the wings during my preflight.
As for the liquid dynamics during flight, there are a lot of factors to take into account, like fuel tank pressurization, ambient pressure, gravitational pull, centrifugal force, etc. I'm not a physicist, so I'm not sure how all that works, but I will say that liquid redistribution is not a factor I had to account for while flying.
This has nothing to do with Q.....and it is just wrong.
Yeah....funny my best friend is an airline pilot for 20 years...he must be CIA.
Keep sniffing glue fren.
You are unhinged....yes, he knows how an engine works.... The concepts of lift and drag have not been kept under wraps....you are on drugs.
And propulsion is no secret either genius.....me262, mig19, sabre.....you know nothing of jet propulsion....yet you want to spread BS theories...
Straw man? You said: “ The knowledge of how passenger aircraft really fly is kept under wraps, of course.”
Lmao....I was telling you, you are full of it.
My guess is that OP has another post explaining how Biden was actually elected fairly.
Air compressor to spin the engines? That's absolutely retarded. A compressor would have to be massive to produce the volume of air necessary to maintain a turbofan engine's RPM's. It is the turbofan engine spinning that produces, via generators, the power for the aircraft's systems as well as the propulsion to keep it airborne.
Can't believe I'm even responding to this nonsense, but aviation is a massive part of my life.
You're referring to bleed air to start a jet engine off of the bleed air from another already running engine, or the use of a huffer cart to start the first. That too is a small jet engine whose sole purpose is to provide bleed air to start a larger engine. It's just physics.
But most aircraft utilize an APU (auxiliary power unit) that is hydraulically driven to get started, then its bleed air used to start the first of two or more aircraft engines. The APU also provides power during preflight or maintenance.
Logic is missing from your argument. You watched YouTube to become a jet expert.
APU doesn't run on air at all. There is no air line that feeds an APU and its only "air" line is a bleed air out.
You know nothing about jets but pretend the Internet taught you all you need to know. Until you have tools in hand and years of experience over those who know for real, you're just making up falsehoods that serve nothing but your imagination.
Look at my posts. I'm paid nothing and expose fake shit or bullshit all the time. You're the one here pimping sever misinformation which seems to have no purpose at all. I'm just calling out your bullshit.
You actually know nothing about my maintenance experience on jets. Small fighters and very large militarized commercial versions. Same concepts, different sizes.
Where are the fuel leaks? Which tanks? Fuselage tanks or wing tanks? They happen all the time. Who would record a small fuel leak on a commercial airliner? Why would it matter?
What secrecy? You can literally go to school to learn all you want about aircraft and become an aviation engineer. There are thousands of aircraft engineers, mechanical systems engineers, avionics engineers. That you don't know any personally just tells me how little you know. I work with people like that all the time. I've been around aviation in and out of the military since the 80s. You? Not so much. And I've been on small planes all the way up to airliner sized aircraft. First hand experience.
I'm just sick of arguing with someone without the skills to find truth and an unwillingness to understand first hand experience versus YouTube conspiracies.
It's a jet, not a mystery.
The fan spins because it is connected via a shaft to the final stage of the turbine at the other end of the engine.
So, instead of using jet thrust, that is mostly absorbed by the final turbine stage and fed to the fan which then provides about 75% of the thrust. That allows them to be not only quieter but more fuel efficient.
My friend is an airport fireman, he’s had to clean jet fuel spills.
One would have to know nothing about aviation to believe this post. Having fueled both military and civilian aircraft, there is more to the fuel system than the wings. For example, on a Boeing 707, the center tank within the fuselage is the largest of all tanks in the aircraft. Wing tanks also carry fuel, but significantly lower volumes than internal tanks within the fuselage.
Fuel is also part of the center-of-gravity measurement for how an aircraft is loaded to maintain "balance" both on ground and airborne. There are limits to all things and fuel is critical to aircraft movement on ground, especially its distribution within the aircrafts different tanks.
This post is bunk.
You must be completely unaware that EVERY tank on EVERY military aircraft is used to take fuel samples every day. The fuel is analyzed for contaminants, but most importantly checked for water because it can foul an engine's ability to perform. Real fuel ran down my real arms when I drained a quart of real fuel into a real jar for every real fuel tank.
I have also been internal to an aircraft's fuel cell and sopped up remaining fuel with real rags and used real fans to dry/evaporate the tank for maintenance to fix a real leak.
I have also witnessed a fuel dump on the ground where the wing fuel dump was activated inadvertently creating a massive real fuel spill.
My experience is first hand, direct maintenance over more than 10 years of time. Yours?
As a ballpark figure, a 747 can take 100 tons of fuel and fly for 10 hours on it.
And by the way, the wings hold up the entire plane, complete with all passengers and luggage, not just the fuel.
Sorry, my rule-of-thumb forgot the other thumb. It's been a while.