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There's something bugging me: Why did Trump support the vaccine?
posted 5 years ago by TripleBlack 5 years ago by TripleBlack +43 / -0

I just read about project FUNVAX that developed a mRSA vaccine intended to suppress the VMAT2 gene.

Trump had to know about this, so why would he support it? Why would he push the vaccine so hard?

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– TripleBlack [S] 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

Vaccines are like Jews you are not allowed to question them without losing everything including your life.

That's the truth!! I found out when I had a reaction to a tDAP vaccine. Lost the use of my right arm for 6 months. Five years later and it's 80% back.

Not one doctor I found would even entertain the thought my issue could be related to the vaccine. People all around me shunned me for suggesting it could be.

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– jojoQ1 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

you are wrong... there has never been a successful CV vax that didn't cause all kinds of problems.

the licensing and testing for something like this can take 2-3 years or much more.

there was no need to jump all the legal hoops and basically roll out something that has had no animal testing and no challenge trials.

they skipped everything - that is totally wrong - that was easy to avoid !

you now have a good 50M ppl that are on a medical trial - that should have been limited to a few hundred thousand this year. next year get the real data and do the animal trials also and let's see...

they jumped everything and it's turned into a co-ercion for a vaccine passport.

in the US for now it's more mellow, but go read some British, AU, NZ and Canadian news....

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– daveywavey86 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

lets all take note of this mans comment. as of 9:04pm PST, this comment is sitting at +39 / -0. let that sink in. its not often that the ratio swings THAT far to one side considering what was just dropped here.

ask yourself a question: why is it that free thought is discouraged nowadays? why is it that every other religion under the sun can be criticized but as soon as you say the "J" word, your life is ruined?

look at MTG, she didnt even say the word, and SNL took her completely out of context and labeled her an anti-semite. her career is basically over at this point. if they'll do it to her, whats to stop them from doing it to you or me? all she did was point out CA gov Brown's statement that they "would not let PGE fail", then she mentioned that gov Brown had donated money to certain groups.

listen to the no agenda podcast, WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!

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– PapaPepe 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

You saw what they did with Hydroxy. Now imagine if he told people not to take the vaccine

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– jojoQ1 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

there has never been a succesful CV vax. NEVER

all dangerous with a 10-20% kill rate - it's called a challenge study when you vaccinate and then the person or animal is given the live virus. they jumped all of that....

challenge studies for CV vaxes have been a disaster in the past.

it was easily to delay it - with 1 hour on google you can learn all this yourself

OK - you wanna roll out a vax - show me the challenge studies.... simple as that...

it could have easily been delayed 12 to 18 months.

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– PapaPepe 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

The entirety of corona is a fabrication for the dems to win 2020. By mail in voting, destroying Trump's economy and shutting down churches, bars and small businesses. It solidified the dems power and increased compliance. It's everything they could have ever dreamed for. It's about optics. If Trump didn't do that they'd make it even more about how he personally killed all of those people.

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– DRQ- 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

It's a depopuation weapon. Lethal in the ferret studies.

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– CorvetteZ06ish 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0

Trump had no choice. All optics. If he came out and called it a fake virus, the media would have buried him and he would never have gained public support. Thus no great awakening.

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– jojoQ1 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

that's BS - he just needed to fire fauci and GTFOWI - why didn't he ?

he went limp on this..... Scott Atlas was kinda brough on board but he said himself, I can't get rid of Fauci - Fauci is nearly 80 - WTF was problem with firing the c##t ?

he was president - he can fire someone in that position.

Pence rolled in all the spooks, Brix and the CDC clowns and just a ménage of characters that look like they came from Arkham Asylum in a Gotham movie.

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– ThomasMaker 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

The human mind always want things to be simple, black or white.

The reality may be like that on the pixel level but when you stand back those black and whites will invariably make some shade of grey...

The thing is you have to pick and choose where you put the clear-cut white to actually surround and improve the darker areas and lighten the overall picture.

Every action effects other people actions, doing one thing, will result in them doing another, that shit tend to domino and to mix metaphors if you don't play your pieces right you lose the board.

We are genuinely talking about multi-dimensional chess here and if you try 2D(black or white) tactics on something that has many more dimensions, you will loose...

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– ThomasMaker 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

No!

My comment might unintentionally have had that very effect though...

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– CorvetteZ06ish 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

And here we are. Now the truth is being exposed. Wouldn’t have otherwise

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– MAGA_100X 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Trump had no choice. All optics.

But now, he could come against it?

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– CorvetteZ06ish 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Make your own determination. That was my thought of the situation.

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– ThinkBeforeYouTalk 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

No one has this answer. I don't think anyone can say he doesn't know the potential dangers.

In his defense he did a very poor job of rolling out the vaccine, which the media is making out to be a bad thing, but in reality it is a good thing.

The people who did decide to get it are nothing more than sheep. These are probably the same people who base their decisions on whatever big tech/MSM tells them, so it is hard to really feel sorry for them. You can't save everyone.

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– hundro 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

This is the only explanation that makes any sense to me. Your last short sentence is brutally honest.

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– 5547 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Actually he never did push it very hard just made it fast and available for the lost cause sheeple. He always said therapeutics worked and pushed those even with all the negative push back from msm and the demonrats

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– 420-Trump-2020 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Cause he knew the retarded liberals would take it and the patriots wouldn't. Easy way to eliminate thy enemy with their own sword.

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– pearlrevolver 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Oh wow, didn't think of it that way :0

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– CheshireCatsTail 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

When he first started talking about vaccines he said that some would want it and others not and there would be other therapies available or something to that effect

He said years ago he believed vaccines caused autism so then saying operation warp speed and getting the vaccines out fast is something I could never understand myself

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– jojoQ1 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

yeah but all the airlines are starting up vaccine passports now

so sure you don't have to get it - but once the borders are closed, how long until you need your vaccine passport to get on a train ? get on a bus ? buy gas ? charge your tesla car ? goto the bank or super market, login to amazon

you don't need those things.....

it's your choice

corporations can mandate whatever they want... if MCDonalds tells you to wear a silly brown hat you gotta wear one, if they tell you to get a vax passport code to come to work you gotta get one....

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– charlesufarley 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

The harder he pushes the harder the ds pushes back. It didn’t matter what he said or did the vaccine was coming when the vaccine was coming. I think he knows he’ll be back in power to make sure the poison is only for those who want it. No mandatory anything when he’s back.

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– jojoQ1 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

not so simple as that

a,) the vax kills people from bad reactions

b.) it kills them from long term side effects

c.,) there is a problem called pathogenic priming esp. in CV vaxes - all have failed with an 80% immunity and 10-20% kill rate - that's why there's no cold vax.

d.) leaky vaccines can breed worse viruses until everyone needs to have a shot - this has already happened with chickens. - see my link in the other comment.

There's lots and lots of problems here and Trump called it a medical miracle.

e.) People are being basically forced to have it or lose your job - in a time of economic crisis - WTF are they gonna do ?

f.) It was quite easily to hang up the regulation of it for 6-12 months, but instead it was warp speed - if Trump is a true white hat and has this Q team - WTF were they thinking of ? delay it 6 months and save the nightmare.

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– pearlrevolver 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Good questions!

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– Pacrosby 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

He made it possible for people to get what they imsisted they wanted/needed to get back to some semblance of normalcy. He's not a medical doctor though. He didn't create it. And he's never told people they "should" get it.

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– Kelcius 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Trump said there was going to be no have and have nots when it comes to the vaccine the military was going to distribute it guess what I don't think he was talking about a physical vaccine I think it was talking about the truth everybody's going to know the truth everybody's going to be vaccinated against the lies the Democrats that's what I think

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– Kelcius 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

More than likely

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– jojoQ1 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Well it is a problem and it's clearly killing old people - not that they pbly have much time left on the clock anyways - so that's one good thing at least for the time being it's all over 60s....

The news is starting to break that it's pretty much garbage and well maybe people will learn a lesson.

The problem is that there is this :

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/leaky-vaccines-can-produce-stronger-versions-of-viruses-072715

Leaky Vaccines are a totally liability and they already admitted it's 100% leaky.

And that's before we discuss a second possible pandemic next winter as the vax'd with pathogenic priming causes people to starting dying like flies from a nose cold....

that's if they haven't bred a worse strain via the leaky vaccine story above.... which will be the war cry to total vaccination of everyone without fail - checks and IDs and Vax IDs - the whole fkg circus. Blame the non vax'd and get everyone vax'd - that's what has happened in chickens now.... if they don't have the leaky vax they all die - cos it doesn't stop the virus - actually it makes it worse unless you have the shot - that sounds like a great business model to me ! - and door wide open to the 666 mark of the beast.

Roll that into a digital biometric ID, Digital Wallet, Social Credit Score, App in your phone - but that will be easier on a chip - or the hand stamp vax - luciferase hand stamp QR code .... it's dark evil nasty tech..... all possible too....

There's never been a sars or cold or corona virus vaccine that didn't cause 10-20% of animals to have terrible over reactions to the live virus later on. The challenge studies on the Govt website were awful.

It was all cancelled and google freely admitted this on a search until Sept 2020 when it was all changed to say there "wasn't much interest in a sars 1 vax and funding died off" - which is total BS - they spent 10 years and millions on it and got no where.

There are two possible endgames here where the vax produces a total disaster - with or without Trump and Trump is only the US - the vaccine passports in the EU and Asia, AU, NZ, Canada are being furiously rolled out.

Maybe the virus dies out and the vax is shown to be crap and the vax'd start dying next winter badly and the whole truth comes out... and we learn a valuable lesson.

But now you have to believe that Gates, Fauci, big pharma CEOs and a whole ilk of vile swampers not part of DC will also be rounded up.

It's pushing the envelope somewhat I'd say....

Looking at different scenarios and the massive push to vax entire nations, I'd say that it looks pretty dire.

These things could have easily been delayed in regulation and trials for another year or so.

Why weren't they ?

It's not good enough to say the DS pushed so hard - the vax was coming anyways - Fkg push back - the whole Q thing is supposed to be all about that but here we have a massive dark take over with big pharma black medicine basically being pushed onto everyone - and with several possible outcomes - backed by science that could create pandemic 2.0 on a scale that will have mandatory shots and military check points and the whole fkg bit !!!!!!

The election fraud pales into insignificance when you look around the world and see how countries are behaving.

The other scenarios are that the virus dies off, and the vax passport thing doesn't really wash cos there's too many bad reactions and problems and it all quietly goes away... it's possible.... .

A second one is Trump comes back in and the whole social mood changes and enough people refuse it and the virus dies down and we move along...

A third one is the whole massive exposure of the whole scam... could be i suppose, but it's really a stretch.

Trump didn't just roll it out - he called it a medical miracle - he staked a part of his successes on this fkg warp speed rollout.... it doesn't look good at all.... how can he come back in and say that was all a mistake or "part of the plan" - sorry your grandpa is dead cos of my rushed vaxes - ops !

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– Gods_plan_trumps_all 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Love Trump and what he stands for without a question. However I won't rule out the possibility that what we have is not good vs. evil, but rather bad vs. evil. It's possible we have a power struggle here on earth, where both powers serve the same master.

I know both want a rebirth or reset. Both want a new monetary system. A new world order could be argued is both of their agendas.

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– gigabump 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Negotiations. If you don't think they could have put a seriously real virus out there that could have killed hundreds of millions - you're fooling yourself. Trump said he was going to expose it all ... in my opinion ... he totally did. Almost every facet. How many people on this site found God over this? Many who were never awakened to what's going on found God as well ... I know of four normies in my circle who found God over the last 6 years that laugh at the truth. BUT - they found God. This is and has been so much more than arresting the evil ones. It's been about finding God and Jesus Christ. You need to realize that us finding God pisses off the cabal more than them being arrested or even put to death.

They failed their master. They failed in the worst way imaginable. Now - they're just as scared of their master as they are of God. They totally fucked up.

People are finding Christ. God wins, God won ... it's been amazing.

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– 5547 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I also think the fake corrupt criminal biden gang is using gates/fauci Vax not Trumps. They took Trumps but not giving it to the sheeple

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– ecomwel2021 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

The vaccine is working through natural selection. All the lib friends I know from blue states are jumping all over themselves to "cut in line" to get the vaccine. people in their 30's and 40's. It's insanity. All for a virust that in their age group kills less than the flu. All for a vaccine that does not prevent covid according to fauci. All for a vaccine that has no dead virus (how is it supposed to identify it?). All for a vaccine that alters your dna. All for a vaccine that will need to be taken twice a year forever. Let these libs have the 300 mm doses. I will wait for sanity to return and for the people responsible to be charged with crimes against humanity: gates, fauchi, schwab, dnc.....

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– Sugartree2 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I don’t remember Trump or any of his children going on live TV and getting the vaccine. I wish there had been more attention to the Fauci jab. He gets the shot in one arm, then goes on TV the next day or so rubbing the opposite arm, saying it was a bit sore.

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– ThomasMaker 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Picking your battles, the shitstorm of not 'sorta' working for the vaccine would get in the way, it's an unfortunate reality of having to pick the lesser evil.

And all he has said about the vaccine has been somewhat ambiguous, all about rolling it out, making it, making it available, but never in any way telling people to take it(even saying that people may choose to not take it..) or in clear text saying it was a good thing beyond some typical Trump-ism's about 'we have the best vaccine' and what not.....

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– Infidel440 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I’ve had trouble with this as well. It’s poison and the nasal test itself has nano particles that have magnets and gps

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– subaru 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

he didn't - he gave them money to produce hyrdo cloroquine (Sp?) and they decided to say that was bad for us and used the money for the vaccine

I heard Operation Warp Speed ??? was to harm our military - and they want to charge them with crimes against humanity? then they needed the vaccine they were going to give them to see what was in it to go forward (needed the vaccine to prove)

we shall see- but he always said - it will be available for those that want it (not mandate that all military take it)

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– 10122046 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

He made his secret service guards get the “vaccine.” Maybe it wasn’t really “the vaccine.”

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– jojoQ1 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

upto 12M now had the shot in the UK - that's 20% of the entire pop.

14-15M in the EU

I think 30M in the US had the first shot

there's so much room for disaster in this dark medicine. - see my other comments.

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– killerbunny88 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Trump was in an impossible position.

My prayer is that when all of this is exposed, the COVID crap will be part of it. I don't know. That's all I've got. It bothers me, too, and I'm sure my brother and sister will be taking it even though I shared my concerns with both of them.

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– jojoQ1 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

no he wasn't - there's never been a CV vax that didn't cause terrible pblms.

Fauci is nearly 80ys old - fire the C##t.

delay the regulations - order it to be strict - strict animal tests - order it as fast as possible sure - the speed is not the issue - the tests were BS - there were no animal studies - no challenge studies and you don't even need vaxes for most of the pop.

instead they signed contracts around the world for billions of doses, some countries have ordered enough to vax their entire pop. 2-3 times over WTF is this ?

rolled it out before the trials were even 1/2 finished so now you basically have millions of people joining what is pbly the most stupid medical experiment in human histroy - and being heavily coerced. Not so bad in the US - but everywhere else has gone batshit with it. Look at the UK !!! AU, NZ, Canada.

vaccine passports for a disease that kills 0.03% ? WTF ?

the whole thing stinks if you ask me.... .

even if Trump comes back in - he's touted it as a life time achievement of his first term a MEDICAL MIRACLE.

OK - he didn't produce it himself, but it was his leadership, his big claims to success with it

He can't dial back on that very easily without losing credibility.

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– LiberalTearFiend 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I think that this vaccine is relatively tame, I am much more concerned about the vaccines to come when they start issuing out the Microneedling patches to deliver them

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– daveywavey86 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

riddle me this: every virus on earth that we have a vaccine for contains dead/dormant virus in which our bodies acknowledges, fights, and builds a tolerance to. our immune systems create a memory to remember the pathogens and to destroy them if you contract it again.

covid-19 was never isolated in a lab. how can you create a vaccine to a virus, if you dont have dead/dormant virus particles because you were never able to isolate the goddamn virus....

links: #1 #2

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– Enjoytheshowww 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

How confident are we that the "harm" these vaccines created isnt just msm created propaganda to make trump look bad?

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– daveywavey86 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

here's my theory:

DJT knew that he basically had to "play ball" RE covid, so he initially pushed HCQ, azithromycin w/zinc, etc.. to get people like us with working brains to look into it. DJT knows his supporters arent fucking retards and would do some research. DJT also knows when to cut his losses, so he acknowledged the vaccine to please the retards in society,

fast forward a few months, covid vaccine is obviously bunk to anyone with half a brain (look no further than all the retards lined up for blocks like cattle to get their jab. the same people who will put on their mask in between bites when they go out to eat).

DJT knows around summer/fall that anyone that takes this vaccine is probably going to have horrendous health issues due to it being rushed through FDA approval and testing, so he doesnt stress this. DJT knows that 90% of his base arent going to take this goddamned vaccine, so he sleeps easy at night knowing that in 4 years or less, all these lefty freaks are going to be suffering from a litany of health issues resulting from the jab (which they will also blame on trump, mind you)

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– Despitetospite 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

1: IF vaccine was good, Trump looks good, IF not, Trumpism (the part about being skeptical of everything even if it is repeating by everyone in power, it isn't "settled") is vindicated with no fault of Trump, since he likely doesn't know if this vaccine is bad

2: We have clips of leftists including Kamala saying vaccine will be bad since Trump endorsed it, which kills a potential "anti vax is to blame for more lockdowns" (I saw an article where Fauci claimed getting 90% vaccinated as quickly as possible will prevent future "mutations", so the "q anon followers caused indefinite lockdowns and covid 21" is being primed.

Most vocal anti vaxxers seem to be black, for the reasons Kamala mentioned, but also them giving it to "POC" first.

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